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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:12 pm 
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There was a sociologist woman on NPR this morning the topic was America's democratized gun carnage (my lingo not theirs), who said the gun issue in this country is mostly about white American identity. She was very specific that she did not mean white christian identity, or white conservative identity, etc.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:26 am 
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I didn't hear the report...but none of the 'white' people I know seem to have guns as part of their identity.

If I've learned anything from Michael Moore (of whom I'm not generally a fan) its that we don't know why guns, and gun violence in particular, is so prevalent in the US.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:50 am 
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Actually, there is a very short cartoon segment in Bowling for Columbine, where he discusses how it is related to our particular history as a country.

I always got the message of BfC to essentially identify two problems in America: an overabundance of guns, yes, but also an overabundance of a climate of fear and distrust, as well, and the second thing relates to our history.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 12:21 pm 
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I didn't hear the report...but none of the 'white' people I know seem to have guns as part of their identity.

If I've learned anything from Michael Moore (of whom I'm not generally a fan) its that we don't know why guns, and gun violence in particular, is so prevalent in the US.


As I said in my post...it was not stated that it was white christian identity, or why conservative identity, but just plain old white identity. I think she's right. I believe this "nobody's gonna take my guns away from me" fucking nonsense is primarily coming out of white America. And that includes white liberal America. If the left reared up and demanded the outlawing of handguns, assault weapons, any semi-automatically or automatic loading firearms, as the left did to elect Barack Obama...nobody could stop it.

But the left won't...because there are too many white alleged lefties who want their fucking guns, and nobody's gonna take their guns away either.

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Dunno. If we're talking about the semi-religious god and guns thing, then yes, that's a white Christian yahoo thang.

The animated segment in Bowling for Columbine described a climate of mistrust stemming from the Civil War and the well-known reaction to emancipation. It was deliberately parodying some kind of old educational short that they'd have shown kids in school back in the day.

The other point that came through in that one was (if true), that Canada has gun ownership, but they shoot each other only a small fraction as often as we do.

At least in the whiter parts of L.A., indeed the gun thing is about fear as much as identity. They hear about gang bangers with guns and decide to arm themselves.

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Dunno. If we're talking about the semi-religious god and guns thing, then yes, that's a white Christian yahoo thang.

The animated segment in Bowling for Columbine described a climate of mistrust stemming from the Civil War and the well-known reaction to emancipation. It was deliberately parodying some kind of old educational short that they'd have shown kids in school back in the day.

The other point that came through in that one was (if true), that Canada has gun ownership, but they shoot each other only a small fraction as often as we do.

At least in the whiter parts of L.A., indeed the gun thing is about fear as much as identity. They hear about gang bangers with guns and decide to arm themselves.


Fuck white American liberals, 25% of whom see Israel as an ally. Fuck Us liberals and the horses they rode in on. In particular, asshole liberal millennials who handed the 2016 election to Donald Trump on a plate because they couldn't get the nominee they wanted.

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The animated segment in Bowling for Columbine described a climate of mistrust stemming from the Civil War and the well-known reaction to emancipation.


It was patterned on Schoolhouse Rock ... and it actually started with American colonists arming themselves to the teeth because they were surrounded by ... well, you know ... "Injuns".

Moore basically argues that, though the targets might shift, from hostile Natives, to Nat Turner and revenge-seeking emancipated slaves, to .... Mexicans and other immigrants, the basic driving force was always fear, fear of "whites" being surrounded by ... "hostiles". Yes, I think that is the link to the comment on "white identity".

America, and particularly its WASP natives, have always been paranoid. Lots of paranoia, lots of guns ... we see the result of that formula.

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HOUSTON — Country music singer Justin Carter has died after an accidental shooting involving a music video prop weapon, according to reports.

The Texas-based singer was shot and killed at his apartment in Houston, a local ABC station says.

https://www.abc15.com/entertainment/cou ... eports-say


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Anti-Muslim hate crimes soar in UK after Christchurch shootings

The number of anti-Muslim hate crimes reported across Britain increased by 593% in the week after a white supremacist killed worshippers at two New Zealand mosques, an independent monitoring group has said.

The charity Tell Mama said almost all of the increase comprised incidents linked to the Christchurch attacks last Friday, and there had been more recorded hate incidents in the last seven days than in the week after the 2017 Islamist terrorist attack in Manchester.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:28 pm 
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RIP.

Parkland shooting survivor Sydney Aiello died by suicide after allegedly struggling with survivor's guilt

A teen survivor of the mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla., has died by suicide.

Nineteen-year-old Sydney Aiello took her life over the weekend, mom Cara Aiello told Tampa news station WFLA, after suffering from survivor’s guilt and post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). Sydney was at school on February 14, 2018, when a gunman opened fire, killing 17 people. She was reportedly close friends with student Meadow Pollack, who died that day.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:23 am 
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Judge says New York's stun gun ban is unconstitutional

ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) — New York state’s ban on personal ownership of stun guns is unconstitutional, a federal judge ruled Friday in the latest in a series of court decisions that have led to the loosening of restrictions on the weapons in several states.

The decision came in a lawsuit filed by Matthew Avitabile, of Schoharie County, New York, who said he wanted to buy a stun gun for self-defense in his rural upstate home.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:46 am 
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I would regard a stun gun to be a medical device. They could be regulated, even be banned.

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Judge tosses Chicago suburb's assault weapons ban

A judge in Illinois ruled Friday that the Chicago suburb of Deerfield did not have the authority to enact a ban on assault weapons.

Lake County Circuit Court judge Luis Berrones issued a permanent injunction blocking the measure from being enforced, finding that the gun owners who sued have “a clearly ascertainable right to not be subjected to a preempted and unenforceable ordinance,” The Chicago Tribune reported.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 4:36 pm 
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If the law supposes that, the law is a ass.

And Luis Berrones is a ass hole Republican judge, who's term expires in a little over ninety days. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out Luis.

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If the law supposes that, the law is a ass.

And Luis Berrones is a ass hole Republican judge, who's term expires in a little over ninety days. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out Luis.


Maybe this video would help drive the point about these weapons home.


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Mali attack: More than 130 Fulani villagers killed
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-47680836

More than 130 people were killed in an attack on a village in central Mali on Saturday by armed men wearing traditional Dogon hunters' clothing.

Gunmen surrounded the village at dawn before attacking people in their homes in Ogossagou in the Mopti region.

The attackers targeted members of the Fulani ethnic community who are accused of having ties to jihadists.

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The victims of Saturday's deadly attack were "killed with guns and machetes", a local security official told AFP news agency.

Witnesses also told AFP that nearly all the huts in the village had been burned down.

The mayor of the neighbouring village of Ouenkoro, Cheick Harouna Sankare, described the attack as a "massacre".

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1 Dead, 3 Injured in San Francisco Shooting

The San Francisco Police Department is investigating a shooting that left one dead and three others injured Saturday night.

Officials responded to the 1300 block of Fillmore Street around 8:40 p.m. regarding a shooting.

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/S ... 79401.html


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2019 1:20 pm 
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A gun person recently said something which I believe sums up part of the problem of American and guns. They referred to the gun as "just a simple tool".

The attitude of a gun being a simple tool shows me the complete lack of due reverence afforded to guns. Having one comes with being responsible for it and understanding the kind of power it actually has and represents.

Here it's not treated as a simple tool or a toy, it's treated with a kind of "necessary respect".

I also believe that some aspects of our "socialism" lend to it. We don't tend to view our neighbors as adversaries or takers. I think most of us have more of a view that "we're all in this together" and that life is not a competition.

Just my take on it, anyway.

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Firearms are tools, but they are deadly tools and dangerous to the everyone concerned, including the user, without proper training. The NRA used to be known mostly for firearm safety classes. Now, they want to arm every human in the country, and with enough firepower to kill hundreds. The Wal-Mart set laps that shit up like momma's milk.

What changed? Follow the money.

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As Michael Moore always says, he used to be a member. But before the 70s, it was a different organization.

They actually used to support laws and regulations requiring safe storage of firearms and things like mandatory safety training. Also no way on Earth would the old group have resisted restricting firearms sales to those under 21. They SUPPORTED the National Firearms Act of 1938 -- gun control. But that was a different organization.

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New Jersey sues California company over 'ghost guns'

NEWARK, N.J. (AP) — New Jersey's attorney general announced a lawsuit Friday against a California company that sells mail-order firearms parts that can be turned into working weapons, the first such action the state has taken since it banned so-called ghost guns last year.

The lawsuit filed Thursday alleges that Apple Valley-based U.S. Patriot Armory and owner-founder James Tromblee Jr. violated New Jersey's consumer fraud laws when it advertised and sold gun parts to an undercover investigator last month.

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Two Parkland survivors have committed suicide at this point.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/25/us/parkl ... index.html

And a Sandy Hook father, as well. Here's why.

Sandy Hook dad who killed himself was under a constant attack by conspiracy theorists: NYT reporter
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/03/sandy- ... -reporter/

Jeremy Richman’s body was found at the Edmond Town Hall on Monday morning of an apparent suicide. The death of a child is horrific and barely manageable, but Richman was bullied every day by conspiracy theorists who claimed his daughter was still alive.

New York Times feature writer Elizabeth Williamson posted a Twitter thread about the heartbreak the Sandy Hook dad faced that likely made his depression worse with the barage of hate.

“One of these hoaxers, Wolfgang Halbig–whose Twitter account was suspended ONLY LAST MONTH–spent years insisting that Avielle Richman was alive, living in alias as another girl in Newtown, a child he repeatedly named online,” she wrote Monday evening. “Halbig’s naming of this child has terrified her family. He’s appeared on Alex Jones’ Infowars show multiple times.”

Jones claimed the Sandy Hook shooting was a “false flag” attack by the American government. He alleged that no one actually died and the children were actors. While an FBI report disputes this, the right-wing media host also alleges that the FBI is part of a deep-state attack on Americans, particularly President Donald Trump.

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People say Alex Jones' bullshit may be bullshit but it is harmless.

No, no it is not.

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Two Parkland survivors have committed suicide at this point.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/25/us/parkl ... index.html

And a Sandy Hook father, as well. Here's why.

Sandy Hook dad who killed himself was under a constant attack by conspiracy theorists: NYT reporter
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/03/sandy- ... -reporter/

Jeremy Richman’s body was found at the Edmond Town Hall on Monday morning of an apparent suicide. The death of a child is horrific and barely manageable, but Richman was bullied every day by conspiracy theorists who claimed his daughter was still alive.

New York Times feature writer Elizabeth Williamson posted a Twitter thread about the heartbreak the Sandy Hook dad faced that likely made his depression worse with the barage of hate.

“One of these hoaxers, Wolfgang Halbig–whose Twitter account was suspended ONLY LAST MONTH–spent years insisting that Avielle Richman was alive, living in alias as another girl in Newtown, a child he repeatedly named online,” she wrote Monday evening. “Halbig’s naming of this child has terrified her family. He’s appeared on Alex Jones’ Infowars show multiple times.”

Jones claimed the Sandy Hook shooting was a “false flag” attack by the American government. He alleged that no one actually died and the children were actors. While an FBI report disputes this, the right-wing media host also alleges that the FBI is part of a deep-state attack on Americans, particularly President Donald Trump.

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People say Alex Jones' bullshit may be bullshit but it is harmless.

No, no it is not.


Another one is Marty Leeds, just another lunatic rocketing all over the internet. (The internet is such a double edged sword, eh?) Halbig has appeared several times on his podcast. Leeds has an obsession with mathematical analysis of everything...fucking everything. I've had two clients who were obsessed with exposing the truth of the world through occult mathematical analysis. They both had untreated bipolar disorder. In the real world we identify them as numerologists.

PS - I believe Ben Shapiro is also suffering from untreated, or poorly treated bipolar disorder after seeing him on Phil McGraw's TeeVee show. Yes that Phil McGraw who continues to insist he's not political after featuring "my dear friend Ben Shapiro" on his show. Dr. Phil...Trumper.

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Mr. Leeds appears to be both a Pizzagate and QAnon supporter.

Imagine my shock. :roll:

The weird thing is he really almost seems like the protagonist in the movie Pi come to life. Leeds himself seems to emphasize this. You may recall the movie ends with the protagonist putting a drill bit through his brain to lobotomize himself, although I would argue it's mostly symbolic of him shutting part of his brain off. :D

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NRA execs busted giving tips to far-right nationalists on how to exploit gun massacres

In a secretly recorded video captured by Al Jazeera, executives for the National Rifle Association (NRA) can be seen coaching members of the anti-immigration One Nation party of Australia how to attack gun control activists following shootings.

In the video, which can be seen below, media inquiries about gun control persist, NRA communications official, Lars Dalseide, advised members of the group to “shame them to the whole idea,” when fighting back against anyone advocating for sensible gun laws.

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