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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:07 am 
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Tillerson is out at Sec of State. He will be replaced by Mike Pompeo, currently CIA head. Gina Haspel will become acting head of the CIA.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/13/politics ... index.html

The timing of this is interesting. Tillerson was about the only one in the admin to mention and condemn the Russians by name, with regard to the nerve agent attack in the UK.

He also contradicted what Trump said on North Korea, and we know how Trump doesn't like that.

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Hmmmm. Same day.

Trump's personal assistant John McEntee fired from role: report
http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat ... ole-report

President Trump's personal assistant was fired Monday, The Wall Street Journal reported.

John McEntee on Monday was escorted out of the White House, according to two senior administration officials.

He was escorted from the White House because of an "unspecified security issue," the Journal reported, citing a third White House official.

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According to the Journal, he was not allowed to gather his belongings before being escorted out of the White House.

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That last part is a bit odd, no? My guess: he was a leaker. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Tillerson Out
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Can anybody argue that the only criteria for retention in a Trump organization is Trump's neurotic perception of loyalty?

Not that Tillerson was particularly qualified to be Sec of State or particularly interested in organizing and setting up a functioning State Department...but it's increasingly obvious that the Trump organization becomes increasingly incompetent, day by day.

PS - the DeVos interview with Leslie Stahl is just one more piece of evidence of this. DeVos is a mouthpiece, and not even a competent mouthpiece.

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I never thought DeVos was competent; her interview with Leslie Stahl just showed a lot of people (including me) what we knew already.

She barely knows anything about education, and can't even really defend her pet project of charter schools and vouchers, because she doesn't really know any facts about them, just that they make her family money.

When she came to Parkland, she refused to talk to any students except three "hand picked" student journalists, who, I'm guessing, she knew wouldn't ask her any tough questions.

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 Post subject: Re: Tillerson Out
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The Devos blew up in her face. She clearly has no clue about Public Education.

45 continually under cut Tillerson, who should have gotten the job in the first place.

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 Post subject: Re: Tillerson Out
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OK...I'll admit it. I had Limbaugh on the radio this morning to see how he would spin this. Pretty much straight out of Trump's brief comment to the reporters this morning..."I'm getting really close to having the cabinet I want."

So Limbaugh says it's not that Trump is out of control, and can't manage the job, and that the administration is in shambles. It's because Trump has decided he wants "Trump people" in the jobs.

So they are admitting...the cabinet will, at some point, be filled with incompetent dimwits who meet Trump's emotionally ill loyalty criteria.

This is actually getting to be exceedingly dangerous.

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OK...I'll admit it. I had Limbaugh on the radio this morning to see how he would spin this. Pretty much straight out of Trump's brief comment to the reporters this morning..."I'm getting really close to having the cabinet I want."

So Limbaugh says it's not that Trump is out of control, and can't manage the job, and that the administration is in shambles. It's because Trump has decided he wants "Trump people" in the jobs.

So they are admitting...the cabinet will, at some point, be filled with incompetent dimwits who meet Trump's emotionally ill loyalty criteria.

This is actually getting to be exceedingly dangerous.

What Limbaugh and the Trump supporters don't mention is Trump said he hires only the best people. So if Trump says "I'm getting really close to having the cabinet I want" an admission that he doesn't hire only the best people?

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 Post subject: Re: Tillerson Out
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What happened to Tillerson being Putin's pick for SECSTATE? He'd made the huge oil deal with Rosneft and everything. They'd passed over Rmoney because Russia wanted their boy in Hillary's old job.

Chaos reigns. Chaos is their friend, and if we play our cards right (a big if), it is also our friend.

Soon Rachel Maddow's Wall (where she puts the names of everyone who's gone bye bye) will be so large that it could block off the Mexican border and keep the rapists out.

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OK...I'll admit it. I had Limbaugh on the radio this morning to see how he would spin this. Pretty much straight out of Trump's brief comment to the reporters this morning..."I'm getting really close to having the cabinet I want."


Uhhhh .... even if Pence picked them for him, or somebody else, it was supposed to be his decision in the first place ... buck stops here, and all that.

So that is a very weird statement. It kinda means he has no idea what he wants. But we sorta knew that already.

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Wow. The hits continue. Looks like this guy is gone for ... well, contradicting the official narrative.

Top Tillerson aide fired after contradicting White House account of firing
http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat ... -of-ouster

The White House has reportedly fired an aide at the State Department who contradicted the White House account of President Trump's firing of Secretary of State Rex Tillerson.

The Associated Press first reported the firing of Under Secretary of State Steve Goldstein, citing officials.

The firing was reportedly prompted by a statement from Goldstein on Tuesday, responding to Tillerson's firing, in which Goldstein said Tillerson did not speak with Trump before his firing and is "unaware" of the reason behind his dismissal.

The statement strongly suggested that Tillerson found out about his firing from Twitter — though it differs from published accounts of the decision that cited unnamed White House sources.

Goldstein also said Tillerson had "every intention of staying" before his firing.

Goldstein's account differed from the one a White House official told The Hill. In the White House official's version, White House chief of staff John Kelly told Tillerson on Friday that Trump would fire him.

Trump said Tuesday he made the decision to oust Tillerson on his own and that Tillerson would be "much happier now."

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Wow. The news keeps coming.

The CIA's new chief, Gina Haspel (is she the first female CIA head? I believe so) was accused of running a secret torture site.

They are saying McEntee was fired over "financial crimes". Sounds pretty serious. What would those be, exactly? ;) And, since it sounds that way, why did they announce he was leaving the WH (without any belongings!) but joining the campaign?

The official story of Tillerson's firing seems to be unraveling.

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 Post subject: Re: Tillerson Out
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Trump says he and Pompeo are always on the same wave length....Wow...Isn't that fucking special. :roll:

Seems to me the same old mindset of armchair warriors are finally making a huge move.

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Trump says he and Pompeo are always on the same wave length....Wow...Isn't that fucking special. :roll:

Seems to me the same old mindset of armchair warriors are finally making a huge move.


And even that can't possibly be true. As much as I detest that stupid bigot Pompeo, he is in agreement with the intel heads about Russian government interference in the election. He's already a yes-man, that much is clear. So I'm waiting to see 1- how long this one lasts and 2- how long it takes for this Koch dumb bigot to fall one million percent completely in line with Donald Trump. :problem:

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Trump says he and Pompeo are always on the same wave length....Wow...Isn't that fucking special. :roll:

Seems to me the same old mindset of armchair warriors are finally making a huge move.

So the question that remains unanswered is if Pompeo and Trump are on the same wave length does Pompeo have picture of Trump like Storm Daniels has?

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But, but, but, I thought Trump had all the best people. He told us so himself.

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Seems to me the same old mindset of armchair warriors are finally making a huge move.


Funny you should say that.

Trump floats the idea of creating a 'Space Force' to fight wars in space
President Donald Trump floated the idea of developing another service branch, the Space Force.
Trump said the idea started as a joke, but then he decided it was "a great idea."
"Space is a war-fighting domain, just like the land, air, and sea," said the president.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/13/trump-f ... space.html

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But, but, but, I thought Trump had all the best people. He told us so himself.

Remember, he promised to drain the swamp but all he's done is to restock it with a new breed of vermin.

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Funny you should say that.

Trump floats the idea of creating a 'Space Force' to fight wars in space
President Donald Trump floated the idea of developing another service branch, the Space Force.
Trump said the idea started as a joke, but then he decided it was "a great idea."
"Space is a war-fighting domain, just like the land, air, and sea," said the president.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/13/trump-f ... space.html

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Who wants to join the Space Cadets?
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I'll be bone-spurs Trump will claim to be an honorary member of Star Fleet Academy.

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 Post subject: Re: Tillerson Out
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I believe Haspel did more than run the site, I believe it has been reported she destroyed evidence of the crimes. She is a perfect fit for Trump. A person whose does what she is told, does not care about laws, lacks moral clarity, and will destroy evidence of wronf doing.

What is more disturbing is her stellar reviews by co-workers at the CIA.


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Funny you should say that.

Trump floats the idea of creating a 'Space Force' to fight wars in space
President Donald Trump floated the idea of developing another service branch, the Space Force.
Trump said the idea started as a joke, but then he decided it was "a great idea."
"Space is a war-fighting domain, just like the land, air, and sea," said the president.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/13/trump-f ... space.html

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maybe to distract from this

Gina Haspel, nominated by Trump as first woman to lead CIA, has controversial past

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...........Christopher Anders, deputy director of the American Civil Liberties Union’s Washington legislative office, called Haspel the “central figure in one of the most illegal and shameful chapters in modern American history.”

“She was up to her eyeballs in torture, both in running a secret torture prison in Thailand and carrying out an order to cover up torture crimes by destroying videotapes,” Anders said. “One man held at the secret prison she ran was waterboarded 83 times, slammed against walls, sleep-deprived and locked in a coffin-like box. After she was promoted to a position back at CIA headquarters, she worked to destroy evidence of the torture crimes committed at the prison she ran.”...........

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 Post subject: Re: Tillerson Out
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Yeah, on any ordinary day without so much else going on, the Haspel story would be pretty big in itself. Donald seems to like torture, coverups, black sites, and secrecy, so she should fit right in.

Still, the other thing that got drowned out was the McEntee story. So bizarre. Generally, in the business world, if they escort you out without even being allowed to collect your belongings, it means you were fired "with prejudice". Not just let go. They also say he was guilty of unspecified "financial crimes". Embezzlement? But then, of course, the next logical thing is to escort him out of the WH, then put him on the 2020 re-election campaign. :roll:

Well, they're gonna need their crooks, I suppose.

Veddy strange.

Oh, and one more thing -- moving in to Goldstein's position is somebody from Fox & Friends ... at least now Donald doesn't need to watch her on TV for advice, she's right there at State Dept. :roll:

Trump installs former ‘Fox and Friends’ host as under secretary of state
Heather Nauert will replace Steve Goldstein, who contradicted the White House's account of Tillerson's firing.
https://thinkprogress.org/trump-state-d ... 281554ef5/

That's right ... her massive foreign policy/diplomatic experience comes from being on Faux & Friends. :roll:

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Started hearing rumors of this last night....This is from 5 days ago....

Sources said that the first officials to go will be Chief of Staff John Kelly and National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster, both of whom Trump has clashed with for months. On Tuesday, Trump met with John Bolton in the Oval Office. When he plans to visit Mar-a-Lago next weekend, Trump is expected to interview more candidates for both positions, according to two sources. “He’s going for a clean slate,” one source said. Cohn had been lobbying to replace Kelly as chief, two sources said, and quit when he didn’t get the job. “Trump laughed at Gary when he brought it up,” one outside adviser to the White House said. (The White House declined to comment.)
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/03 ... lean-reset


There's that name again. Fucking Bolton.

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Started hearing rumors of this last night....This is from 5 days ago....

Sources said that the first officials to go will be Chief of Staff John Kelly and National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster, both of whom Trump has clashed with for months. On Tuesday, Trump met with John Bolton in the Oval Office. When he plans to visit Mar-a-Lago next weekend, Trump is expected to interview more candidates for both positions, according to two sources. “He’s going for a clean slate,” one source said. Cohn had been lobbying to replace Kelly as chief, two sources said, and quit when he didn’t get the job. “Trump laughed at Gary when he brought it up,” one outside adviser to the White House said. (The White House declined to comment.)
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/03 ... lean-reset


There's that name again. Fucking Bolton.

Fucking Bolton is right. That asshat won’t be happy until we declare war on Iran, NK and anybody else his blood-fevered brain can think of.

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Bolton in would be a good signal for peace groups out. Out in the street, that is. He never met a first strike he didn't like.

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Well, for fuck sake. It just does not bode well if Trump has the Bolton crowd kissing his lily white ass. #$&**@^%###!!!

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Well at least Rex made out big on his liquidation. Sold all the Exxon stock at the top of the market, tax deferred, into a Blind Trust that I'm sure has been nicely balanced.


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