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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:58 am 
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Bernie Sanders to announce plan to guarantee every American a job

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Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) will announce a plan for the federal government to guarantee a job paying $15 an hour and health-care benefits to every American worker “who wants or needs one,” embracing the kind of large-scale government works project that Democrats have shied away from in recent decades.

Sanders's jobs guarantee would fund hundreds of projects throughout the United States aimed at addressing priorities such as infrastructure, care giving, the environment, education and other goals. Under the job guarantee, every American would be entitled to a job under one of these projects or receive job training to be able to do so, according to an early draft of the proposal.

A representative from Sanders's office said they had not yet done a cost estimate for the plan or decided how it would be funded, saying they were still crafting the proposal.


Sounds wonderful. :roll: FDR did it. But FDR did it as a temporary measure to get us out of the great depression. We have low unemployment right now.




The Soviets did it. It eventually became a measure which did not allow anyone to be unemployed, or self employed.

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Working conditions for a Soviet worker changed over time; for instance, at the beginning of the Communist regime the government pursued a policy of worker participation at the enterprise level. During Joseph Stalin's crash-industrialization drive, workers lost their right to participate in the functioning of the enterprise, and their working conditions deteriorated. In 1940, for example, a decree was promulgated and became law stating that a worker could be arrested if he had three accumulated absences, late arrivals or changed jobs without the official authorization.

Shock work, which meant that workers had to work past regular hours, was introduced alongside central planning. During World War II the pressure on workers increased and it was expected of them to take on Herculean efforts in their work. In the post-war years conditions did not improve but in fact worsened in some cases. For instance, small theft became illegal; this had been allowed for several years to compensate for workers' low salaries. The situation for the common worker improved during the post-Stalin years, and some of the worst measures approved by the Stalin regime to improve worker productivity were repealed. Because of the lack of a stick and carrot policy under the Brezhnev administration, worker productivity and discipline decreased during the 1970s.

Since unemployment was rendered unviable through various acts of legislation, the Soviet worker, in contrast to a Capitalist worker, was more secure economically. In return for working, a Soviet worker would get an individual return in the form of a money wage; however, during the period under the New Economic Policy, hyperinflation rendered money effectively useless, and wages sometimes occurred through bartering. Money wage in Soviet parlance was not the same as in Capitalist countries.

The money wage was set at the top of the administrative system, and it was the same administrative system which also set bonuses. Wages were 80 percent of the average Soviet workers income, with the remaining 20 coming in the form of bonuses. The Soviet wage system tried systematically to make wages more equal; for instance, the relationship between wages was termed "ITRs", a measure of comparing wages across occupations. For engineers and other technical workers ITR was 1.68 in 1955, but had decreased to 1.21 in 1977.

Social wages were also an important part of the general standard of living for an average household; it stood at 23.4 percent of income for the average Soviet worker and their family, and at 19.1 percent for the family income of collective farmers. In the period between 1971–81, the social wage grew faster than the money wage; the money wage grew by 45 percent for workers and employees and 72 for workers at collective farms. In contrast, per capita income from social wages increased by 81 percent.

Social wage took many forms; it could be improved health, education, transport or food subsidies, which was the responsibility of the state, or the improvement (or introduction) of sanitation and working facilities.


Quoted from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_working_class. Lightly edited for screen readability.




I found the article at the Washington Post. Right wing sources are running this story with enthusiasm as well. The Daily Caller didn't call him a Communist, not yet. They probably don't want to discourage him, not yet. They did have this:

http://dailycaller.com/2018/04/23/berni ... ntee-plan/

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Sanders’ proposal would divide the U.S. into 12 districts that would take work proposals from city, state, and American Indian tribal governments and then pass them to the Department of Labor for final approval, The Post reported. The team hasn’t done a cost estimate for the plan or fully worked out how the program would be funded, a spokesman for his office told The Post.

Anyone would be entitled to a job, or for job training, on one of the approved projects in their region, according to a draft of the plan. In cases where a worker fails to comply with the terms of employment, the plan suggests creating a “Division of Progress Investigation” under the Department of Labor to “take disciplinary action if needed.”


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I don't think I want to see this happen. I can see a half dozen ways it could go wrong real fast. The first one that came to mind is it would end social services programs such as welfare and assistance for the poor and disabled as we know them.


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Ideas are wonderful. Political ideas have another problem: they have to be passed by the legislature. At this is a federal idea, it would require an act of Congress.

This will pass Congress when? What Ari Melber calls the 12th of Nebruary? I'd ask for the details but as it will never pass, why bother.

Don't get me wrong. I like it, and would vote for people running on it. (I'd need those details.) Still, doesn't mean we've passed the hurdle I've just discussed.

Anyway, the one detail you brought up, Sam, is once your employer is the state, the state is now in charge of disciplining you for work-related issues (failure to show up, etc.), and that has been thorny in recent human history. Sometimes you get disciplined for political loyalty as well as actual work related issues. It's a detail I'd care about ... again if the above was not an issue.

Still, I like this in principle, because as I've noted, there's a lot of work that needs doing that isn't being done by for profit corporations, and people that need work, and government makes an excellent matchmaker. The WPA, though, was never meant to be permanent. As you say.

I certainly think the government can be doing more in terms of worker retraining, and labor support. There's also that guaranteed basic income idea. Because let's face it, there will always be people who can't work due to severe disability, age, etc., and they still need to eat, as well. Some type of "welfare" will always be needed.

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No different from any of the other plans he pitched that he knew was impossible to deliver. Sanders is the Ted Cruz of the left. Uh...Oh...I almost said "the Ted Cruz of Democrats." Bernie is only a Democrat when it's convenient.

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When Johnson was pitching his "Great Society" programs Hyman Minsky didn't back the idea of welfare. Instead he backed the idea that the federal government should be the employer of last resort. If that is what a Guaranteed Job Program is then I would back it if they drop welfare. Included in it must be job training and child care as well. Simply giving money to those who want to work doesn't actually help them in the long run. Not because of some bullshit "it causes dependency" conservative nonsense but because it is never actually enough money. It does not enough to actually help alleviate poverty. And of course the capitalist system does not either as its purpose is not creating jobs.

Money for the elderly and disabled is not the same as straight welfare. As the Professor and Sam noted there will continue to be the need for that. Right now it is Social Security which should be expanded.

And I am waiting with bated breath for Glen to see this thread and scream "See! I told you he was a socialist/communist." when that is not what this is about. But the difference will be lost on him.

Btw, Ike? The Democrats should be listening to this idea. Whether Sanders is a Democrat or not isn't really relevant. If an idea worth exploring comes from somewhere beyond the Democratic Party that doesn't mean it shouldn't be examined. And you are right, it won't pass because conservatives hate it automatically (it's in their DNA) and Democrats are afraid of anything that isn't based in the market since they have bowed to the market for the last 30+ years.

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Screw Sanders, he is simply trying to position for a possible run in 2020, which Dems will not accept.

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Btw, Ike? The Democrats should be listening to this idea. Whether Sanders is a Democrat or not isn't really relevant. If an idea worth exploring comes from somewhere beyond the Democratic Party that doesn't mean it shouldn't be examined. And you are right, it won't pass because conservatives hate it automatically (it's in their DNA) and Democrats are afraid of anything that isn't based in the market since they have bowed to the market for the last 30+ years.


I trust Bernie as far as I can throw Donald. So he's good at saying all the right things. Lot's of people are good at saying all the right things. But what he's really good at is being a grandstanding, self-promoting, schmuck.

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How much will it cost and who will pay for it. Comparisons to FDR and the WPA are totally false equivalents. Because of the different eras and economies involved

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I trust Bernie as far as I can throw Donald. So he's good at saying all the right things. Lot's of people are good at saying all the right things. But what he's really good at is being a grandstanding, self-promoting, schmuck.


We are in total agreement.

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How much will it cost and who will pay for it. Comparisons to FDR and the WPA are totally false equivalents. Because of the different eras and economies involved

Explain how. Don’t throw a bunch of words out and act like that means something.

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I trust Bernie as far as I can throw Donald. So he's good at saying all the right things. Lot's of people are good at saying all the right things. But what he's really good at is being a grandstanding, self-promoting, schmuck.

Fine. You don’t trust him. I haven’t seen many trustworthy politicians but let’s set that aside. What about the idea. Btw, I know it doesn’t stand much of a chance but that doesn’t change that imo the idea is not bad.

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I trust Bernie as far as I can throw Donald. So he's good at saying all the right things. Lot's of people are good at saying all the right things. But what he's really good at is being a grandstanding, self-promoting, schmuck.


Agreed. Ignore that poser.

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We are in total agreement.


Somebody, please...just shoot me in the fucking head.

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Sounds nice. Won't work. I could ask for details, except that I don't have to. As others before me have so well stated, it has no chance of passing in the estimated time available to the universe with conditions that support life as we know it.

Bernie is old news. He gave the Democratic Party a needed shaking up. Now it's time to move on. Less headline grabbing, more substantive use of the power granted him by the voters of his state to affect the legislative process in a beneficial way.

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The biggest problem is that it would never pass.

The brave American people who populate T.G.C.I.T.W. (The Greatest Country In The World) are scared to the point of shitting themselves over an idea like this.

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Explain how. Don’t throw a bunch of words out and act like that means something.


First FDR started the WPA as a stop gap measure and to protect our country from turning communist. Also i am pretty sure many of the WPA workers were getting not much more than room and board much less than the 60k per worker Comrade Sanders plan would cost.

As for the overall cost take the number of peoplr it would employee times 60k per and i believe even the leftiest of the left could see and understand it is a plan whose cost we coulbnt afford.

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You don't get it. Bernie knows that an asteroid the size of Luxembourg will hit the earth millions of years before anything like this ever passes Congre$$. Therefore, it is grandstanding.

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Bernie is a divider. He needs to fuck off.

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First FDR started the WPA as a stop gap measure and to protect our country from turning communist. Also i am pretty sure many of the WPA workers were getting not much more than room and board much less than the 60k per worker Comrade Sanders plan would cost.

As for the overall cost take the number of peoplr it would employee times 60k per and i believe even the leftiest of the left could see and understand it is a plan whose cost we coulbnt afford.

Different costs at different times.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Works_P ... nistration

The idea pushed by Minsky was precisely what the WPA was designed for. Just like any proposed legislation Sanders’ plan would be altered.

But that isn’t the point.

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You don't get it. Bernie knows that an asteroid the size of Luxembourg will hit the earth millions of years before anything like this ever passes Congre$$. Therefore, it is grandstanding.

Should we not talk about the idea instead of his plan which will never pass?

All we ever hear are how unemployment numbers are baked and real unemployment as well as underemployment are much higher. We hear that transfer payments are bad. So what is the alternative? The Republican plan of fuck everyone? The wimpy Democratic plan of tinkering and hoping the non-existent market fixes things because they are scared of being called communists by Glen?

The market cannot fix any damn thing. So why not at least talk about it? People want Sanders to shut up, fine. I have no problem with that. The concept itself has merit and is worthy of examination.

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The concept has too much merit to be shot down because one guy grandstands it. I'd support some kind of program where people could apply for living-wage jobs like getting junk off interstates, cleaning up after murkins leave their culture all over national parks, emptying latrines at fire camps, etc etc.. Even though glen thinks I'd probably support seizing the means of production and distribution, then nationalizing everything and assigning everyone over 18 to some job somewhere, the truth is that I wouldn't. Been tried, didn't work.


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I love topics like this one but, I don't know whether to think of it as a really good idea that has the best of intentions but would never work in the real and practical world. Or as just something some politician has tossed out there in order to keep their name on the minds of their personal base. Mind you that is not a condemnation of Sen Sanders as all elected officials from all stripes do the exact same thing. That being propose things they know won't work, will never see the light of day but, will excite those they are trying to reach.

In reality this idea sounds like something me and my friends would have come up with while smoking weed, drinking Goebel's Beer and listening to rock music in Phil Robbie's trailer at 2AM back in 1975.

First, apparently many of you have no idea about exactly how poorly paid non-skilled workers are in our country. I make 5 pick ups and 5 deliveries a week of those 10 people who are involved with the loading and unloading of my truck 8 of them are making $11 to $13 an hour. So the first thing that would need to happen is minimum wage would need to go to $15 an hour.

Even then when compared to a Gov't job holding up a shovel with 100% paid healthcare, $15 an hour not to mention it being a job you couldn't get fired from that had no drug testing. It would be very hard for the private sector to be able to compete for workers. Then of course there is the prevailing wage laws which most if not everything on Sanders' list would be up against.

Then of course there is that pesky thing called the cost. $31,000 a year + about $2,000 SSI + $18,000 healthcare + all the people you would have to hire in administration and management. It is easy to see that a conservative estimate would be $60,000 per year per employee.

We currently have about 5 million people out of work, not to mention the 40 or so million making less than what Bernie is proposing. But, lets just say there are only 5 million who would take advantage of the program. At $60,000 per that would be an yearly cost of $300 billion. Plus of course the cost of the shovels, offices and equipment.

Somehow I don't believe even the Democratic Party would be in favor of this program. As we all know there would be far more than 5 million looking for the easy money it would provide. Which brings us to another problem. Not all the jobs would be ditch digging. What do you do if a guy like me decided I wanted to catch a ride on the gravy train. I am 60 have high BP and some arthritis. Well if I get some cushy job behind a desk based on my limited physical abilities, call the lawyers as that would definitely be discrimination.

Which of course is what Bernie's politics and this program are really about. From each according to their ability, to each according to their need.

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Bernie's solution won't work. The only jobs that are guaranteed by today's corporate capitalism are in Mexico and China at slave wages. Corporations are destroying capitalism, as it's based on stealing from the poor by the rich.

The corporations destroyed capitalism once before, in 1929. It tried to do so in 2008. It's trying to do so again.

Somehow, the right thinks that it's not only fine, but just that corporations drive wages down to slavery levels. Of course, corporations have no problem with slavery, anyhow.

The greatest thing that happened to this nation was the New Deal, brought about by the greatest President, Franklin Roosevelt. It made capitalism fair for everyone, and gave working people a seat at the table.

It took generations, but the Republicans have destroyed the New Deal. And we're back where we started.


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Nah. The only people I see trying to privatize Social Security are the Republicans. Democrats continue to support the New Deal (and not just one VT independent who ran as a Dem). The Rethugs have been trying, but they haven't succeeded. Last effort was under Bush in 2006, and they failed, badly.

Most of the battles right now are over the Johnson Great Society programs - TANF, Medicare, Medicaid. Once again, the parties are not the same - Democrats have been trying to expand them, Republicans trying to curtail them. If not eliminate them.

But, since they've been around for decades, and ACA hasn't, conservatives have focused most of their reactionary rollback energy on the most recent social program. :mrgreen: Without success, though I will concede Trump is definitely using a death by a thousand cuts strategy to whittle away at it.

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Disagree, Prof. From an op/ed via HuffPo:

After the Wall Street crash of 1929 plunged the world into crisis, capitalism survived precisely by making substantial accommodations to the working class. President Franklin Delano Roosevelt created The New Deal as an antidote to the catastrophic rise of unemployment and poverty. Taxes on, and loans from, corporations and the rich enabled the state to initiate unprecedented public services ― establishing Social Security and unemployment compensation ― and large numbers of public jobs. The nation’s first minimum-wage law raised incomes for vast masses of people.

A capitalism shaken deeply by the Great Depression took these steps under heavy pressure from the Congress of Industrial Organization, a federation that militantly organized industrial labor unions, and was allied with socialists and communist parties. That large and powerful alliance forced a “trickle-up” policy on the FDR government ― direct help for the working class whose enhanced purchases trickled up as greater revenues and profits for capitalists. A relatively well-paid, secure, and largely white working class emerged.

After 1945, a resurgent capitalism rebranded this sector as a “middle class.” Capitalism’s ideologues rewrote history to claim that this middle class was achieved and created by capitalism rather than forced on it from below.

Despite the fact that the postwar boom of U.S. capitalism was based largely on accommodations made to the working class, American capitalists disliked these measures from the start. The biggest divides between liberals and conservatives in the 1940s were over whether to strengthen or dismantle the arrangements. Over time, the divide shifted to a struggle between preserving and dismantling what remained of those accommodations.

After the end of the second world war, an uneasy political equilibrium reigned. Both political parties agreed to support rising standards of middle-class jobs and real incomes. But both sides also agreed to destroy the alliance of unions, socialists, and communists that had originally pushed those standards into existence.

The alliance dissolved under the unrelenting pressure on the communists and socialists as they were demonized by the media, persecuted by the government, and transformed into the essence of “un-Americanism.” The labor movement declined more slowly, starting with the Taft-Hartley Act of 1947, which imposed crippling obligations on unions.

The unionization of the U.S. has been crumbling ever since. President Ronald Reagan’s famous suppression of striking air traffic controllers in 1981 ― he fired 11,000 controllers who had been campaigning for a wage increase ― illustrated that continuing decline. With weakened unions and an eviscerated left, the undermining of working-class conditions accelerated.

The political veneer for this was “neoliberalism.” Countless cheerleaders celebrated a capitalism freed from regulations and other restraints left over from what they saw as the bad old 1930s and 1940s. A renewed liberalism would produce wondrous economic growth for all.


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Screw Sanders, he is simply trying to position for a possible run in 2020, which Dems will not accept.


:arrow: And that is their misfortune~ I don't see Democrats coming up with any creative, well vetted, inspiring ideas! What do they have, we're not Trump and Bernie Sanders' is not a Democrat? Give me a break~!!!

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