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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:31 pm 
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Allow me to point out only one U.S. political party has that as a goal.

This is a quote from Paul Weyrich, founder of Heritage Foundation and Free Congress Foundation, in 1980. Taken from Wikiquote.
'So many of our Christians have what I call the goo-goo syndrome: good government. They want everybody to vote. I don't want everybody to vote. Elections are not won by a majority of people, they never have been from the beginning of our country and they are not now. As a matter of fact, our leverage in the elections quite candidly goes up as the voting populace goes down.'

I know "both parties are the same" but they are not. I could quote dozens of Democrats who are pledged to making it easier to vote, for extending early voting, same day registration (motor voter), and extending the franchise. Yes - when more people turn out, Democrats do better. Weyrich knew it, and so do we.

Even still, it's the right thing to do.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:49 pm 
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Just another piece of proof that Christian's are hypocrites. They dont want fully representational government. They dont want democracy. They don't want equal rights for all.

And they're not pro-life. They do not believe in the sanctity of all life. They are anti-choice. They oppose medical confidentiality for women. They are -anti women. The alt-right hates women just as much as it hates people of color.

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I know it's primarily one party, but most on the outside don't disseminate it.

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Stacey Abrams: GOP opponent creating 'miasma of fear' over voting in Georgia

As a crisis of potential voter suppression in Georgia deepened, the Democratic candidate for governor accused her opponent of seeking to disenfranchise people of color and women by creating a “miasma of fear” around voting.

Stacey Abrams, who if elected would become the first African American woman governor of any state, is running against Georgia’s Republican secretary of state, Brian Kemp.

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Kemp reeks of Racism.

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Hmm, which party not only does not try and prevent a SINGLE vote but works overtime to try and assure ALL can vote?

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Hmm, which party not only does not try and prevent a SINGLE vote but works overtime to try and assure ALL can vote?


Which one? if you find one like that Id like to vote for them

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:41 pm 
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And there it is, what did I tell you folks.

Democratic party does not have a single act at least in the last 30 years of preventing voting yet you are reading what I am reading.

infuriating

you see I think this person works for KGB...because whether they do or not results are the same, get it yet folks?

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And there it is, what did I tell you folks.

Democratic party does not have a single act at least in the last 30 years of preventing voting yet you are reading what I am reading.

infuriating

you see I think this person works for KGB...because whether they do or not results are the same, get it yet folks?


reminds me of a comment from the onion

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“Hell yeah. I love being scolded and warned.”


https://www.theonion.com/bill-and-hillary-clinton-announce-joint-tour-1829720014

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Which one? if you find one like that Id like to vote for them


https://democrats.org/issues/voting-rights/

Democrats have a long and proud history of fighting for voting rights that continues to this day. Organizers and activists have fought and bled for their right to vote, and Lyndon B. Johnson signing the Voting Rights Act in 1965 was the culmination of all of their hard work and sacrifice.

The right to vote is fundamental — it is the right that protects and expands all other rights. That’s why the Democratic Party has continuously remained dedicated to making it easier and more convenient for Americans of all backgrounds to cast their ballot.

We adopted the boldest and most pro-voter platform in history — calling for expanding early voting and vote-by-mail, implementing universal automatic voter registration and same day voter registration, ending partisan and racial gerrymandering, and making Election Day a national holiday.

We do this by supporting candidates for state secretary of state and state legislative seats who want to expand voting rights. And we do this by supporting efforts in all 50 states to ensure that every eligible citizen can register and vote, and that each vote is accurately counted.

This work is all the more important in the face of a cynical Republican strategy to make it more difficult to ordinary Americans to vote.

In the wake of the Supreme Court gutting a key provision of the Voting Rights Act, 14 states passed or implemented some form of voting restriction. These actions included eliminating same-day registration, reducing early voting, prohibiting out-of-precinct voting, and imposing strict photo ID laws.

During this same time period, however, 37 states passed election laws or regulations expanding access to the ballot box, such as automatic registration, online voter registration, same-day registration, expanding early voting, expanding accepted forms of identification, or improving data through partnerships such as Pew’s ERIC program.

It is important to stop and recognize these achievements because they represent the culmination of years of advocacy and coalition building by our party leaders, elected officials, and core constituents:

Registration: California, Connecticut, Oregon, West Virginia and Vermont adopted laws automatically registering voters when they get a driver’s license and allowing them to opt-out if they wish. Oregon registered over 250,000 new voters in 2016 and 42% of those who were automatically registered cast a ballot in November 2016. California alone may automatically register up to 7 million citizens – almost the equivalent of all the votes cast in the State of New York in November 2016.
Same-Day Registration: Colorado, Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, Utah, and Vermont passed same-day registration – allowing voters to both register and vote at the same time.
Online Voter Registration: Florida, DC, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nebraska, New Mexico, Oklahoma and Pennsylvania passed online voter registration. As of June 2016, 31 states now offer online voter registration and another 7 have passed laws authorizing online voter registration.
Modernized Motor Voter: California sent voter registration applications to nearly 3.8 million people who had applied for health insurance through the state’s healthcare exchange.
Expanded Early Voting: Florida, Illinois, Massachusetts, Maryland and Utah all either piloted, introduced, or expanded early voting.
Identification Laws: New Hampshire, Oklahoma, and Virginia added to the list of acceptable forms of identification when voting or otherwise made their voter ID law less restrictive.

The 2016 election was the first in in 50 years without the full protection of the Voting Rights Act, and 14 states had brand new voting restrictions put in place for this presidential election. Republicans passed laws eliminating same-day registration, reducing early voting periods, eliminating pre-registration, not counting certain provisional ballots, and imposing a new voter ID law in states like Alabama, Arizona, Indiana, Georgia, Mississippi, Nebraska, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia and Wisconsin.

These laws have a real effect on our election outcomes, and disproportionately affect women, communities of color, young people, the elderly, low-income individuals, and disabled voters, as well as military members and veterans.

We saw this in Wisconsin, where as many as 300,000 voters didn’t have the photo ID that was required to vote. The margin of victory in Wisconsin was only 23,000 votes. We saw this again in North Carolina, where there were 158 fewer early voting locations in 40 counties with large African-American populations — African American turnout in North Carolina was down 16% from 2012.

As Republican politicians try to make it harder to vote, Democrats are working to expand access to the polls. Whether we are hitting the streets to register voters, engaging with local election officials, passing commonsense laws, or taking our fights against discriminatory voting laws to court, we won’t stop working to promote a system of elections that is accessible, open, and fair. As Congressman and Civil Rights leader John Lewis says, “the vote is the most powerful nonviolent tool or instrument in a democratic society. We must use it.”

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I know, talk is cheap, it's why I highlighted actual achievements.

BTW, in my own state, Democrats fought to make college campuses early voting locations, Republicans fought against it.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:28 pm 
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ProfessorX wrote:

https://democrats.org/issues/voting-rights/

Democrats have a long and proud history of fighting for voting rights that continues to this day. Organizers and activists have fought and bled for their right to vote, and Lyndon B. Johnson signing the Voting Rights Act in 1965 was the culmination of all of their hard work and sacrifice.

The right to vote is fundamental — it is the right that protects and expands all other rights. That’s why the Democratic Party has continuously remained dedicated to making it easier and more convenient for Americans of all backgrounds to cast their ballot.

We adopted the boldest and most pro-voter platform in history — calling for expanding early voting and vote-by-mail, implementing universal automatic voter registration and same day voter registration, ending partisan and racial gerrymandering, and making Election Day a national holiday.

We do this by supporting candidates for state secretary of state and state legislative seats who want to expand voting rights. And we do this by supporting efforts in all 50 states to ensure that every eligible citizen can register and vote, and that each vote is accurately counted.

This work is all the more important in the face of a cynical Republican strategy to make it more difficult to ordinary Americans to vote.

In the wake of the Supreme Court gutting a key provision of the Voting Rights Act, 14 states passed or implemented some form of voting restriction. These actions included eliminating same-day registration, reducing early voting, prohibiting out-of-precinct voting, and imposing strict photo ID laws.

During this same time period, however, 37 states passed election laws or regulations expanding access to the ballot box, such as automatic registration, online voter registration, same-day registration, expanding early voting, expanding accepted forms of identification, or improving data through partnerships such as Pew’s ERIC program.

It is important to stop and recognize these achievements because they represent the culmination of years of advocacy and coalition building by our party leaders, elected officials, and core constituents:

Registration: California, Connecticut, Oregon, West Virginia and Vermont adopted laws automatically registering voters when they get a driver’s license and allowing them to opt-out if they wish. Oregon registered over 250,000 new voters in 2016 and 42% of those who were automatically registered cast a ballot in November 2016. California alone may automatically register up to 7 million citizens – almost the equivalent of all the votes cast in the State of New York in November 2016.
Same-Day Registration: Colorado, Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, Utah, and Vermont passed same-day registration – allowing voters to both register and vote at the same time.
Online Voter Registration: Florida, DC, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nebraska, New Mexico, Oklahoma and Pennsylvania passed online voter registration. As of June 2016, 31 states now offer online voter registration and another 7 have passed laws authorizing online voter registration.
Modernized Motor Voter: California sent voter registration applications to nearly 3.8 million people who had applied for health insurance through the state’s healthcare exchange.
Expanded Early Voting: Florida, Illinois, Massachusetts, Maryland and Utah all either piloted, introduced, or expanded early voting.
Identification Laws: New Hampshire, Oklahoma, and Virginia added to the list of acceptable forms of identification when voting or otherwise made their voter ID law less restrictive.

The 2016 election was the first in in 50 years without the full protection of the Voting Rights Act, and 14 states had brand new voting restrictions put in place for this presidential election. Republicans passed laws eliminating same-day registration, reducing early voting periods, eliminating pre-registration, not counting certain provisional ballots, and imposing a new voter ID law in states like Alabama, Arizona, Indiana, Georgia, Mississippi, Nebraska, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia and Wisconsin.

These laws have a real effect on our election outcomes, and disproportionately affect women, communities of color, young people, the elderly, low-income individuals, and disabled voters, as well as military members and veterans.

We saw this in Wisconsin, where as many as 300,000 voters didn’t have the photo ID that was required to vote. The margin of victory in Wisconsin was only 23,000 votes. We saw this again in North Carolina, where there were 158 fewer early voting locations in 40 counties with large African-American populations — African American turnout in North Carolina was down 16% from 2012.

As Republican politicians try to make it harder to vote, Democrats are working to expand access to the polls. Whether we are hitting the streets to register voters, engaging with local election officials, passing commonsense laws, or taking our fights against discriminatory voting laws to court, we won’t stop working to promote a system of elections that is accessible, open, and fair. As Congressman and Civil Rights leader John Lewis says, “the vote is the most powerful nonviolent tool or instrument in a democratic society. We must use it.”

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I know, talk is cheap, it's why I highlighted actual achievements.

BTW, in my own state, Democrats fought to make college campuses early voting locations, Republicans fought against it.


thats impressive the more they do this the more will want to and be enabled to vote for them.

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https://www.memphis.edu/tentcity/

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The website we have chosen to call "Tent City" covers the series of civil rights events that took place in Fayette County, Tennessee from 1959 into the early 1970s. One of those major efforts—registering black residents to vote—led to what was called Tent City. As a result of registering to vote, many black residents were evicted from the sharecropper housing that had been homes to some families for generations. Ultimately, several hundred people had to move into one of two Tent Cities erected on donated land—some living there for more than 2 years. In addition, black residents who registered to vote were blacklisted by whites from purchasing goods and services necessary to survive day to day, such as milk, eggs, fuel, and even medical care.

Although these events took place over 50 years ago, we still face the same struggles for human rights in the U.S. and around the globe. Tent cities seem to pop up whenever less powerful populations are displaced by those with more economic, political, and social means—either to grab the property of the displaced, or as a result of war migration, racial or ethnic massacres, or other civic and political upheaval—including those following natural disasters or economic downturn.

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Georgia purged 107,000 voters just because they haven’t voted recently

Georgia Secretary of State Brian Kemp’s determined strategy to kick people off the state’s voter rolls included making sure 107,000 voters are ineligible simply because they opted not to participate in elections recently.

The news comes as Republican Kemp, running for governor in the state, is under intense scrutiny following an Associated Press report documenting how Kemp’s office was holding up the registrations of over 53,000 voters.

https://shareblue.com/georgia-voter-pur ... rnor-race/


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We Sued Brian Kemp This Morning

This morning we filed a lawsuit against Georgia Secretary of State Brian Kemp for violation of the National Voter Registration Act of 1993.

Our experts found Georgia wrongly purged 340,134 voters. Palast and rights groups filed National Voter Registration Act suit against Kemp to open voter purge files to the public.

https://www.gregpalast.com/we-sued-bria ... s-morning/


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You can't claim "freedom" while seeking to stop people from participating in the democratic process.


For too many conservatives since at lest 1870, getting away with preventing a fair vote IS freedom.

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thats impressive the more they do this the more will want to and be enabled to vote for them.


Did you vote for Jill Stein or other throwaway candidate in the last GE?

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Stein was a put up candidate. She knew what she was doing the whole damn time. Both she and Bernie did all they could to split the Democratic Vote. But for her and Sanders, where would be a Democrat in the White House right now.

Sanders is making noise again about running, but I hope this time the Democrats shut him down fast. We do not him doing his damage again.

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I'm over Bernie.

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I'm over Bernie.


I was over him a long time ago. The problem is that Bernie like the sound of his own voice, and there are still people who do not see him for scam artist he is.

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I think that's unfair.

I don't want him to run in 2020. I don't particularly get why some people choose to sanctify him and ignore that he is a politician like any other. Not that that is necessarily a bad thing. I do not get why some people somehow believe he's the only liberal/progressive/"FDR Democrat" in the Senate. Bull fucking shit, there are plenty of others.

He was not cheated by anyone or anything in 2016. He lost the primaries. I have some bad news - if not for caucuses whose process strikes quite a few people, including me, as small-d un-democratic, he would have done worse. Would he have beaten Trump? We will never know, but people who seem to be certain of this have no evidence to support their position.

Was he a scam artist? Nah. Also, I credit him for pushing certain parts of his agenda into the Democratic platform. And, BTW, for campaigning for Hillary Clinton, and not being a spoilsport who joined Jill Stein in helping Trump do even better.

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carmenjonze wrote:

Did you vote for Jill Stein or other throwaway candidate in the last GE?


I voted for the same candidate you did. I dont cheerlead for corporate to win out over the poor and middleclass though. it was an interesting that people were so bitter and would hound you without knowing who you voted for that year taught me a lot. it didnt matter somehow with the hundreds of millions of dollars spent, all the millions of people involved, the past policys and economics it turned out to be all my fault for holding to my values and disagreeing with business as usual.

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I voted for the same candidate you did. I dont cheerlead for corporate to win out over the poor and middleclass though.


:problem: no one here does. Can we please lay this old canard to rest?

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it was an interesting that people were so bitter and would hound you without knowing who you voted for that year taught me a lot. it didnt matter somehow with the hundreds of millions of dollars spent, all the millions of people involved, the past policys and economics it turned out to be all my fault for holding to my values and disagreeing with business as usual.


Yes observing this martyr complex certainly was interesting.

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:problem: no one here does. Can we please lay this old canard to rest?



Yes observing this martyr complex certainly was interesting.

MC is absurd, no credibility.

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I like anybody who likes Rev. Barber. And Michael Moore.

MC and I may argue over stuff - this is what makes the world go round and round, if we all agreed on everything, life would be soooo boring - I like him.

Anybody whose heroes are the Freedom Riders is a good guy.

Anybody who urges us all to love our enemies with that kind of sincerity has a noble heart.

Lib, I've got no problem with you bashing the cons, but MC is butter on our side of the bread.

He's standing up for the shit upon people of Detroit, and somebody should.

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