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It's pretty obvious from the facts that the Saudis made a deal with Putin. I suspect back-channel dealings with their mutual buddy drumpf, but circumstances and fog of war make that assertion pure conjecture on my part.

Biden is in LA. There's a do in Brentwood tonight. Usually, vast sums of money change hands at those. I suspect that some of it will come from former Republicans. Democrats didn't usually rate these money baths in the gated guarded parts of town, but I suspect that a lot of former GOP donors have had it with the goons that replaced Ray Gun's sycophants.
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ZoWie wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 11:42 am It's pretty obvious from the facts that the Saudis made a deal with Putin. I suspect back-channel dealings with their mutual buddy drumpf, but circumstances and fog of war make that assertion pure conjecture on my part.

Biden is in LA. There's a do in Brentwood tonight. Usually, vast sums of money change hands at those. I suspect that some of it will come from former Republicans. Democrats didn't usually rate these money baths in the gated guarded parts of town, but I suspect that a lot of former GOP donors have had it with the goons that replaced Ray Gun's sycophants.
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For once, I could see an image on this board. Yes, that's it, and note drumpf lurking in the background. There's as much of a smoking gun as this discussion needs.
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Glennfs wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 11:26 am Not necessarily but if the liberal wing which is the majority of the democratic party I'm office gets power I firmly believe that their policies will unintentionally destroy our union.
As for our current economic situation we can see that our current administration hasn't a clue how to fix or repair it
It’s pretty simple really. If you think the country is headed in the right direction. If you believe your life is better. Vote accordingly. If however, you don’t believe the country is headed in the right direction, vote for a change. I wouldn’t base my vote on claims by anonymous posters on a discussion board.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 12:02 pm It’s pretty simple really. If you think the country is headed in the right direction. If you believe your life is better. Vote accordingly. If however, you don’t believe the country is headed in the right direction, vote for a change. I wouldn’t base my vote on claims by anonymous posters on a discussion board.
And the only way you think the country is going is for the GOP. Hell, you voted Republican even when Bush completely cratered the economy. So it doesn’t matter WHAT happens, you vote GOP.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 12:02 pm It’s pretty simple really. If you think the country is headed in the right direction. If you believe your life is better. Vote accordingly. If however, you don’t believe the country is headed in the right direction, vote for a change. I wouldn’t base my vote on claims by anonymous posters on a discussion board.
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Drak wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 12:05 pm Says the guy giving advice on an anonymous message board.
Note that none of them even bothered to talk back about the fact that the market and economy ALWAYS does better under Dems...
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Libertas wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 12:13 pm Note that none of them even bothered to talk back about the fact that the market and economy ALWAYS does better under Dems...
Not only do they ignore than, they vote for Trump backed election deniers and seditionists, to "push the country in the right direction."
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Drak wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 12:22 pm Not only do they ignore than, they vote for Trump backed election deniers and seditionists, to "push the country in the right direction."
Since we know for a FACT the economy and market ALWAYS does better under dems, we must conclude the reason they vote the way they do is racism and bigotry.
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Libertas wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 12:13 pm Note that none of them even bothered to talk back about the fact that the market and economy ALWAYS does better under Dems...
The truth is the economy has always done better when we have had a split government with the various sides working together in a spirit of compromise.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Oct 14, 2022 7:01 am The truth is the economy has always done better when we have had a split government with the various sides working together in a spirit of compromise.
In other words before the internet
:? the heck does the internet have to do with anything?

25 years later you still don’t even know how to actually use the internet.

Compromising with oppressors is not compromise, by the way. The American right wing are historical, legendary oppressors.
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carmenjonze wrote: Fri Oct 14, 2022 7:05 am :? the heck does the internet have to do with anything?

25 years later you still don’t even know how to actually use the internet.

Compromising with oppressors is not compromise, by the way. The American right wing are historical, legendary oppressors.
Because prior to the internet our elected leaders could compromise and it wasn't a big deal.
In today's world if a liberal compromises with a conservative or vice versa they are immediately taken to task on the internet as well talk radio as being either a rino or a Dino.
Especially by people like you.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Oct 14, 2022 8:21 am Because prior to the internet our elected leaders could compromise and it wasn't a big deal.
In today's world if a liberal compromises with a conservative or vice versa they are immediately taken to task on the internet as well talk radio as being either a rino or a Dino.
Especially by people like you.
You're no different.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Oct 14, 2022 8:21 am Because prior to the internet our elected leaders could compromise ...
Compromising with the people trying to destroy you is not compromise. Can't blame the internet for that...this was the case long before the internet. Ask any civil rights leader...I mean, the ones that conservative whites didn't kill off or mass-murder.

You are allowed to spew your stupid rightwing propaganda on a liberal board that you then turn around and label intolerant. :?

Find another scapegoat for your failure to re-establish rightwing authoritarian government.
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It's not the internet, Glenn, it's the extremists on your side. It started with Rush Limbaugh, and his acolyte Newt Gingrich. Rush is the one that threw Colin Powell out of the GOP. It's the extremists on the right that have thrown all the moderates out of the GOP. There are nothing but extremists left in the GOP.

Whereas the Dems are a big tent party, who allows moderates in, and in fact, they are the leadership of the party. Starting with Joe Biden.
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gounion wrote: Fri Oct 14, 2022 8:29 am It's not the internet, Glenn, it's the extremists on your side. It started with Rush Limbaugh, and his acolyte Newt Gingrich. Rush is the one that threw Colin Powell out of the GOP. It's the extremists on the right that have thrown all the moderates out of the GOP. There are nothing but extremists left in the GOP.

Whereas the Dems are a big tent party, who allows moderates in, and in fact, they are the leadership of the party. Starting with Joe Biden.
No the democratic party isn't a big tent party. As for Biden he is a holdover from the past.
But, don't let me be the one to convince you there is no Santa. You keep believing your bullshit.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Oct 14, 2022 8:32 am No the democratic party isn't a big tent party. As for Biden he is a holdover from the past.
But, don't let me be the one to convince you there is no Santa. You keep believing your bullshit.
Unlike you, I'm an active member of my party. I know what I'm talking about from experience.

You don't. You've dreamed this all up in your mind. You've never been anything but a Keyboard Kommando.

Like, you're the one that believed that Obama was a far-left extremists, when he proved in his administration that he was a pro-business moderate instead.
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carmenjonze wrote: Fri Oct 14, 2022 8:26 am Compromising with the people trying to destroy you is not compromise. Can't blame the internet for that...this was the case long before the internet. Ask any civil rights leader...I mean, the ones that conservative whites didn't kill off or mass-murder.

You are allowed to spew your stupid rightwing propaganda on a liberal board that you then turn around and label intolerant. :?

Find another scapegoat for your failure to re-establish rightwing authoritarian government.
And you believe that because of the internet. Also thanks to the internet people like MTG and AOC get a platform to spew their stupidity.
In the past when a person like Dennis Kucinich were elected they simply sighed gave him a seat on the back bench and ignored him.
If the boy mayor were 55 in today's world he would be a party leader and probably a front runner for the presidential nomination
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Oct 14, 2022 8:32 am No the democratic party isn't a big tent party. As for Biden he is a holdover from the past.
But, don't let me be the one to convince you there is no Santa. You keep believing your bullshit.
Hmph.

You're stupid enough to choose the party of death and fascism of your own free will, then call it "swing" voting.

This makes you the perfect target market for people like Steve Bannon and his acolyte, Ralph Norman.
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gounion wrote: Fri Oct 14, 2022 8:35 am Unlike you, I'm an active member of my party. I know what I'm talking about from experience.

You don't. You've dreamed this all up in your mind. You've never been anything but a Keyboard Kommando.

Like, you're the one that believed that Obama was a far-left extremists, when he proved in his administration that he was a pro-business moderate instead.
And you believe that RBG was a mainstream moderate
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Oct 14, 2022 8:36 am And you believe that because of the internet. Also thanks to the internet people like MTG and AOC get a platform to spew their stupidity.
In the past when a person like Dennis Kucinich were elected they simply sighed gave him a seat on the back bench and ignored him.
If the boy mayor were 55 in today's world he would be a party leader and probably a front runner for the presidential nomination
The leader of your party is Donald Trump. 'Nuff said.
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carmenjonze wrote: Fri Oct 14, 2022 8:36 am Hmph.

You're stupid enough to choose the party of death and fascism of your own free will, then call it "swing" voting.

This makes you the perfect target market for people like Steve Bannon and his acolyte, Ralph Norman.
Alex the answer is things people believe because of the internet
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Oct 14, 2022 8:36 am And you believe that because of the internet.
:?

... he says, posting on the internet ...
Also thanks to the internet people like MTG and AOC
False equivalence.

You cannot name even one vote or policy position of MTG's that differs from Donald Trump's, or Ralph Norman's, because their politics and policies are identical.

And you wiillingly vote for it.

Find a better scapegoat for your party being in a tailspin, driven by fascists like Donald Trump and the Freecom Caucus. Start with the mirror.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Oct 14, 2022 8:38 am Alex the answer is things people believe because of the internet
...he said, on the internet.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Oct 14, 2022 8:37 am And you believe that RBG was a mainstream moderate
She WAS a moderate that voted very often with her good friend Tony.

What about being a Justice that believes in women's equality under the law, and the rights of women to decide about her own body makes her an extremist?

Before being a justice, she argued cases before the Supreme Court that convinced an all-male court that women DID have rights. You should REALLY look into her history instead of believing all the shit that Rush Limbaugh said about her.
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