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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:26 pm 
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The most radical weather observations are up the hill from here where right now it's 120 degrees F, and 4 per cent humidity. This is unheard of, even in this forsaken desert. It's also a fire waiting to happen.

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Glendale 117
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Downtown LA 109
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Here, we're lucky. It's a balmy 96 at 5:20 in the afternoon. Temperatures may or may not have peaked for the day. It's already completely unexplored territory, so who knows?

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Santa Monica Airport now a pleasant 98. That's the high for the day, at 6 PM. Still rising. You can usually add a few degrees to KSMO here. I'm thinking the 102 region. That's practically a cooling center compared to inland.

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Dozens of Extreme Heat Records Broken Around the World

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well, theres no fucking conifer forests left anymore....all moisture EVAPORATES INSTEAD OF MELTING.
that evaporation causes floods back east.

the west is heat rising high pressure drought causing ANY moisture to evaporate in the west while the moisture in the atmosphere/sky moves east causing flooding back east after it totally bypasses the entire west.
all becuz they clear cut the fucking forests down. and they knew the consequences and didnt GAF.

merica...yeh, we be fucked here. thanks wallst greed.

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well, theres no fucking conifer forests left anymore....all moisture EVAPORATES INSTEAD OF MELTING.
that evaporation causes floods back east.

the west is heat rising high pressure drought causing ANY moisture to evaporate in the west while the moisture in the atmosphere/sky moves east causing flooding back east after it totally bypasses the entire west.
all becuz they clear cut the fucking forests down. and they knew the consequences and didnt GAF.

merica...yeh, we be fucked here. thanks wallst greed.


The Conifer's are almost gone here. The Oaks are pretty stressed.

I don't know which Oak trees will be dead come fire wood cutting time but I do know that I will have two or three to cut up. During the spring I was thinking I would have to talk to some neighbors and make a deal for one or two dead trees because I had run out of dead trees. But that will not be necessary. I've never seen the Oaks this stressed before, and I've seen them plenty stressed before.

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I'm going to have some dead Buckeyes (hacky sack trees) come fall as well. Maybe all of them. I'm pretty sure buckeyes were the original hacky sacks, it's the only thing they're good for.


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The Conifer's are almost gone here. The Oaks are pretty stressed.

I don't know which Oak trees will be dead come fire wood cutting time but I do know that I will have two or three to cut up. During the spring I was thinking I would have to talk to some neighbors and make a deal for one or two dead trees because I had run out of dead trees. But that will not be necessary. I've never seen the Oaks this stressed before, and I've seen them plenty stressed before.

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I'm going to have some dead Buckeyes (hacky sack trees) come fall as well. Maybe all of them. I'm pretty sure buckeyes were the original hacky sacks, it's the only thing they're good for.

id say go to S/Or for scrub oak, but, whats the point. the lichen fungus creates 3-4inches of coating
on every branch new and old, like a sleeve for a winter coat. then, come fall the branches break
and hit the ground due to the weight..except when you pick it up there is NO tree there.
its all lichen fungal growth: they ate the tree. sucked the life from the every new branch.
you pick up lichen fungus and see nothing but..tree powder.
never seen anything like that before. a tree disappears into the fungus

i see pinion go over and there is no root system left.
ive seen aerials of large trees toppling in areas back east and..there is NO root system left.
the cedar around here, the cedar who sheltered the pinions allowing them to regrow after they
clear cut these hills 25yrs ago as tho no one noticed
..the cedars dont have much if any
lichen fungal growth; im thinking its becuz the bark is, comes, in strips, flowing loose strips and
the fungus cant adhere to that.
the pinions the cedars sheltered and helped grow since cedars grow where they can find ANY
moisture baby pinions grow in the shade of the cedar. the pinions all have some lichen fungal growth.
except for a few....around me someone has been here putting a bit of water on these few pinions for
about 24years steady. these cedars and pinions are large healthy with little to NO lichen fungal
shit on them. one or two spots is all.
why?...becuz for over 20yrs they got a BIT of water and they still do. im watering out there now
and im not putting that much water on the wild ground cover, just a bit each week, and all these
trees are healthy large growing and not covered in lichen fungus. across the road?...the same
cedars and pinions are short dry and covered in fungus growth. my trees are over 40ft tall and full.

when i was on the big high altitude ranch...in 2003 after drought set in the CO area...i kept the horses in the 3acre corral all summer beneath Big ponderosa's, mostly in case i needed to grab and load them out of there.
so, i decided id take a patch of hillside and see what "grass" did. ungrazed native grass in heat and drought.
i set out water hoses so two times a week this half acre got ten minutes of water. that was all.
two times a week it got about 9-10mins of water is all.

by end of july--and i have pictures---i had GRASS OVER SEVEN FEET TALL FULL OF SEED HEADS
READY TO SEED OUT THE ADJOINING LAND.
ive got pic of my large dogs standing in this very tall native grass that at one time
about 100yrears prior the buffalo ran thru creating "swaths" of downed grasses as they moved to
a new area.
the ranch was Indian Country. the grasses were still there 100s of years later.

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> Deforestation

Obviously it's a major problem. It destroys every other process that a healthy system needs to remain that way. It's a warming and drying process in itself, and it interacts with greenhouse effect climate change in a manner that accelerates both processes.

You can really see it working in North America. Seems to be the same wherever you go. It's quite scary, in fact.


> the death of L.A.

Well, we knew L.A. was terminal. You don't stick 4 million people in an arid basin with mountains on one side and the Pacific Ocean on the other without things eventually going very badly wrong.


> climate

Here's the poop. L.A. and a lot of other places in North America have much higher barometric pressures on average, especially at the high levels way up where jet planes fly. These steer the jet stream and a lot of other things.

This, according to most studies, is almost certainly a consequence of Arctic ice melt, though I would imagine that the deforestation of the US region is once again reinforcing and feeding back to accelerate the process. We're seeing much higher pressures on average over both coasts. What did it to us this year was/is kind of an East Coast version of The Ridge that sat off CA for years and started the drought process that now due to defoliation sustains itself. After nuking the East, the upper level system moved west.

Now, large high pressure systems do not move westward in North America. The prevailing circulation since anyone knew there was such a thing is west to east. This one moved east to west. It retrograded, across the entire continent.

High pressure systems over the US land mass do not retrograde across the entire continent. Except this one did.

It caused an October weather pattern in July in L.A.. October has half the sunshine. It's July. We're lucky this place is doing is well as it is, and it's not doing well at all. Everyone was assured that the power grid could handle it, but it couldn't. It's blowing up everywhere you look. The power failed at the rehab hospital my mother-in-law is in, and the generator was only to get the lights back on so the a/c failed. Oh, and so did the phones. They worked for a while, on battery presumably, but batteries drain.

No restoration time for the power. They don't know what hit them.

This is typical.

And they say they're ready for an earthquake. They can't even handle the catastophic hot spell that gave them a week's warning.

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Strangely enough, it hasn't been super hot where I am. It's been coolesque. But I'm assuming that will change soon.

The weather patterns seem to go like this where I am - Summer now starts in mid May. It gets pretty hot. Then by mid June it cools down a bit. Then by the first or second week of July, we get the heat again.
Forest fires around the rest of the province are starting up again in record numbers though.

I really hope we don't get the forest fire problems we had over the last two years. The last two years have been bad. Skies overcast with smoke for weeks on end. No sun, super muggy and dark.

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California is on fire again, but that's hardly newsworthy. Fire season used to be October-January. Then it was July-February. Now it either starts in April or it never stops at all.

San Francisco has that smoke problem. For two years now, it mixes with the fog and turns the sky reddish-brown for days on end.

L.A. used to be called the "valley of smokes." Richard Henry Dana describes smoke clouds in his 19th century voyage up this coast described in Two Years Before the Mast. Native Americans were too smart to live in most of it. Most of the Chumash ancestral lands are right along the coast, where they get dug up for more condos. Seems that even silly white people would rather be out of the worst, if they can afford it.

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Humidity must be up, there's a thunderstorm off somewhere and a flash flood warning. I'm supposed to avoid stream beds. Fortunately, the nearest one of those is several miles away, and safely encased in cement, the way L.A. does.

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Humidity must be up, there's a thunderstorm off somewhere and a flash flood warning. I'm supposed to avoid stream beds. Fortunately, the nearest one of those is several miles away, and safely encased in cement, the way L.A. does.



That's the other thing. We never used to get thunder and lightening here. At all. Now we do.

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Mountain thunderstorms here are from the monsoon season, which is actually what is supposed to happen. High pressure is supposed to park over the four corners and drain moist air down over the mountains to SoCal. That's actually normal. It's a little early, but it's been known to start in June.

What isn't normal is when strong ridges form along the coasts. The Pacific High is supposed to stay out at sea. Nowadays it's anyone's guess what happens.

Only in L.A. would a monsoon be bone dry. The storms usually stay over the hills, though the water doesn't. Big surprise for homeless camping in flood channels.

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Didn’t realize that the Chinese had so much power.

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Mind you, this is what happens in LA when it rains.
www.youtube.com Video from : www.youtube.com

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Mind you, this is what happens in LA when it rains.
www.youtube.com Video from : www.youtube.com

Yep, that video pretty much sums it up when it rains in Southern California.

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The most radical weather observations are up the hill from here where right now it's 120 degrees F, and 4 per cent humidity. This is unheard of, even in this forsaken desert. It's also a fire waiting to happen.

Other places:

Glendale 117
Van Nuys 115
Downtown LA 109
USC Campus 108
Long Beach 107
Torrance 100

Here, we're lucky. It's a balmy 96 at 5:20 in the afternoon. Temperatures may or may not have peaked for the day. It's already completely unexplored territory, so who knows?

The U.S. has had a "heat dome" over it for the past week and now it's hitting the West Coast. Friday, it hit 95 along the beach with super-low humidity. In the San Diego area, we've had a number of brush fires popping up and with some high winds they spread causing a number of homes to be burned to the ground. Fortunately these fires haven't hit the area hard like they did in 2007 but when the temperature rises we begin to worry.

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Pretty bad fire north of Santa Barbara near the UC campus.

Yes, the heat dome was a result of the almost historically strong upper-level high, which retrograded all the way across the US, even though upper-level highs never do that... or didn't used to.

> powerful China

The president says climate change is a Chinese hoax, and after all, the president is always right.

> rain

That video is more accurate than most people can imagine.

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Pretty bad fire north of Santa Barbara near the UC campus.

Yes, the heat dome was a result of the almost historically strong upper-level high, which retrograded all the way across the US, even though upper-level highs never do that... or didn't used to.

> powerful China

The president says climate change is a Chinese hoax, and after all, the president is always right.

> rain

That video is more accurate than most people can imagine.

The last part of the video when the two people who felt the earthquake and then laughed it off is accurate. Most people in Southern California don't pay attention to an earthquake unless it's over a 4.0.

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The scenario for rain at Casa Z is uh-oh, is everything covered, are we ready? The response for earthquakes under magnitude 5.5 is "Earthquake!" followed by a search for information on Where The Center Was. It is very important to know this. It's almost a status thing to be the closest.

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The power company said they were ready. They had a week's notice. They kept saying this year isn't like last year when around a million people lost power. This year they're ready.............

Not.

Power's still off all over the city, spotty, you know, like one block has it and the next one doesn't for no reason visible to anyone who doesn't have the precise routing maps. Power company now says well it's a big event, you can't expect us to be ready for those. We'll get your power back on any day now, well, 48 hours minimum, then we'll see.

This in an earthquake zone.........

The rehab center finally closed. Power never came back. Generator ran out of fuel. Some patients were taken in ambulances to far less pleasant facilities, like hospitals. Big Keystone Kop scene. We sprung the mom-in-law and drove her home. Their area had lost power in last year's apocalyptic aforementioned "heat event," but this is this year and cross fingers.

She'd been getting good treatment there and it was helping (mostly she's just old). Well, that's the end of that.

This in an earthquake zone.........

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OMG, old painter friend is in the Nooz, she's 97 and still painting and suddenly famous. I'm outta here.

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Pretty bad fire north of Santa Barbara near the UC campus.

Yes, the heat dome was a result of the almost historically strong upper-level high, which retrograded all the way across the US, even though upper-level highs never do that... or didn't used to.

> powerful China

The president says climate change is a Chinese hoax, and after all, the president is always right.

> rain

That video is more accurate than most people can imagine.

big cumulus clouds are building here almost daily now. some rain from them as well.
the first moisture in nearly six months. had about 4" of snow 6mos ago then nothing since
last august. so nearly 10 months with NO moisture.

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...and it's the middle of winter down there.
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World temperature map is pretty scary. Southern hemisphere is indeed in midwinter, a couple of weeks after the solstice, and it's hotter than all hell in a lot of places. I wonder if this is the first planetary heat wave.

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