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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:06 pm 
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Y'all know I have no love for the Catholic church. Of course I'm most familiar with the era from Pius XIII to Ratzinger, a history as fucking sick as any in the church. But this stuff going on with Francis...I'm having a big problem with this. Suddenly there are demands from various Vatican "officials", Cardinals and others for his resignation for "looking the other way." Are these fucking people serious? Accusing Francis of looking the other way after Wojtyla spent almost 30 years looking the other way, after Ratzinger's abuses, after Pius XII basically collaborated with the fucking nazis by refusing to speak out about the death camps...and these people want Francis to resign?

What it happening here is that the conservative hard liners in the church are pissed off about Francis' more liberal direction, including his more open attitude (not fully embracing of course, but some movement) on LGBTQ populations. What this is about is the hardcore assholes in the College of Cardinals who have decided that the problem is not pedophilia but homosexuality. That gay priests are the ones abusing young boys. "Isn't that convenient" says the church lady.

Of course all the data shows that worldwide over 80% of males who have molested young boys are heterosexual (a small percentage bisexual) and the majority of these men are married and have children of their own. Rape is not sexual behavior, it's violent behavior acted out sexually.

But we got a chance to get rid of Francis so let's strike while the iron is hot. Quite a few liberal catholics have been predicting the hard liners would come up with something since the guy became Pope.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:06 pm 
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Like Ratzi the Nazi, JP2 and any before them didn't know. Bullshit, they knew. The cardinals bitching are the same cardinals that covered it up. Perhaps not individual ones but as a whole. It is not group guilt per se. It is turning a blind eye.

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The Vatican, it turns out...is more like a mini-USA than we could have imagined. Conservative women haters, gay haters, evidence buriers, etc., etc.

And of course the Vatican is loaded with those good old family values like we have here: Alcoholism, abuse, and incest.

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The Vatican has always been that way, except for the times when it was worse. There's one conspiracy theory that a pope was poisoned because the curia caught wind of his plans to change it. True? No way to know. The Vatican keeps its secrets better than anyone else in the world.

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Be careful in the Vatican Archives. :D

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And brush up your Latin first.

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