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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:33 pm 
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Is this what you mean glen?

https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-go ... 39985.html.

What is the difference between a tax credit working families different than a tax cut to the richest One Percent under 45. Why is one wrong and the other right.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:33 pm 
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:lol:

Do you think a tax credit is the same as a giveaway, or have you just been watching too much Hannity?



A tax credit unlike a tax deduction is indeed the same as writing a check to that tax payer. In this case but not in all cases it would be a giveaway, one we can't afford.

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Either one would have the same horrible result for our country. Putin's would be intentional. Harris' would be because of her exteme leftist beliefs, which I am sure she believes would improve our country.
So of course we would have to go with Harris. As the damage she would do would be repairable.
Hopefully we will never have to suffer from either being the head of our gov't.


Glen I really feel for you. You're in for it and it's grim. In spring of 2021 Kamala Harris will be moving into the White House, measuring the drapes, for new drapes and all of that, and you will be suffering from intense generalized anxiety.


If you want Glen I can show you some really calming things about her. She's awfully together and level headed. Unless you've been following her you would about have to have taken media reports and out of context quotes at face value. That useless junk is worth way less than that.


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Is this what you mean glen?

https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-go ... 39985.html.

What is the difference between a tax credit working families different than a tax cut to the richest One Percent under 45. Why is one wrong and the other right.



You asked for an extreme lefist belief and I showed you one. Now I am and was opposed to President Trump's tax cut for reasons ive explained multiple times


The difference between Senator Harris leftist plan and a tax cut is, a tax cut is letting the person who earned the money keep more of it.
While Senator Harris' plan is a massive giveaway. Taking one person's money and giving it to somebody else.

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A tax credit unlike a tax deduction is indeed the same as writing a check to that tax payer. In this case but not in all cases it would be a giveaway, one we can't afford.


"We" can definitely afford this tax credit, which is pennies.

How much do "we" spend to build your confederate bombs? Rhetorical question. Don't bother with an attempt to answer.

What else you got as far as KH's supposed extreme leftist belief that destroys the country on the same level as the head of a hostile foreign government.

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Glen I really feel for you. You're in for it and it's grim. In spring of 2021 Kamala Harris will be moving into the White House, measuring the drapes, for new drapes and all of that, and you will be suffering from intense generalized anxiety.


If you want Glen I can show you some really calming things about her. She's awfully together and level headed. Unless you've been following her you would about have to have taken media reports and out of context quotes at face value. That useless junk is worth way less than that.


If a person of Senator Harris beliefs are ever going to win the WH I hope it is sooner rather than later. Thst way we can take our beating and young people will learn the true effects of the Socialist Democrat which will in turn become either moderates or conservatives. Neither of whom are welcome in the Democratic Party.

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You asked for an extreme lefist belief and I showed you one.


Her proposal is not an "extreme leftist belief".

Actual "extreme leftists" despise her as much as the typical resentful white conservative.

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Tax credits and deductions are simply two different ways of reducing your tax liability.

If you have a $1000 deduction, and say you would normally owe 30% rate taxes on $21,000 of income, now you only owe it on $20,000 of income.

If you have a $1000 credit, and you are supposed to owe $5000 of taxes, now you only owe $4000.

I hope this was clear. :D

In effect, all she is really doing, BTW, is extending the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC), which already exists, to cover more working & middle class taxpayers. Radical! :rw)

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If a person of Senator Harris beliefs are ever going to win the WH I hope it is sooner rather than later. Thst way we can take our beating and young people will learn the true effects of the Socialist Democrat which will in turn become either moderates or conservatives. Neither of whom are welcome in the Democratic Party.


What "beliefs" are you talking about?

I can't wait for Kamala Harris (D - BLK) to rub your commiebaiting confederate noses in the far-right violent white extremism you all have once again ushered in.

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"We" can definitely afford this tax credit, which is pennies.

How much do "we" spend to build your confederate bombs? Rhetorical question. Don't bother with an attempt to answer.

What else you got as far as KH's supposed extreme leftist belief that destroys the country on the same level as the head of a hostile foreign government.


We have 63 million households earning under 100k.

63 million times 6000 works out to 378 billion. On top of that ypu have to add the single households esrning under 50k. A number I don't have but, will estimate that it would make the total tax credit around 500 billion dollars.

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Looks like we might need to raise taxes again on the wealthy and corporations to make up for that lost revenue, and/or maybe start cutting our bloated military spending budget. :rw)

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Tax credits and deductions are simply two different ways of reducing your tax liability.

If you have a $1000 deduction, and say you would normally owe 30% rate taxes on $21,000 of income, now you only owe it on $20,000 of income.

If you have a $1000 credit, and you are supposed to owe $5000 of taxes, now you only owe $4000.

I hope this was clear. :D

In effect, all she is really doing, BTW, is extending the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC), which already exists, to cover more working & middle class taxpayers. Radical! :rw)



The problem with your example is the rate on 20k is 15pct. 10pct on the first 10 and 20pct on the second 10. Making the tax liability $3000. So under Sen Harris plan the couple would not only not pay $3000 they would recieve a check for $3000. Making the actual cost $6000.

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Looks like we might need to raise taxes again on the wealthy and corporations to make up for that lost revenue, and/or maybe start cutting our bloated military spending budget. :rw)



The problem there is it is our bloated defense spending that keeps our economy afloat. Cut it and hello recession or depression.

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We have 63 million households earning under 100k.

63 million times 6000 works out to 378 billion. On top of that ypu have to add the single households esrning under 50k. A number I don't have but, will estimate that it would make the total tax credit around 500 billion dollars.


"We" can afford whatever resentments-based numbers you come up with.

What else you got as far as KH's supposed extreme leftist "beliefs" that destroys the country on the same level as the head of a hostile foreign government?

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The problem there is it is our bloated defense spending that keeps our economy afloat. Cut it and hello recession or depression.


Any excuse to continue manufacturing your confederate killing machines. :problem:

3rd time asking: What else you got as far as these supposed extreme leftist beliefs of Kamala Harris's that destroy the country on the same level as conspiring with the heads of hostile foreign governments?

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No offense, glen, but for detailed explanation of how Harris' LIFT Act works, I'll refer people to Vox, which even addresses some of its shortcomings.

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2018 ... -cash-eitc

P.S. she's got a fan with those radical leftists at Forbes.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/elainemaag ... 7e1bf31241

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The problem there is it is our bloated defense spending that keeps our economy afloat. Cut it and hello recession or depression.


I hope you have a source for your claim. ;)

There is some Keynesian benefit from military spending, but as Keynes said, you get more "bang for the buck" from actual social spending.

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If a person of Senator Harris beliefs are ever going to win the WH I hope it is sooner rather than later. Thst way we can take our beating and young people will learn the true effects of the Socialist Democrat which will in turn become either moderates or conservatives. Neither of whom are welcome in the Democratic Party.


Glen do you remember when the primary season was going on and Sanders sprayed on Clinton? His tail came up and whiffffff

I think it cost her the general election, if not it was a big part of it.



Someone who's been following Kamala Harris will be slightly aware that she's really on top of it. She knows Sanders tail can come up and so she's wisely put on a protective layer of skunk repellent, early, and no doubt will renew it from time to time as time goes on.

That which you're worrying about is skunk repellent Glen. The kind which really works. Some folks refer to that kind of thing as moving to the center after the primary is over.

Saying it that way is boring. :|


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Glen do you remember when the primary season was going on and Sanders sprayed on Clinton? His tail came up and whiffffff

I think it cost her the general election, if not it was a big part of it.



Someone who's been following Kamala Harris will be slightly aware that she's really on top of it. She knows Sanders tail can come up and so she's wisely put on a protective layer of skunk repellent, early, and no doubt will renew it from time to time as time goes on.

That which you're worrying about is skunk repellent Glen. The kind which really works. Some folks refer to that kind of thing as moving to the center after the primary is over.

Saying it that way is boring. :|


But Kamala Harris has extreme leftist beliefs, tho

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"We" can afford whatever resentments-based numbers you come up with.

What else you got as far as KH's supposed extreme leftist "beliefs" that destroys the country on the same level as the head of a hostile foreign government?



What resentment? Numbers or otherwise. We have about 63 million "working families" earning under 100k a year. Take that number times $6000 and you get a pretty good estimate.

See this is the problem, anytime a liberal is losing an argument they pull totally unrelated crap out of their hineys. This program would more than likely cost in the neighborhood of 500 billion. The lefts response "so". At least you are honest enough to admit there s no number you would say is to big.

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Wouldn't want to limit our choices to party would we? That would be putting party before country after all. I would prefer to vote for a party that isn't full of people who consider anyone who doesn't agree with their ideology to be mortal enemies.


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I hope you have a source for your claim. ;)

There is some Keynesian benefit from military spending, but as Keynes said, you get more "bang for the buck" from actual social spending.



How about common sense and years of listening to left wing radio? The Military Industrial Complex Ike warned us about is here and has been here for decades. The good part is those jobs pay excellent wages and from a LW perspective many if not most are Union jobs.

Plus remember it isn't only guns and bullets. It is also all the secondary jobs making those guns and bullets provide. Plus all the steel and support vehicles and yes trucking.

Military spending takes up so much of our budget it is obvious that currently it is the straw that stirs the drink.

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What resentment?


The same old conservative resentment you guys reserve for working and middle class people while you worhsip rich ripoff artists and give them the right to rip you off.

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Numbers or otherwise. We have about 63 million "working families" earning under 100k a year. Take that number times $6000 and you get a pretty good estimate.

See this is the problem, anytime a liberal is losing an argument they pull totally unrelated crap out of their hineys. This program would more than likely cost in the neighborhood of 500 billion. The lefts response "so". At least you are honest enough to admit there s no number you would say is to big.


Much like your faith-based estimates about so-called free college.

Conservative whites will spare no expense for killing machines and tax cuts for the rich that stoke your Stockholm Syndrome.

Do you have any additional answers to what other of these supposed "extremist beliefs" KH holds that are going to destroy the country, or not?

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Wouldn't want to limit our choices to party would we? That would be putting party before country after all. I would prefer to vote for a party that isn't full of people who consider anyone who doesn't agree with their ideology to be mortal enemies.


Congratulations, you're a Democrat. :problem:

But you didn't answer the question put to board cons. If you don't want to answer that one, do you agree with glenfs that Kamala Harris holds extreme leftist beliefs that are damaging to this nation?

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How about common sense and years of listening to left wing radio? The Military Industrial Complex Ike warned us about is here and has been here for decades. The good part is those jobs pay excellent wages and from a LW perspective many if not most are Union jobs.

Plus remember it isn't only guns and bullets. It is also all the secondary jobs making those guns and bullets provide. Plus all the steel and support vehicles and yes trucking.

Military spending takes up so much of our budget it is obvious that currently it is the straw that stirs the drink.


More guns and more bullets is just porn for conservative whites.

Your culture is obsessed with violent eliminationism and legalized murder to the point that you think it's supposed to be a plank of the national economy.

Now, what other "leftist beliefs" does Kamala Harris (D - Better Educated Than You) hold that destroy the country.

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