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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:03 am 
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Black Conservative Leaders Call For Paul Ryan to Reprimand Maxine Waters - Ebony

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Black conservative leaders told House Speaker Paul Ryan on Thursday to censure —to publicly reprimand—Rep. Maxine Waters for comments she made last month telling people to harass Trump officials in public, Town Hall reports.

“[Maxine Waters] “is the unchallenged face of the Democratic Party,” Johms Gools of the Victory Christian Center in Charlotte, NC said in a press conference with other Black conservatives. Adding that, “she represents half of the U.S.”

Gools said that Waters should retract her comments about confronting supporters of President Donald Trump.

“Reverse, retract and call for an end to this activity now,” he said.

The president of The Center for Urban Renewal and Education, Star Parker, said in a press conference that Rep. Waters “is not the reflection of black America.”

“The attacks have to stop and the attempt to destroy peoples’ lives is not what this country is about,” Parker said in a statement prior to the press conference. “It stops when Congress acts to rebuke and condemn the comments of Maxine Waters.”


Lol Star Parker. :problem:

These people label themselves "leaders".

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BTW, CJ, your and my fave handkerchief head Jesse Lee Peterson called Brett Kavanaugh a "momma's boy".

I mean ... wow, he talked about his mom in a speech, and gave birth to 2 daughters. (Is that a crime?)

Boy, JLP better not watch Philip Levine's ads (they often feature his nice Jewish mother.) :mrgreen:

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/jess ... -real-man/

Gotta love this guy. You know, I have 99 problems with Brett Kavanaugh, but that sure as f**k isn't one of them.

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BTW, CJ, your and my fave handkerchief head Jesse Lee Peterson called Brett Kavanaugh a "momma's boy".

I mean ... wow, he talked about his mom in a speech, and gave birth to 2 daughters. (Is that a crime?)

Boy, JLP better not watch Philip Levine's ads (they often feature his nice Jewish mother.) :mrgreen:

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/jess ... -real-man/

Gotta love this guy. You know, I have 99 problems with Brett Kavanaugh, but that sure as f**k isn't one of them.


Lol

Well it's funny you should mention JLP because he's the first person I thought of, from his radio show in which he proclaimed that whites should correct blacks. Evidently, he's said this more than once. Until I looked it up and found it on his radio show store, I didn't know he also said so in an episode where he had Kyle Hunt of Renegade Broadcasting on the show.

Hunt is a full-on white ethnonationalist.

Dumb bigots.

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At least one can make some sense of what motivates white conservative republican christians. Black conservative christians? It makes no sense at all.

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At least one can make some sense of what motivates white conservative republican christians. Black conservative christians? It makes no sense at all.


Having been one, it actually makes a lot of sense.

There is a strain of Black politics that likes to trace itself back to Booker T Washington, who they feel is more rooted in populism than his big competitor, WEB DuBois, who in his most famous years was also pretty overtly elitist. One of those effette eggheads Librarian is fond of referring to. :lol: :problem:

I'm not a big fan of Washington, though I do understand what he was up against. I also do have my own critique of this Booker T vs WEB narrative. I'll bracket that for now.

Fast forward to 1980, after the great migrations, after military desegregation (1948), after Brown v Board of Ed (1954), after a bunch of people like my parents and their peers (and their children) actually carrying out these desegregations/integrations. My father also attended a prominent, big-name HBCU on the GI Bill. In 1980, you get Weyrich and Viguerie's The New Right: We're Ready to Lead strategy for far right social conservatives move into the GOP.

This afforded us an unwieldly but ultimately a somewhat more materially stable class standing than both my parents' earlier generations.

Until that point (1980), many Evangelicals and Fundamentalists viewed politics as "the world," i.e. to be ignored and dismissed until Jesus comes.

What Weyrich and Viguerie set out to do was to mobilize conservative Christian resentments against Engel v Vitale (1962) (prayer in schools), Roe v Wade, and the rise of gay rights as we know it. With proto-buppie folks like my parents, with a conservative Christian outlook, it worked.

Switch gears to what was going on with Civil Rights kids like my parents who also were rife for recruitment into rightwing nutjob social conservatism. By the time of The New Right: We're Ready to Lead, The big name televangelists like Billy Graham, the Bakkers, TBN, Pat Robertson, Jerry Fallwell, Robert Schuller and a bunch of others were already well established. We're talking about a propaganda effect that combined with the showmanship of literal carnival barkers. Donald Trump really epitomizes this.

One thing that the antiabortion movement of the 80s did successfully was to overtly appropriate Civil Rights Movement tactics and strategies to bring attention to their cause. Protesting, picketing, getting arrested, notifying the press beforehand, getting their pictures in the papers getting arrested, etc. Also, something that they continue to do now: combine that with legal challenges at the state level to affect policy at the national level.

Switch gears yet again to a trend in American Christianity post WW2: Protestants leaving the mainline denominations for Evangelical and specifically Pentecostal and Charismatic churches which had been growing exponentially from their foundations right around the turn of the century. If it's any bunch that was doing "multiculturalism" on the right wing, it's the Charismatics.

Charismatic Pentecostals rose to prominence thanks to televangelism. An interesting historical fact: Pentecostal/Charismatic televangelists like Oral Roberts made names for themselves with their integrated tent meetings traveling through the south. This was in the 50s. It earned them a loyal following, if only because Pentecostalism began in African-American churches, anyway. So there is a deep symbiology with these groups that might not be immediately observable to people outside these traditions.

To bring it all home, right around the turn of the century was also right at the height of Booker T vs WEB. You get these people like the folks mentioned in the OP, Victory Christian Center of Charlotte, NC. "Christian Centers" are Charismatic megachurches, people exactly like my parents. So it's not a surprise to me that it's these folks, led by Charismatic Black conservatives, calling for Paul Ryan to vindicate their resentments against liberal politics and definitely against fellow African Americans who are targets of conservative movements.

To simplify all of this, African-American conservatives exist, and for valid rationales even if they end up being bad reasons. Today, they're typically the Black contingent of the Trump Evangelicals. They're typically Pentecostal/Charismatics as opposed to the denominations people like my parents left, the National Baptist Convention, African Methodist Episcopal Church, and such. Like their white 81%er cohorts, they are equally lost in a moral and social morass of their own making. Now they get to defend a white nationalist abuser of women, whose adminitration literally cages infants and sends toddlers in front of judgeso. Good luck to them with that. :problem:

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Ike Bana wrote:
At least one can make some sense of what motivates white conservative republican christians. Black conservative christians? It makes no sense at all.


people is different. they have different thoughts and ideas and experiences. though we all have shared humanity not everyone approaches it the same.

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BTW, CJ, your and my fave handkerchief head Jesse Lee Peterson called Brett Kavanaugh a "momma's boy".

I mean ... wow, he talked about his mom in a speech, and gave birth to 2 daughters. (Is that a crime?)

Boy, JLP better not watch Philip Levine's ads (they often feature his nice Jewish mother.) :mrgreen:

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/jess ... -real-man/

Gotta love this guy. You know, I have 99 problems with Brett Kavanaugh, but that sure as f**k isn't one of them.

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