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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:29 pm 
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World temperature map is pretty scary. Southern hemisphere is indeed in midwinter, a couple of weeks after the solstice, and it's hotter than all hell in a lot of places. I wonder if this is the first planetary heat wave.


The article I read is the most alarmist CC scientists now saying they were wrong, that it is TWICE as bad as even they thought.

The least alarmist CC scientists now saying TWICE as bad. I truly and sincerely WANT to see deniers suffer for their denial because as far as I am concerned they are MURDERING MY FAMILY

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:56 pm 
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The power company is now calling it a "heat storm." Presumably, that makes them look better, if they can write it off to Force Majeure.

Back in the real world:

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Storm:

(N.) 1. a disturbance of the normal condition of the atmosphere, manifesting itself by winds of unusual force or direction, often accompanied by rain, snow, hail, thunder, and lightning, or flying sand or dust.

2. a heavy fall of rain, snow, or hail, or a violent outbreak of thunder and lightning, unaccompanied by strong winds.

3. Also called violent storm. Meteorology. a wind of 64–72 miles per hour (29–32 m/sec).

4. a violent military assault on a fortified place, strong position, or the like.

5. a heavy or sudden volley or discharge: a storm of criticism; a storm of bullets.

6. a violent disturbance of affairs, as a civil, political, social, or domestic commotion.

7. a violent outburst or outbreak of expression: a storm of applause.


http://www.dictionary.com/browse/storm?q=storm

Note that all these involve turbulence, fury, violence, or some other sort of commotion. I realize that commotion is relative in L.A., but still. Is the earthquake going to be a "motion storm?" I hate this place.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:56 pm 
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The power company is now calling it a "heat storm." Presumably, that makes them look better, if they can write it off to Force Majeure.

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http://www.dictionary.com/browse/storm?q=storm

Note that all these involve turbulence, fury, violence, or some other sort of commotion. I realize that commotion is relative in L.A., but still. Is the earthquake going to be a "motion storm?" I hate this place.


It takes 144 Btu per pound to melt ice and raise the temperature one degree, from 32F to 33F. Then to continue raising the temperature of water it only takes 1 Btu per degree, per pound.

In the middle of the night I have melted tons of ice. It seems like it only gets noticed in the middle of the night that those big coffin freezers in supermarkets are thawing out, so the call comes in in the middle of the night.

I would arrive already knowing what was wrong, the drains had clogged with ice and the coils had continued to condense moisture and freeze it, and the defrost cycles would have melted that ice but, unable to go down the drain that water flowed into a growing glacier which was the size of width times length of the coffin freezer times about ten inches in depth where it would refreeze never to be melted by the defrost elements again, it would just add another layer. This process would have been going on for a couple of months before it would be noticed.

Several tons of thawing food sitting above a hard frozen glacier ten inches thick. I would get a crew of store stockers organized, their job was to pull the thawing food off of the top, sort it good from the bad and stuff the good in backroom freezers and coolers, and throw it away what had gone bad.

I would get my hot water hoses out and hook them to the stores hot water heater, attach a nozzle, put on gloves because the nozzle would get hot. The first thing was to cut that ice above the drain down to the drain and get it so it could drain away the melt water. After opening up a drain the hot water would be pretty much used up and the slow process of melting tons of ice with cold water would begin. Hours would go by.

Now I'm about to make an observation which applies to the climate. At first I would pour on water and if anything the amount of ice would increase somewhat because minus 30 ice would freeze some of the water I would pour on as the ice flow was warming up to 32 degrees. Then when the ice flow was warmed up to 32 degrees it had to be warmed up to 33 degrees. That takes 144 Btu per pound, and every pound of cold water I would pour on it would have about 20 to 30 Btu's to give to that process. Five to eight pounds of cold tap water to melt one pound of ice, after the ice has reached 32 degrees.

I would pour and pour water on and not much would happen. But eventually that ice flow would be warmed through and through and that 144 Btu per pound of energy would be satisfied. Then all of sudden the ice would begin to melt away quickly with ease and very little more cold water was needed.


That is what has happened year and years have gone by while the polar ice sheets have been absorbing excess heat, but had been staying frozen. But eventually that ice reached 32 degrees at which point it still absorbed the excess energy until it had absorbed an additional 144 Btu's of energy per pound. That process has been going on for years. 50, 80, maybe a 100 years. Now that ice is gone, the ballast effect is gone.

The Oceans are now free of the polar ice mass thermal heat sink, that ballast, and now they are free to warm up. From now on it will take very little excess energy to warm one pound of sea water up one degree, about one BTU.

That's the dynamic fix we're in. It's going to hurt. Things are going to happen quickly now. The ice on the land at the south pole is going to melt away and flow into the sea. :(


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It takes 144 Btu per pound to melt ice and raise the temperature one degree, from 32F to 33F. Then to continue raising the temperature of water it only takes 1 Btu per degree, per pound.

In the middle of the night I have melted tons of ice. It seems like it only gets noticed in the middle of the night that those big coffin freezers in supermarkets are thawing out, so the call comes in in the middle of the night.

I would arrive already knowing what was wrong, the drains had clogged with ice and the coils had continued to condense moisture and freeze it, and the defrost cycles would have melted that ice but, unable to go down the drain that water flowed into a growing glacier which was the size of width times length of the coffin freezer times about ten inches in depth where it would refreeze never to be melted by the defrost elements again, it would just add another layer. This process would have been going on for a couple of months before it would be noticed.

Several tons of thawing food sitting above a hard frozen glacier ten inches thick. I would get a crew of store stockers organized, their job was to pull the thawing food off of the top, sort it good from the bad and stuff the good in backroom freezers and coolers, and throw it away what had gone bad.

I would get my hot water hoses out and hook them to the stores hot water heater, attach a nozzle, put on gloves because the nozzle would get hot. The first thing was to cut that ice above the drain down to the drain and get it so it could drain away the melt water. After opening up a drain the hot water would be pretty much used up and the slow process of melting tons of ice with cold water would begin. Hours would go by.

Now I'm about to make an observation which applies to the climate. At first I would pour on water and if anything the amount of ice would increase somewhat because minus 30 ice would freeze some of the water I would pour on as the ice flow was warming up to 32 degrees. Then when the ice flow was warmed up to 32 degrees it had to be warmed up to 33 degrees. That takes 144 Btu per pound, and every pound of cold water I would pour on it would have about 20 to 30 Btu's to give to that process. Five to eight pounds of cold tap water to melt one pound of ice, after the ice has reached 32 degrees.

I would pour and pour water on and not much would happen. But eventually that ice flow would be warmed through and through and that 144 Btu per pound of energy would be satisfied. Then all of sudden the ice would begin to melt away quickly with ease and very little more cold water was needed.


That is what has happened year and years have gone by while the polar ice sheets have been absorbing excess heat, but had been staying frozen. But eventually that ice reached 32 degrees at which point it still absorbed the excess energy until it had absorbed an additional 144 Btu's of energy per pound. That process has been going on for years. 50, 80, maybe a 100 years. Now that ice is gone, the ballast effect is gone.

The Oceans are now free of the polar ice mass thermal heat sink, that ballast, and now they are free to warm up. From now on it will take very little excess energy to warm one pound of sea water up one degree, about one BTU.

That's the dynamic fix we're in. It's going to hurt. Things are going to happen quickly now. The ice on the land at the south pole is going to melt away and flow into the sea. :(

Not to mention Greenland’s ice as well.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:06 pm 
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It's fire time here. Got a big one growing to the north east, about 15 miles away. Aircraft have been flying over the house all day.

It's called the Ferguson Fire and it's in the national news because it killed a fire fighter this morning. It's in a straight up and down kind of place. About in the spot where a major land slide slid Highway 140 off into the river about 15 years ago and they still have not fixed it. They don't know how to fix it. They put two temporary one lane bridges in and have the highway diverted to the other side of the river for now.


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I was wondering how close you were to that one.

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The fire grew today, what it was yesterday times 20.

The DC 10 has flown over my house about 8 or 10 times. I fly's over, and I mean right over head at about 200 to 300 feet with it's flaps extended, flying slow. When it is exactly over my house it makes a slight turn toward the north.

Besides the DC-10 there are many other aircraft flying overhead making a slight turn toward the north when they are exactly over my house. My house is an aircraft landmark.

Every minute and a half like clock work an aircraft flies over head. At about 200 to 300 feet. The big ones shake the ground.


I saw a new one today, a Bell AH-1 Cobra. I haven't seen one of those attack helicopters since the early 80's. They have a distinctive silhouette. The fuselage is only a meter wide, and it has stubby wings below the rotor. I looked it up and the forest service has converted two of them for firefighting. They would be good for that, they certainly can lift and haul the weight. But I thought they were all gone.


They made everyone leave Jerseydale. An improvement. :D


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I was wondering how close you were to that one.


Yesterday I was about 15 miles from it. According to the latest midnight yesterday map I'm now about 10 miles from it. I'll know how far I'm from it now about 2:00 PM tomorrow.

Based on what I'm seeing from the ground I would say this one is blowing up. I think it will mostly run toward the north east in the afternoon, and dodge back toward me to the southwest in the middle of the night like it did last night.

It wouldn't surprise me at all to get a telephone call tonight or tomorrow night around midnight from the sheriff's department. A gorge is between me and it. But the last few years the sheriff's department has been pretty darned liberal about giving out those evacuation orders, just making sure.

I don't think I will actually be at risk.


They turn the power off now when they give an evacuation order. That does get people moving. :|


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:15 pm 
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The fire grew today, what it was yesterday times 20.

The DC 10 has flown over my house about 8 or 10 times. I fly's over, and I mean right over head at about 200 to 300 feet with it's flaps extended, flying slow. When it is exactly over my house it makes a slight turn toward the north.

Besides the DC-10 there are many other aircraft flying overhead making a slight turn toward the north when they are exactly over my house. My house is an aircraft landmark.

Every minute and a half like clock work an aircraft flies over head. At about 200 to 300 feet. The big ones shake the ground.


I saw a new one today, a Bell AH-1 Cobra. I haven't seen one of those attack helicopters since the early 80's. They have a distinctive silhouette. The fuselage is only a meter wide, and it has stubby wings below the rotor. I looked it up and the forest service has converted two of them for firefighting. They would be good for that, they certainly can lift and haul the weight. But I thought they were all gone.


They made everyone leave Jerseydale. An improvement. :D


There used to be a Cobra at Long Beach Airport, still in its military livery. I would imagine it was a story ship for shoots. The thing is certainly something to look at.

I didn't see it there last time I went by a couple of months ago. Maybe out, or maybe retired.

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