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camp in the Bahamas.

Did you hear about that too?

I also heard that he raped several women but paid them off not to talk, did you hear that also?

How about the story of the 24,000 people who over the years worked for sub contractors he did business with then cheated and so they all lost their jobs?

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Nobody?

But I heard some people say, truly I did.

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I'm sure you did. I hear weird shit coming from weird people too.

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I am sure Trump is crooked. I am sure 99% that any crimes are from private sector and mostly civil crimes. I am sure that no matter what he has done or hasn't done that he will get off scott free [ short of being a Russian agent]. I am also sure the reason he gets off will be because of "The Little Liberal Who Cried Wolf". The more bullshit accusations people on the left come up with the more outlandish they become. The more outlandish they become the more credibility Democrats lose when it comes to Trump's lack of a moral center. The more that happens the bigger the chance if and when real accusations are made, people will be way more likely to dismiss them as just more of the same coming from the left.

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I am sure Trump is crooked. I am sure 99% that any crimes are from private sector and mostly civil crimes. I am sure that no matter what he has done or hasn't done that he will get off scott free [ short of being a Russian agent]. I am also sure the reason he gets off will be because of "The Little Liberal Who Cried Wolf". The more bullshit accusations people on the left come up with the more outlandish they become. The more outlandish they become the more credibility Democrats lose when it comes to Trump's lack of a moral center. The more that happens the bigger the chance if and when real accusations are made, people will be way more likely to dismiss them as just more of the same coming from the left.

How is it all these people around him have been indicted - and some have plead guilty - for their Russian collusion, but Trump is as innocent as the driven snow?

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How is it all these people around him have been indicted - and some have plead guilty - for their Russian collusion, but Trump is as innocent as the driven snow?



I never said he was innocent. I said he is a corrupt person with no morals. I am saying the more outlandish accusations that come out about him the more likely it is he gets away with anything he has done.

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I never said he was innocent. I said he is a corrupt person with no morals. I am saying the more outlandish accusations that come out about him the more likely it is he gets away with anything he has done.

Yes, you HAVE. You said he was completely innocent of any collusion with Russia. You still say that.

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Yes, you HAVE. You said he was completely innocent of any collusion with Russia. You still say that.

Do you not?



Based on what we currently know I do not believe there was any direct collusion between Trump and the Russians. I do not believe there was any corridinated effort between the Russians and the GOP. I do believe that there are individuals within the Trump campaign who did collude with the Russians for personal or political gain. I do not believe the Russian collusion was done to get Trump elected. I believe it was to discredit HRC who everyone believed would be the next president. Finally I do believe that the Russian interference was not the only thing that got Trump elected but was the number 1 factor.

Now on the other hand you believe that Trump is a Russian agent and others here believe so much more. Which side sounds more reasonable?

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Based on what we currently know I do not believe there was any direct collusion between Trump and the Russians. I do not believe there was any corridinated effort between the Russians and the GOP. I do believe that there are individuals within the Trump campaign who did collude with the Russians for personal or political gain. I do not believe the Russian collusion was done to get Trump elected. I believe it was to discredit HRC who everyone believed would be the next president. Finally I do believe that the Russian interference was not the only thing that got Trump elected but was the number 1 factor.

Now on the other hand you believe that Trump is a Russian agent and others here believe so much more. Which side sounds more reasonable?

First, no one has said that the GOP has colluded with Russia. ONLY the Trump campaign.

Second, considering the huge amount of evidence we already have, with his senior aides in direct collusion, that it was done without Trump knowing. There was a meeting in Trump Tower with Trump present that day, with Trump's son among others. His son made a phone call to blocked cell phone - which is what Trump used - and when the news of the meeting was made public, Trump dictated a false press release. And, right after the meeting, he asked for Russia to give him Hillary's hacked emails. He then talked about a story about Hillary that had just been posted on an obscure Russian news website. How did he get that story?

Also, Trump had KGB Agents into the Oval Office.

Oh, yeah, and our intelligence agencies have found that Russia WAS working to get Trump elected. I guess you agree with Trump that our intelligence agencies are lying, too, right?

No, glen, the unreasonable one is the one saying that Trump is completely innocent of any collusion with Russia.

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After the election, President Obama had a number of Russian diplomatic compounds closed because of the election interference. One of the very first things Trump did was give them back.

...But he's "tougher" on the Russians than any previous president. Image

Name ONE thing Trump has said even mildly critical of Putin or Russia. He's said plenty of bad things about NATO and US allies. He's even claimed that Russia invaded the Crimea to protect the Russian speakers there, which is Russia's talking point. Nope. No colllusion.

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I do not believe the Russian collusion was done to get Trump elected.


Then you are ignoring the findings of the Senate Intelligence Committee - led by Republicans.

https://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/ed ... 53275.html

The intelligence community’s assessment declared: “We assess with high confidence that Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the U.S. presidential election, the consistent goals of which were to undermine public faith in the US democratic process, denigrate Secretary [Hillary] Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency. We further assess Putin and the Russian government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump.” The new Senate report calls this a “sound intelligence product.”

The Senate assessment reveals that, on the second intelligence finding, there was a Russian preference for Trump, the existence of which the CIA and FBI had “high confidence” in and the NSA “moderate confidence.” The Senate panel says it found the interpretive disagreement to be “reasonable, transparent, and openly debated.” That is a reassuring conclusion about the process and a welcome contrast to the fuzzy thinking expressed by Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee in a March 22 report that criticized intelligence community methods and attempted to exonerate Trump’s campaign.

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Again, to be clear, the NSA was only slightly less sure of this than the CIA and FBI, but ultimately, other than the confidence level, they were all in agreement.

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Then you are ignoring the findings of the Senate Intelligence Committee - led by Republicans.

https://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/ed ... 53275.html

The intelligence community’s assessment declared: “We assess with high confidence that Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the U.S. presidential election, the consistent goals of which were to undermine public faith in the US democratic process, denigrate Secretary [Hillary] Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency. We further assess Putin and the Russian government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump.” The new Senate report calls this a “sound intelligence product.”

The Senate assessment reveals that, on the second intelligence finding, there was a Russian preference for Trump, the existence of which the CIA and FBI had “high confidence” in and the NSA “moderate confidence.” The Senate panel says it found the interpretive disagreement to be “reasonable, transparent, and openly debated.” That is a reassuring conclusion about the process and a welcome contrast to the fuzzy thinking expressed by Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee in a March 22 report that criticized intelligence community methods and attempted to exonerate Trump’s campaign.

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Again, to be clear, the NSA was only slightly less sure of this than the CIA and FBI, but ultimately, other than the confidence level, they were all in agreement.



I am not saying the interference did not get him elected it definitely did. I am saying the goal of the interference was to undermine the upcoming HRC presidency.

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I'm sure you did. I hear weird shit coming from weird people too.


As do the rest of us Sam...right here on RFL and most of the weird shit coming out of weird old you.

But tell me Sam...you think it's weird shit coming out of weird people when we have confirmed reports, for over 4 decades, of Donald Trump using a weaponized legal system to rip off vendors, to rip off sub-contractors, to rip off investors, and to manipulate local governments into emminent domain abuses to throw people off their property? Just some weird shit, eh Sam?

WTF is wrong with you? Besides being a closeted trumper.

See below, Sam...it's not a fucking joke, like everything else to you. This is what we are dealing with. See fucking below...are you a Jew or not?

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I am not saying the interference did not get him elected it definitely did. I am saying the goal of the interference was to undermine the upcoming HRC presidency.


The words "clear preference" indicate to me the goal of getting Trump elected was ... wait for it ... a "clear preference" of the Russian government. :roll:

BTW, glen, does it bother you at all that Trump will meet with Putin in a closed door meeting where the only other parties that are present are translators, who will not be taking notes?

BTW2, do you not find it odd that Trump looks more forward to meeting with Putin, than any of our NATO allies? Is there not something bizarre about that?

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Based on what we currently know I do not believe there was any direct collusion between Trump and the Russians.


And yet, there he is, over in Europe at this very moment, attacking NATO, attacking all the allied countries. Yah, he's not in bed with Putin at all :roll: North Korea isn't the enemy. Russia isn't the enemy. Nah, Germany is. :roll:

And yet, all he does is praise Putin and attack Americans and America's allies. Go visit the Putin is Fine thread, or anything other thread with detailed roadmaps about Trump being a Russian asset. I get it, it's denial.

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The words "clear preference" indicate to me the goal of getting Trump elected was ... wait for it ... a "clear preference" of the Russian government. :roll:

BTW, glen, does it bother you at all that Trump will meet with Putin in a closed door meeting where the only other parties that are present are translators, who will not be taking notes?

BTW2, do you not find it odd that Trump looks more forward to meeting with Putin, than any of our NATO allies? Is there not something bizarre about that?



They also had a clesr preference for Sen Sanders and slso helped Jill Stein. They were attempting to undermine HRC.

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And yet, there he is, over in Europe at this very moment, attacking NATO, attacking all the allied countries. Yah, he's not in bed with Putin at all :roll: North Korea isn't the enemy. Russia isn't the enemy. Nah, Germany is. :roll:

And yet, all he does is praise Putin and attack Americans and America's allies. Go visit the Putin is Fine thread, or anything other thread with detailed roadmaps about Trump being a Russian asset. I get it, it's denial.



What all that proves is Trump is not qualified for the job

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What all that proves is Trump is not qualified for the job


No offense, but you're a massive idiot.

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The words "clear preference" indicate to me the goal of getting Trump elected was ... wait for it ... a "clear preference" of the Russian government. :roll:

BTW, glen, does it bother you at all that Trump will meet with Putin in a closed door meeting where the only other parties that are present are translators, who will not be taking notes?

BTW2, do you not find it odd that Trump looks more forward to meeting with Putin, than any of our NATO allies? Is there not something bizarre about that?



Trump is trying to promote Trump. Which is why he is eager to meet with Putin. As for his disrespecting Germany I bet he has an old grudge against them.

Nobody is saying Trump is qualified for the job. But based on what we know today claiming him to be a Russian agent is just plain old partisanship. If he were I believe Mueller would have fast tracked his impeachment

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Don't even bother folks. Glen's made up narratives to protect his feelings are not worth it at this point.

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Nobody is saying Trump is qualified for the job. But based on what we know today claiming him to be a Russian agent is just plain old partisanship. If he were I believe Mueller would have fast tracked his impeachment


No, it's the opposite of partisanship. It's patriotism. There are MANY conservatives that understand what's going on here.

As far as Mueller, this isn't a fucking TV show. This IS being fast tracked. This investigation is moving along at lightening speed. We're talking about a massive investigation here.

You don't believe me? Look at how many prosecutors and lawyers Mueller is adding. They gotta get this right.

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Don't even bother folks. Glen's made up narratives to protect his feelings are not worth it at this point.


Right here in this thread he said no collusion, yet there is a rocky mountain high amount of evidence already known that russia and the trump campaign worked side by side for years.

So people like glen will not fight to save our country, they will fight YOU when you try and save it. Enjoy talking to him while you can, the shove is coming.

November one of two things, like I have said over and over and now Malcolm reminds us of a new one, in areas where D's will win anyway the KGB will hack voting machines and leave a huge trail to actions such as flipping votes to D benefit thus making deplorables go nuts and elections nullified or massive violence.

This is what is going to happen, for sure.

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They also had a clesr preference for Sen Sanders and slso helped Jill Stein. They were attempting to undermine HRC.


And as has been mentioned, Russian tactics are also to divide the left by "the left." Ever see the picture of Stein and General Flynn siting at Putin's table? Wake up dude. Of course they were trying to undermine Hillary. What's your point?

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And as has been mentioned, Russian tactics are also to divide the left by "the left." Ever see the picture of Stein and General Flynn siting at Putin's table? Wake up dude. Of course they were trying to undermine Hillary. What's your point?


Hillary is one of the greatest American LIBERALS of all time, but the propaganda against her starting with the "cookie" incident was overwhelming, hell even MILLIONS of people claiming to be progressives BOUGHT the lies about her.

In one day Hillary and Bill Clinton do more for people in need than Glen and his entire family on this planet COMBINED will do in their LIFETIMES, in fact more than the rump and kushner families will do, but glen and those like him do NOT care. Their brains wont accept that info, and they are not the only ones.

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As do the rest of us Sam...right here on RFL and most of the weird shit coming out of weird old you.

But tell me Sam...you think it's weird shit coming out of weird people when we have confirmed reports, for over 4 decades, of Donald Trump using a weaponized legal system to rip off vendors, to rip off sub-contractors, to rip off investors, and to manipulate local governments into emminent domain abuses to throw people off their property? Just some weird shit, eh Sam?

WTF is wrong with you? Besides being a closeted trumper.

See below, Sam...it's not a fucking joke, like everything else to you. This is what we are dealing with. See fucking below...are you a Jew or not?


Ike, I was commenting on Trump having shot children at a Fantasy camp. It's as bad as that Pizza place conspiracy theory the right wing nutters were trying to pin on Clinton.

Most weird conspiracy theories are a blend of unreal complaints discrediting complaints of real crimes and unsavory behavior. This kind of conspiracy theory often help the miscreant get away with their real misdeeds rather than help bring them before a judge and jury, because it discredits all complaints before them.

This thread is not the place to discuss real Trump crimes and misdeeds because of the crappy fantasy camp overlay. This thread belongs in the trash.


Now Ike about your bullshit statements regarding me:

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