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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:10 pm 
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These folks show what real solidarity can accomplish.

Via HuffPo:

Monie Stewart-Cariaga recently decided to leave the townhouse she’s renting to buy a new home. For a single cocktail server, she couldn’t be in a better position to do it. Beyond the fair wage and tips she earns at the Paris Las Vegas Hotel and Casino, Stewart-Cariaga plans to take advantage of a home-buying assistance program run by the Culinary Workers Union Local 226, the powerful union that represents service workers like her on the Vegas strip.

Members are eligible to receive a $20,000 loan to help with a down payment, which is only repaid if the member sells or rents out the home. It is one of many ways the Culinary, as it’s known, has been helping servers, bellhops and line cooks get their piece of the American Dream. More than half of the union’s members are Latino, and more than half are women.

“For what I do, I feel like I couldn’t be in a better place,” said Stewart-Cariaga, who is 50.

She was about to get ready for a shift at the Paris, where she has worked for 18 years ― what would be considered an eternity in most U.S hospitality jobs. But Vegas has upended the assumption that service jobs must be high turnover and dead-end. For Stewart-Cariaga, a mother of two, there’s no mystery as to why things are different here: “This is a union town, and everybody knows it.”

That’s in spite of the odds against it. For 65 years Nevada has been a “right-to-work” state, one where union-represented workers can opt out of paying dues, even though the union is still legally obligated to bargain on their behalf. Nationally, union membership in the private sector has tumbled to a near-historic low of just 6.5 percent; the numbers tend to be most dismal in right-to-work states, where unions typically wield less power in the workplace and the statehouse.

Yet the Culinary has found a way to thrive in Nevada. The union now represents 57,000 workers at the majority of casinos and hotels on the strip and all but one casino downtown. (Its sister union, Bartenders Local 165, accounts for 3,500 of those members.) Even though the right-to-work law means none of those workers can be required to support the union through their paychecks, more than 95 percent of those workers choose to pay full union dues anyway, keeping the union on strong financial footing. That is an astounding rate by any measure.

The union just recently flexed its muscle in contract talks involving 50,000 workers at 34 properties. As the previous contracts neared their June 1 expiration date, the union held a strike authorization vote. Ninety-nine percent of workers who cast ballots authorized the union to declare a citywide strike June 1 or later if they couldn’t reach a deal with the casinos, potentially disrupting the entire local economy. The credible threat led to a breakthrough, with the two largest operators ― Caesars and MGM, which together run 18 unionized properties ― soon agreeing to five-year deals. As of publication, workers are still preparing to strike at other properties where negotiations continue.

“There’s just a real willingness to organize and to constantly be organizing,” said Ruben Garcia, an expert in labor law at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas School of Law.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:59 pm 
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Proving that Right to Work doesn't destroy unions. It just gives workers a choice and makes Unions work harder for those they represent.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:24 pm 
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This is the model of success for union labor in the US right now.

This union has ninety-something percent of employees as members while other states have people suing for the right to sever financial ties from their union.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:37 pm 
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Proving that Right to Work doesn't destroy unions. It just gives workers a choice and makes Unions work harder for those they represent.

Talking points. What it does is hurt unions - what if you owned a workout gym - and anyone could come in and use it, and dues were voluntary - you didn't have to pay anything if you didn't want to.

You would be forced to provide services without getting paid.

What other business would accept that?

Stupid conservatives.


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Demonstrable fact: right to work states (yes, unfortunately, including my own) have lower unionization levels than ones without such laws.

As to whether you consider that good or bad, I guess it depends on how you feel about unionization levels.

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Demonstrable fact: right to work states (yes, unfortunately, including my own) have lower unionization levels than ones without such laws.

As to whether you consider that good or bad, I guess it depends on how you feel about unionization levels.

When working class people oppose unions it is because their masters tell them to.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:47 pm 
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When working class people oppose unions it is because their masters tell them to.

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Guys like glen worship the boss class, and he thinks the bosses are superior to him, and deserve to treat workers like dirt.


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Guys like glen worship the boss class, and he thinks the bosses are superior to him, and deserve to treat workers like dirt.

They think guys like the Koch bros, who were handed millions and who believe they deserve to have everything and we deserve to have nothing (they have admitted this on camera) are superior and to be admired.

Dumb.

I am still extremely upset about Musk. I would have assumed all of that was rightwing propaganda, as the right hates anyone who works to clean up the air.

Maybe we wait till he invents everything he can invent then seize the company along with Walmart and the Koch enterprise.

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Talking points. What it does is hurt unions - what if you owned a workout gym - and anyone could come in and use it, and dues were voluntary - you didn't have to pay anything if you didn't want to.

You would be forced to provide services without getting paid.

What other business would accept that?

Stupid conservatives.

People should not be forced to pay for services they do not want and did not ask for. People should not be forced to associate with a group not of their choosing. Similarly your union should not be forced to represent people or to provide services without payment.

What this shows is that labor unions that demonstrate that they deliver value added service to their members can be successful in right to work states. I think that’s a plus for unions and the model to be followed by other unions in right to work states.


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sigh...we deserve the future which will have 99% of the money in the hands of .1%

Too many of us are too dumb not to have this as our future. Us adults, i.e. liberals cant save you from yourself.

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People should not be forced to pay for services they do not want and did not ask for. People should not be forced to associate with a group not of their choosing. Similarly your union should not be forced to represent people or to provide services without payment.

What this shows is that labor unions that demonstrate that they deliver value added service to their members can be successful in right to work states. I think that’s a plus for unions and the model to be followed by other unions in right to work states.

Here's the problem, Joe. The union is required by law to represent everyone, including non-members. And, if they feel they weren't represented, they can - and do - sue the union.

Do you think that's fair?

And when you go to work at a Union shop, you get the better pay and benefits, that you wouldn't get without the union. No one wants to give that pay and benefits up!


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Lets not forget that Unions refuse to hire Republicans

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Here's the problem, Joe. The union is required by law to represent everyone, including non-members. And, if they feel they weren't represented, they can - and do - sue the union.

Do you think that's fair?

And when you go to work at a Union shop, you get the better pay and benefits, that you wouldn't get without the union. No one wants to give that pay and benefits up!



No I don't work to change the law. Do you think that it is OK that Union Management refuses to hire Republicans?

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Lets not forget that Unions refuse to hire Republicans

And the NRA refuse to hire anti-gun advocates.


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That is a claim you'd better offer a decent source for.

Repeating it yourself many times is not sourcing.

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That is a claim you'd better offer a decent source for.

Repeating it yourself many times is not sourcing.

I cant wait to see this.

BTW unions should NOT hire traitors, liars, thieves, misogynists, racists...i.e. republicans

My namesake on RRMB version 1 , Libertas, taught me never to say something I cant prove with a credible source and always check first to see if the con is lying, they usually are but on the rare case they arent I needed to be prepared

I no longer practice this when it comes to Rump, I cant prove he owes Putin 1.7 billion and is being blackmailed, but he does and is and I wont ever stop saying it unless they silence me the same way they obviously silenced Jim Jefferies, ask me about that sometime.

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I think if you look in the ranks of the leadership of the Police or Firefighter unions, you will find plenty of Republicans. And remember that there were unions that endorsed Nixon and Reagan.


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I think if you look in the ranks of the leadership of the Police or Firefighter unions, you will find plenty of Republicans. And remember that there were unions that endorsed Nixon and Reagan.

Ask him why does he support the KGB?

Isnt passively looking the other way the same thing as support?

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Here's the problem, Joe. The union is required by law to represent everyone, including non-members. And, if they feel they weren't represented, they can - and do - sue the union.

Do you think that's fair?

And when you go to work at a Union shop, you get the better pay and benefits, that you wouldn't get without the union. No one wants to give that pay and benefits up!


Do I think it is fair that you are required by law to represent people who do not pay for the service. Yes. If such a requirement exist in law that is not fair. But that would be an issue between you, the government and the employer. I as an employee should not be forced to buy something or be part of a transaction unless I make that choice.

You have proof staring you in the face that you can compete for members when you convince them you provide services that add value to their lives. You do not need the government to force people who choose to opt out to pay for services they do not want and did not ask for.

If you wish to petition the legislature to release you from the requirement to provide services to people without payment, I would understand and support such legislation. That is only fair.


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Take time out of their day, stop what they are doing, to ATTACK workers and DEFEND billionaires...amazing

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I think if you look in the ranks of the leadership of the Police or Firefighter unions, you will find plenty of Republicans. And remember that there were unions that endorsed Nixon and Reagan.

I know quite a few conservatives that belong to unions. They seem to like them.


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Do I think it is fair that you are required by law to represent people who do not pay for the service. Yes. If such a requirement exist in law that is not fair. But that would be an issue between you, the government and the employer. I as an employee should not be forced to buy something or be part of a transaction unless I make that choice.

You have proof staring you in the face that you can compete for members when you convince them you provide services that add value to their lives. You do not need the government to force people who choose to opt out to pay for services they do not want and did not ask for.

If you wish to petition the legislature to release you from the requirement to provide services to people without payment, I would understand and support such legislation. That is only fair.

What pious bullshit. That's the law.

Now, BTW, they don't have to join. That's a lie. In states that aren't right-to-work, they have to pay a fee for the services they do receive - union contract, job protections, the right to file a grievance. But they don't have to join.

That's what's fair. If someone doesn't want a union, they always have the right to quit and go to work somewhere without a union.

Unions do continue in right-to-work states, but they are weakened by the laws, and therefore, the contracts aren't as strong as they are in non-right-to-work states.

BTW, the truth is, the right-to-work is against the right to contract. If a union and a company want to negotiate a Union Security Clause, they can't in those states. Almost every company in a non-right-to-work state has a union security clause - and they aren't required to. It's government interference.


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I know quite a few conservatives that belong to unions. They seem to like them.

Yeah. Like Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity. Ronald Reagan was a union "boss".


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I know quite a few conservatives that belong to unions. They seem to like them.



They can belong no problem, if they get elected to office they can serve. But, no republican will ever get hired to a front office union position. In other words the Union position is you Republican pay your dues, sit there in the back of the room and keep your yaps shut.

It wasn't like that back in the 1960's when my dad was a steward for a brief period of time. Back then the Union was not a political arm of the Democratic Party in general and the liberal wing of that party in particular.

How can any business survive if it tells close to 50% of its potential customers to stay away. Which is exactly what organized labor has done over the last 40 years.

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Remember this greatest hit?

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The fake man is Scott Walker and the woman has 3 billion in her bank account and her biggest concern is firefighters and police make too much money. And road workers, etc.

I am not exaggerating

So they DIVIDED and conquered and FUCKED the working people of WI.


I refuse to refer to people like walker, limbaugh, rick scott, rump, pence, mcconnell as MEN. That title has value and worth. I know there are times in my life when I was less than stellar and I did not deserve that title. Nothing big or anything I can remember, per se, just nobody is perfect.

These guys however NEVER are to be called "men".

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