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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... 778053002/

I am about done for the night so this is going to be a hit and run for now.

There have been many news stories written about the justice department reopening the Till murder case. Most of those stories have had pictures. Those pictures have not been of the famous photo of Till in his casket.

His mother was brave enough to have his coffin open. I believe it was Jet magazine that was brave enough to publish the photo of Till in his coffin.

Today's press has no such bravery. By not publishing the photo people, especially younger people do not know and will not learn the extent of what happened to Till or the extent to what was happening to African Americans at that time.

To read what happened to that poor young man is one thing. Seeing the photo of what happened brings home the actual brutality. Our press IMO is doing a disservice to Till, his memory, his family and to history.

Shame on them for not having the bravery that Till's mother and Jet Magazine had so many years ago.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 7:33 pm 
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And Trump and the Republicans want to bring that brutality back - and much worse. You really need to think about which side you're on, glen.

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I'm glad no pictures of Emmitt Till have been posted along with the story of reopening the case.

Like the images of the little kids separated from their parents and in cages and detention center, it is porn for conservative whites.

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Emmitt Till did not do a damn thing. The Woman admits that.

His death was the trigger for Modern Day Civil Rights Movement.

Narrow minded Southern White Racists. Lowest of low.

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Emmitt Till did not do a damn thing. The Woman admits that.

His death was the trigger for Modern Day Civil Rights Movement.

Narrow minded Southern White Racists. Lowest of low.



Agree, I dont know what will come of reopening the case. But, at the very least it will teach another generation about Till.

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And glen is proud to a narrow-minded White Southern Racist.

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Agree, I dont know what will come of reopening the case. But, at the very least it will teach another generation about Till.

Why? So that conservatives will know what Trump's talking about when he says "Make America Great Again"?


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I posted about this elsewhere and said I hope it's not being reopened by this DOJ to say Till deserved what he got.

Then there's this.

Duke scholar, who revealed a lie in the Emmett Till case, calls new investigation ‘a political show’ - Charlotte Observer

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Author Timothy Tyson dismissed the Justice Department’s reopening of the infamous Emmett Till civil rights murder case Thursday, calling it an “utterly cynical, completely hypocritical political show” by the Trump administration and the Justice Department.

His remarks came after The Associated Press revealed Thursday morning that the Justice Department is reinvestigating Till’s slaying in Mississippi after receiving “new information,” according to a federal report sent annually to lawmakers under a law that bears Till’s name.

The report issued in late March doesn’t indicate what that information might be, The AP reports. The case had been closed since 2007.

But Tyson, a senior research scholar at Duke’s Center for Documentary Studies, broke the long silence on the case last year with his book “The Blood of Emmett Till,” which many in civil rights circles credited with triggering the Justice Department’s move.

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It’s unclear what new charges could result from a renewed investigation, said Tucker Carrington, a professor at the University of Mississippi law school, The Associated Press reports.


Conspiracy or murder charges could be filed if anyone still alive is shown to have been involved, he said, but too much time likely has passed to prosecute anyone for other crimes, such as lying to investigators or in court.

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Tyson received a copy of Donham’s unpublished memoir “More Than a Wolf Whistle: The Memoir of Carolyn Bryant Donham,” which he gave to UNC-Chapel Hill under the restriction it not published until 2036 or her death, according to The Washington Post.

At the press conference Thursday, he confirmed he had read the memoir.

Tyson said the Till investigation has never really closed. But he knew of no action that might come from pursuing it further other than Donham being charged with perjury, which is not possible due to a long-expired statute of limitations.


Asked if she should be prosecuted, he said, “I don’t know. You’re just going to have to ask an attorney about that.”


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So this is just another stunt, akin to Trump's pardon of Jack Johnson.


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So this is just another stunt, akin to Trump's pardon of Jack Johnson.


Lol and only one group of people will fall for it: the self-same MENSA members who fell for Carolyn Bryant's tall, murderous tale to begin with. :problem:

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Lol and only one group of people will fall for it: the self-same MENSA members who fell for Carolyn Bryant's tall, murderous tale to begin with. :problem:

And guys like glen will use it to pretend they are doing something to make things right, so they can pretend they aren't gunning blacks down everywhere else. glen can play pretend.


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So this is just another stunt, akin to Trump's pardon of Jack Johnson.


I was thinking that but wasn't sure I thought it might be a carry over from the Obama years and had more of a legit purpose. Still if it educates the next generation on how things were that will be a good thing.

Sidebar; I do not agree with your assessment that the GOP wants to go back to those days.

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And guys like glen will use it to pretend they are doing something to make things right, so they can pretend they aren't gunning blacks down everywhere else. glen can play pretend.



OMG what a thing to say. I guess there is no gutter to low for you to crawl in.

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I was thinking that but wasn't sure I thought it might be a carry over from the Obama years and had more of a legit purpose. Still if it educates the next generation on how things were that will be a good thing.

Mother Jones said it best; "Mourn for the dead, but fight like hell for the living".

We're getting murders every day; We need to worry about them, not Emmett Till.
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Sidebar; I do not agree with your assessment that the GOP wants to go back to those days.

Of course they do. That's why these "very good people" are marching:

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This is what your man Donald Trump is giving us. White Nationalism is on the rise again. The Emmett Till investigation is just a distraction.


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OMG what a thing to say. I guess there is no gutter to low for you to crawl in.

You need to decide which side you are on, glen. Every time it comes up you scream "Chicago" and "Detroit".

Are you with the racists or not?


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And guys like glen will use it to pretend they are doing something to make things right, so they can pretend they aren't gunning blacks down everywhere else. glen can play pretend.

Maybe I was too harsh there, but goddamn it, glen, you're carrying the white supremacist's water. You play their game. You scream "Chicago!" and "Detroit!" as if blacks are a criminal class.

Why do you do such things, if you're a better man than that?


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Maybe I was too harsh there, but goddamn it, glen, you're carrying the white supremacist's water. You play their game. You scream "Chicago!" and "Detroit!" as if blacks are a criminal class.

Why do you do such things, if you're a better man than that?


Because the entire premise from the left that the evil white man is the greatest threat to American is just as wrong as a racist blaming black people for our troubles.

In truth we have no one greatest threat other maybe than people being intolerant of one another. What is our biggest threat would be a great thread and could led to a great conversation. Other than the stereotypical stuff.

Maybe our greatest threat is people on the left who believe 100% of everything they want is the right way to go and 100% of everything people on the right want is not only wrong but evil.

Along with those on the right who believe the exact same thing about the LW position.

Both the right and the left have some very good ideas that should be implemented to one degree or another. But as long as news corporations and individuals get rich by creating conflict between the two sides it will never happen.

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Because the entire premise from the left that the evil white man is the greatest threat to American is just as wrong as a racist blaming black people for our troubles.

In truth we have no one greatest threat other maybe than people being intolerant of one another. What is our biggest threat would be a great thread and could led to a great conversation. Other than the stereotypical stuff.

Maybe our greatest threat is people on the left who believe 100% of everything they want is the right way to go and 100% of everything people on the right want is not only wrong but evil.

Along with those on the right who believe the exact same thing about the LW position.

Both the right and the left have some very good ideas that should be implemented to one degree or another. But as long as news corporations and individuals get rich by creating conflict between the two sides it will never happen.

And you've bought into it. You've fought Black Lives Matter all along; you scream "Chicago!" and "Detroit!" as if it proves that blacks can't be trusted to do anything right. You swear up and down that lynching was very rare, and that blacks lie about it.

Trump is using racism to destroy our nation, and you keep on his side.

If you believe what you just wrote, and didn't do it to distract, then you need to look in a fucking mirror. But then, that would require a conscience.


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Because the entire premise from the left that the evil white man is the greatest threat to American is just as wrong as a racist blaming black people for our troubles.


It's not the same, and not even related.

"Black people" have never held political or legislative power that conservative whites have. NEVER.

"Black people" have had ONE president out of 45.

"Black people" have NEVER burnt down white parts of town, or formed paramilitary vigilante groups in league with the police and sherrifs

"Black people" have NEVER burned integrated buses on the same interstate highways we all pay taxes to maintain

"Black people" have NEVER excluded you from all-Black schools, colleges, or universities...that was done by conservative whites and conservative white government

"Black people" have NEVER excluded you from all-Black neighborhoods...that was done by conservative whites and conservative white government

"Black people" have NEVER cordoned you off into segregated military...that was done by conservative whites and conservative white government

"Black people" have NEVER stopped you from emigrating from Europe to this country. The people stopping other Europeans (and everybody else on planet earth) from immigrating here are -- wait for it....here it comes... -- conservative whites

"Black people" are not currently propping up zero-tolerance immigration policies resulting in separating infants and toddlers from their parents because they're immigrants.

Give you one guess which crop of geniuses are behind this latest iteration of genocidal behavior.

Your confederate way of life, despite the unearned benefits granted you versus everyone else by the federal government, makes white conservatives easy targets for exploitation by hostile foreign governments like the Russian government.

And yet, you continue in your 400 year habit of blaming us for all your ceaseless miseries. Wonder why that is. I'm guessing it's because you know the facts: conservative whites are the most lethal group of people in this hemisphere, and you always have been. Especially the males.

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Well no, in truth, zero-tolerance is, by definition, intolerance.

What are you doing to stop it?

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And you've bought into it. You've fought Black Lives Matter all along; you scream "Chicago!" and "Detroit!" as if it proves that blacks can't be trusted to do anything right. You swear up and down that lynching was very rare, and that blacks lie about it.

Trump is using racism to destroy our nation, and you keep on his side.

If you believe what you just wrote, and didn't do it to distract, then you need to look in a fucking mirror. But then, that would require a conscience.


I agree with much of the "lw agenda" to a certain extent. I also believe that the far left agenda would destroy our country. But, I do not think those folks are evil or have a personal vendetta against our nation. I believe they are people whose hearts are in the right place but, are just wrong.

On the other hand Ive heard from you as well as others here that not only do you disagree with 100% of anything conservative. That conservatives are evil people who only want to kill gays and blacks and want to destroy our nation because they hate it .

Now which opinion sounds less extreme yours or mine? My dad was born in 1927 and used to use the words Pot and LSD in the same sentence. Todays liberals are much like my dad. as they use names like Mitt Romney or W Bush or McConnell or Ryan and Hitler in the same sentence.

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It's not the same, and not even related.

"Black people" have never held political or legislative power that conservative whites have. NEVER.

"Black people" have had ONE president out of 45.

"Black people" have NEVER burnt down white parts of town, or formed paramilitary vigilante groups in league with the police and sherrifs

"Black people" have NEVER burned integrated buses on the same interstate highways we all pay taxes to maintain

"Black people" have NEVER excluded you from all-Black schools, colleges, or universities...that was done by conservative whites and conservative white government

"Black people" have NEVER excluded you from all-Black neighborhoods...that was done by conservative whites and conservative white government

"Black people" have NEVER cordoned you off into segregated military...that was done by conservative whites and conservative white government

"Black people" have NEVER stopped you from emigrating from Europe to this country. The people stopping other Europeans (and everybody else on planet earth) from immigrating here are -- wait for it....here it comes... -- conservative whites

"Black people" are not currently propping up zero-tolerance immigration policies resulting in separating infants and toddlers from their parents because they're immigrants.

Give you one guess which crop of geniuses are behind this latest iteration of genocidal behavior.

Your confederate way of life, despite the unearned benefits granted you versus everyone else by the federal government, makes white conservatives easy targets for exploitation by hostile foreign governments like the Russian government.

And yet, you continue in your 400 year habit of blaming us for all your ceaseless miseries. Wonder why that is. I'm guessing it's because you know the facts: conservative whites are the most lethal group of people in this hemisphere, and you always have been. Especially the males.



Well no, in truth, zero-tolerance is, by definition, intolerance.

What are you doing to stop it?



you have asked me that so many times and everytime I answer you it seems no matter what I say it is always going to be the wrong answer or at least not the one you want to hear. I have no clue as for what you are looking for and rather than to list the things I do and have done in my personal life, only to have them degraded and made fun of by folks here. I believe this time I will pass on further explanation at this time.

Less I hear another round of nonsense directed at whatever I say.

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That conservatives are evil people who only want to kill gays and blacks and want to destroy our nation because they hate it .

Now which opinion sounds less extreme yours or mine?


Yours. Conservative whites have a history of doing exactly this.

Given this history, there is no reason to trust anything coming out of white conservatives' mouths. There never was in the 20th/Jim Crow century, there wasn't during the Bush43/Iraq War/Patriot Act era, and there certainly isn't today, now that Donald Trump is the standard-bearer for the Republican Party.

Then, we look at how you guys treat each other, starting with your own family members.

So it's no wonder that you guys are totally behind this administration's zero-tolerance immigration policies. Conservative whites are the walking embodiment of intolerance; always have been.

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I agree with much of the "lw agenda" to a certain extent. I also believe that the far left agenda would destroy our country. But, I do not think those folks are evil or have a personal vendetta against our nation. I believe they are people whose hearts are in the right place but, are just wrong.

On the other hand Ive heard from you as well as others here that not only do you disagree with 100% of anything conservative. That conservatives are evil people who only want to kill gays and blacks and want to destroy our nation because they hate it .

Now which opinion sounds less extreme yours or mine? My dad was born in 1927 and used to use the words Pot and LSD in the same sentence. Todays liberals are much like my dad. as they use names like Mitt Romney or W Bush or McConnell or Ryan and Hitler in the same sentence.

Here you are again, trying to mainstream Trump, telling us how he's normal.

The days of mainstream conservatives are over. The days of Eisenhower are over. That was mainstream conservatism.

Hell, Reagan was the the extreme right, and now he's what you guys consider a far left extremism. After all, he gave Mexicans amnesty.

Now you have a party that thinks that Trump's biggest hero is a KGB thug, and you want us to act like that's normal.

And don't tell me about Mitt Romney being a mainstream conservative. He wanted to be Trump's Secretary of State. And now, he's running as a Trump conservative for Senator.

So don't give me your bullshit.


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you have asked me that so many times and everytime I answer you it seems no matter what I say it is always going to be the wrong answer or at least not the one you want to hear. I have no clue as for what you are looking for and rather than to list the things I do and have done in my personal life, only to have them degraded and made fun of by folks here. I believe this time I will pass on further explanation at this time.

Less I hear another round of nonsense directed at whatever I say.

You prove your views by what you say. Like when you tell us that lynching was extremely rare, and that the NAACP lies about it. Or when you scream about Affirmative Action. Or when you try to normalize Donald Trump. Or when you defend Charlottesville, and say that there isn't a resurgence in white nationalism.

That's what gives you away, glen.


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you have asked me that so many times and everytime I answer you it seems no matter what I say it is always going to be the wrong answer or at least not the one you want to hear.


You have never ONCE provided an equivalent to any of these bullet points. You haven't, because you're not capable.

I'm going to keep on asking, though, because it's still a current inquiry with implications for present-day, ages-old white conservative behavior in the form of Trump administration policies. So just get used to it, until you are up for the intellectual challenge of providing any semblance of an actual answer.

Thing is, you already know the answer, though, as does everyone else: there are NO "Black" equivalents to these public policies and laws put in place by conservative whites.

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Well this is a flat-out white conservative/good German lie, and the reason why nobody trusts conservative whites or good Germans.

It's plain as day what your challenge is when confronted by the history of white conservative policy and law. All of those bullet points are public policies and law decisions, by and for conservative whites.

Your challenge, since every week you try and claim some equivalence between white and black antipathy, is to provide the "black" equivalents of any time we've devised these laws against you.

Pro tip: we NEVER have. So find a different line of argument since that one will never work for you.

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