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BTW, Marin, just on one minor - or maybe not so - point, you appear to be alleging that h.v. is a conservative.

Or maybe I'm just misunderstanding you.

But, she is not ... she is a leftie. Maybe "identity politics" leaning as the kids say, today, but ... nothing wrong with that.


My bad, I apologize for the misunderstanding.

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My bad, I apologize for the misunderstanding.

This shows the difference between Sam and Marin. When Marin gets something wrong, he admits it and doesn't make excuses or tries to gloss it over. Thanks, MD.

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This shows the difference between Sam and Marin. When Marin gets something wrong, he admits it and doesn't make excuses or tries to gloss it over. Thanks, MD.


Progressives for lack of a better word, honest.

Cons not so much.

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This shows the difference between Sam and Marin. When Marin gets something wrong, he admits it and doesn't make excuses or tries to gloss it over. Thanks, MD.


He called me a con, then glossed it over after I informed him I'm a Liberal and always vote for Democrats.

He went from calling me a con to saying that he votes his conscience while all I do is vote for Democrats. Which is kind of a funny thing for him to say considering that Marindem is his user name.

It's also kind of a funny thing him railing at Glen the way he does over Trump, Glen having voted for Clinton, and come to find out he having voted for someone who's long dead and was not a Democrat. A Socialist. A pretty good socialist as they go, but the vote was not viable because the man is dead.

He might as well have voted for Trump. With everything on the line due to Trump, and yet Marindem's conscience wouldn't allow him to vote for the Democrat Clinton. And yet he calls himself a dem. And rails at Glen for being a traitor.


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He called me a con, then glossed it over after I informed him I'm a Liberal and always vote for Democrats.

He went from calling me a con to saying that he votes his conscience while all I do is vote for Democrats. Which is kind of a funny thing for him to say considering that Marindem is his user name.

It's also kind of a funny thing him railing at Glen the way he does over Trump, Glen having voted for Clinton, and come to find out he having voted for someone who's long dead and was not a Democrat. A Socialist. A pretty good socialist as they go, but the vote was not viable because the man is dead.

He might as well have voted for Trump. With everything on the line due to Trump, and yet Marindem's conscience wouldn't allow him to vote for the Democrat Clinton. And yet he calls himself a dem. And rails at Glen for being a traitor.

You DO know that Marindem lives in California, don't you? And you DO know that California's Electoral Votes were cast for Clinton, and she won by 30 percent, don't you?

So no, his vote didn't decide the election. So your entire argument is bullshit. And your statements on this board have left many wondering where you really stand. That's YOUR problem, not ours. Often you're just not believable.

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You DO know that Marindem lives in California, don't you? And you DO know that California's Electoral Votes were cast for Clinton, and she won by 30 percent, don't you?

So no, his vote didn't decide the election. So your entire argument is bullshit. And your statements on this board have left many wondering where you really stand. That's YOUR problem, not ours. Often you're just not believable.


I know all that. I and many other Democrats in California voted for a Democrat so that Marindem could vote his conscience without a cost, then I was subtly put down for have voted for a Democrat while he votes with his conscience.

Most of my statements on this board which have left many wondering have to do with the poor way a few people here are treating others and feel morally superior for doing so.

You for instance. Day in and day out calling out Glen and Joe in thread after thread like you're the one who's superior.

A pack of trolls calling other people the trolls.

I won't behave that way and I will stand up and say something about it when I see it. Because I'm calling for civil behavior for our Republican members some people think I must be not a reliable liberal. Because I won't join the pack and bully Glen and Joe properly. And complain about the people who are.


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Wow, you REALLY need a mirror! You're one of the most un-civil people on the board! You need to start by practicing what you preach! Both glen and Joe are playing game of every day right-wing trolling tactics, and we'll continue to call them out on it. You want us to give the cons a free pass, and it's not going to happen.

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He called me a con, then glossed it over after I informed him I'm a Liberal and always vote for Democrats.

He went from calling me a con to saying that he votes his conscience while all I do is vote for Democrats. Which is kind of a funny thing for him to say considering that Marindem is his user name.

It's also kind of a funny thing him railing at Glen the way he does over Trump, Glen having voted for Clinton, and come to find out he having voted for someone who's long dead and was not a Democrat. A Socialist. A pretty good socialist as they go, but the vote was not viable because the man is dead.

He might as well have voted for Trump. With everything on the line due to Trump, and yet Marindem's conscience wouldn't allow him to vote for the Democrat Clinton. And yet he calls himself a dem. And rails at Glen for being a traitor.


I called you a Con because you are.

Yes, I vote my Conscience, Cons vote for trash like 45. They defend him and they support him.

glen can claim he voted for HRC, but the past has taught me that glen is a liar. I have no reason to believe him.

I live in Southern Marin County, in an unincorporated community called Marin City, we share the same zipcode as Sausalito. Marin City is where the ship yard workers for MarinShip lived during WWII. Lots of Liberty Ships wrere built here. My home was cooperative venture between the Federal Government, State of California and Marin County. I was at the time of the purchase of my home, the first person in over 30-Years purchase my house with a V.A. Loan.

I have been a politically active member of the Democratic Central Committee Marin (D.C.C.M.) since 2004. I've been an alternate to the D.C.C.M. since 2008. The same year I attended my first CADEM Convention in San Jose. I have since attended no less than 8-such conventons.

I am not a Socialist. I knew who Eugene V. Debbs was and i jokingly wrote I had voted for him. Leave to you to take such a post seriously.

Now as for HRC.

I never supported her and I never campaigned for her. She was never my choice. But, as mentioned before I am a Delegate the the CADEM and as such am bound by Party rules and could not endorse or support another candidate. I would never have voted for 45, he is everything I oppose.

I have in my capacity as a Delegate walked Marin City/Sausalito for Candidates like Marc Leno (State Asssembly-2 Races and State Senate race before redistricting), Supervisor Charles McGlashan (he died in office) and Jared Huffman (3-Assembly Races and 3-Congressional Races).

Each of the above Men were and/or are Democrat. I cannot be a Registered Democrat, and serve as a Delegate to CADEM, that is against the law in California.

I've campaigned Lynn Woolsey (one campaign before she retired), Marin County Supervisor Kate Sears (District 3), Marin Supervisor Judy Arnold (District 5) and Marin County Supervisor Damon Connolly (District 1). Each of these people are Democrats. The one Democrat that I have refused to Campaign for Assemblyman Marc Levine, Assembly District 10. He a glad hander. I do not trust him worth damn. I do serve on the District 10 Democratic Club and Marc has let us know that he expects blind loyalty, which I never ever give.

I am a Proud and Loud Democratic Progressive.

You ain't gotta like it sam. But I really don't care do or not.

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Some people walk the walk.

Sam talks the talk, and attacks those who walk the walk.

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I apologize for going off topic. Sexual Abuse/Sexual Assault is way to important to be ignored because one member of the forum got pissed at me.

6-Peolple have accused Jordan now.

OSU is investigating. If Jordan is cuplable he must be held accuntable for his indifference to health and welfare of members of Wrestling he let down.

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Well, the truth is, they can't make him resign over this. Plus, he's running for re-election in a HEAVILY gerrymandered super-safe Republican district, the Ohio 4th. Democrat Janet Garrett is running for the 3rd time, and in 2016 Jordan beat her 2-1.

And c'mon, Republicans just don't give a shit about these things.

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Eugene V. Debs died in 1926.

I assumed Marin was joking. People do write in dead people, but he didn't say it was a write in vote.

BTW, I don't know if there's ever a case where a dead person won as a write in ... I'm not sure what the procedure would involve, but like somebody once said about Andy Kaufman, it might involve flashlights and shovels.

OK. Carry on, people.

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I called you a Con because you are.

Yes, I vote my Conscience, Cons vote for trash like 45. They defend him and they support him.

glen can claim he voted for HRC, but the past has taught me that glen is a liar. I have no reason to believe him.

I live in Southern Marin County, in an unincorporated community called Marin City, we share the same zipcode as Sausalito. Marin City is where the ship yard workers for MarinShip lived during WWII. Lots of Liberty Ships wrere built here. My home was cooperative venture between the Federal Government, State of California and Marin County. I was at the time of the purchase of my home, the first person in over 30-Years purchase my house with a V.A. Loan.

I have been a politically active member of the Democratic Central Committee Marin (D.C.C.M.) since 2004. I've been an alternate to the D.C.C.M. since 2008. The same year I attended my first CADEM Convention in San Jose. I have since attended no less than 8-such conventons.

I am not a Socialist. I knew who Eugene V. Debbs was and i jokingly wrote I had voted for him. Leave to you to take such a post seriously.

Now as for HRC.

I never supported her and I never campaigned for her. She was never my choice. But, as mentioned before I am a Delegate the the CADEM and as such am bound by Party rules and could not endorse or support another candidate. I would never have voted for 45, he is everything I oppose.

I have in my capacity as a Delegate walked Marin City/Sausalito for Candidates like Marc Leno (State Asssembly-2 Races and State Senate race before redistricting), Supervisor Charles McGlashan (he died in office) and Jared Huffman (3-Assembly Races and 3-Congressional Races).

Each of the above Men were and/or are Democrat. I cannot be a Registered Democrat, and serve as a Delegate to CADEM, that is against the law in California.

I've campaigned Lynn Woolsey (one campaign before she retired), Marin County Supervisor Kate Sears (District 3), Marin Supervisor Judy Arnold (District 5) and Marin County Supervisor Damon Connolly (District 1). Each of these people are Democrats. The one Democrat that I have refused to Campaign for Assemblyman Marc Levine, Assembly District 10. He a glad hander. I do not trust him worth damn. I do serve on the District 10 Democratic Club and Marc has let us know that he expects blind loyalty, which I never ever give.

I am a Proud and Loud Democratic Progressive.

You ain't gotta like it sam. But I really don't care do or not.


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I assumed Marin was joking.

Of course he was, and everyone else thought so too. Sam just wanted an excuse to attack him.

Lighten up, Sam.

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Additional wrestling team members are emerging with confirming accounts. The last count I've seen is six.

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Eugene V. Debs died in 1926.

I assumed Marin was joking. People do write in dead people, but he didn't say it was a write in vote.

BTW, I don't know if there's ever a case where a dead person won as a write in ... I'm not sure what the procedure would involve, but like somebody once said about Andy Kaufman, it might involve flashlights and shovels.

OK. Carry on, people.


Former Attorney General John Ashcroft lost his Senate Race in 2000 to the late Missouri Governor Mel Carnahan.

http://www.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/sto ... .missouri/.

Which takes a fair amount of talent to do. bush43 appointed Ashcroft A.G. after the Supreme Court ruled in favor of bush43 in Bush v Gore.

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Eugene V. Debs died in 1926.

I assumed Marin was joking.


I was.

As Drill Instructor Staff Sergeant Lando would say, "Fuck him if he can't take a joke".

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http://thehill.com/homenews/house/39597 ... ssion=true

7th Wrestler has come forward.

Resign, scumbag.

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Former Attorney General John Ashcroft lost his Senate Race in 2000 to the late Missouri Governor Mel Carnahan.

http://www.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/sto ... .missouri/.

Which takes a fair amount of talent to do. bush43 appointed Ashcroft A.G. after the Supreme Court ruled in favor of bush43 in Bush v Gore.

Well, in a 90% white, deep-red, evangelical-heavy district, it'd be a miracle. Hell, remember that Roy Moore just BARELY lost Alabama, and he was accused of pedophilia. This guy didn't diddle any young men himself - that's not what he's accused of. AT WORST, he turned a blind eye.

And considering what the OTHER people they're voting for is doing, he's a friggin' boy scout!

Sorry, but I've got a feeling that he's in no real trouble of losing an election. It's possible - though I don't know that it's likely - that the Republicans will force him to resign. Considering what it took for Scott Pruitt to be shown the door, I'm not as optimistic as you that he's got anything to worry about in the long run. I think he can deny, deny, deny and brazen it out.

Just my opinion.

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If the allegations were from one wrestler than it would be his word against Jordan's word but seven people making the same allegation makes it more plausible that it happened. Since the wrestlers were in college, chances are the wrestlers are now living in different parts of the country so it's a very low possibility this is a conspiracy as our conservative friends would contend. If these allegations are true then it calls into question Jordan's judgement not only at that time but now by denying it and he should resign.

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Yep.

Do we believe seven witnesses or a guy obstructing a federal investigation for Trump?

He also blamed Rosenstein and Hillary Clinton for this scandal. They jumped into a time machine and set him up.

These guys always blame someone else.

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If the allegations were from one wrestler than it would be his word against Jordan's word but seven people making the same allegation makes it more plausible that it happened. Since the wrestlers were in college, chances are the wrestlers are now living in different parts of the country so it's a very low possibility this is a conspiracy as our conservative friends would contend. If these allegations are true then it calls into question Jordan's judgement not only at that time but now by denying it and he should resign.

Look, I AGREE!!! I'm QUITE sure they're telling the truth, and he knew what was up and stood by and did nothing. I mean, that's how Republicans act in those circumstances, as they only care about themselves. They aren't going to put THEIR career on the line to protect kids!

And in a normal world, he would be resigning right now. But we're in Trumpland. I just don't think he'll do it, and I don't think the Republicans, given their track record, will force him. And I don't think the Republican voters in his District will vote for a Democrat.

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It's the same old story. We will call out anyone, left or right. But no conservatives come to this thread.

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Yep.

Do we believe seven witnesses or a guy obstructing a federal investigation for Trump?

He also blamed Rosenstein and Hillary Clinton for this scandal. They jumped into a time machine and set him up.

These guys always blame someone else.


I suprised he did not throw Barack Obama as well. Another member of "The Party of Personal Responsibility" desperately seeks to blame someone, anyone but himself for what he did....typical Republican Behavior.

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