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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:56 pm 
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A picture of McChinless at a meeting of the Sons of Confederate Veterans in the 1990's is now making the rounds of social media. In that picture, right behind the Turtle is rather large Confederate Flag. He appears to be accepting a award of the SoCV.

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/02/old-ph ... ntroversy/.

Now, Democrats have been roundly demanding the Governor of Virginia resign over those ugly racist pictures from 1984.

RePugs on the other hand ain't saying a word about this pic.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:18 pm 
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Count her in the race

Sen. Amy Klobuchar to announce 2020 plans on Sunday

Sen. Amy Klobuchar will announce her plans for the 2020 presidential race at Boom Island Park in Minneapolis on Sunday.

Asked if she will join the crowded field of Democrats competing for the nomination on MSNBC after President Donald Trump’s State of the Union address on Tuesday, the Minnesota senator responded, “Sunday come to Boom Island — as in Boom Island drop the mic — and then you’ll find out.”

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:36 pm 
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At fucking last. Senator Klobuchar just plain rocks.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:30 pm 
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What's this about?

"Former New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg, a centrist Democrat, appears to be contemplating a 2020 presidential run, and he stands a chance against President Trump.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that, if the presidential race in 2020 was between Trump and Bloomberg, 46% of Likely U.S. Voters would vote for Bloomberg, while 40% would vote to reelect Trump. Fourteen percent (14%) are undecided between the two billionaire moguls."

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... _winner_is

Why did they decide to ask that on Jan 30 and 31, and release it today about a week later. It was a stand alone poll, they didn't ask about any other candidates, or about the primary. Who paid for it???


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:00 pm 
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So, it's not clear whether Mike B. should continue to belong in this thread.

The reason I say that is it's still not certain he will run as a Democrat (if he does at all). He has been a Democrat, but not with consistency.

Personal opinion: don't care if he runs as part of the Natural Law party, not interested in him doing damage beyond the boundaries of New York City. Never been much a fan. This 64oz soda I wave and fart in his general direction.

If he runs as a Democrat, I predict he will be eliminated from the primaries fairly early.

If he runs as an Independent, I promise to castigate both him and Mr. Coffee, if they both do the same stupid thing which will probably only help re-elect Donald Trump, whatever mouth noises they are making about him. Independents as not-party-members go through no party primary, so if both Shultz and Bloomberg do this, they won't face each other till the GE (and whoever else).

It could be interesting to see a debate between Shultz and Bloomberg, over which one is more independent, more centrist, more moderate, and I guess has the bigger fortune. :D

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:37 am 
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At fucking last. Senator Klobuchar just plain rocks.


She hasn't even announced and is already taking hits...

https://www.google.com/search?q=klobuch ... e&ie=UTF-8

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She hasn't even announced and is already taking hits...

https://www.google.com/search?q=klobuch ... e&ie=UTF-8


So the Woman who wants to identify as a Native American is as bad or worse than the man who wants to DESTROY them?

So the Woman who might be tough on her employees (entirely unnecessary by the way but nothing new) is as bad or worse than the man who cheats his employees?

Each criticism of any Democrat will be LAUGHABLE compared to ANY republican who could or would run for the WH. I am not lecturing Brad, just using his post to say this.

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We could all just decide it's Kamala Harris this time and avoid unpleasantness.

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So the Woman who wants to identify as a Native American is as bad or worse than the man who wants to DESTROY them?

So the Woman who might be tough on her employees (entirely unnecessary by the way but nothing new) is as bad or worse than the man who cheats his employees?

Each criticism of any Democrat will be LAUGHABLE compared to ANY republican who could or would run for the WH. I am not lecturing Brad, just using his post to say this.

The story seems to have originated from HuffPo. Both authors seem to be taking heat for it...

https://twitter.com/mtredden/status/109 ... gr%5Etweet

https://twitter.com/aterkel

Kinda seems like an inside job. i dunno....needs more time.

For the record, i'm lukewarm to both Warren and Amy. Warren because of the drama, Amy cuz...........i dunno...yet.

There was a feeling i felt when i first heard Obama speak at Kerry's shindig. The feeling that he was the right person was overwhelming from there on in. i want that feeling again.8-)

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:22 pm 
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We could all just decide it's Kamala Harris this time and avoid unpleasantness.

:D

Easy, Sam. :) Some aren't blowing the "tough on crime" thing off as easily as some. ;)

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2019 ... ident-2020

Not having that feeling aside.....She' the highest on my list.....so far. i'm hoping Booker has more than just, "Bring it on". :)

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There was a feeling i felt when i first heard Obama speak at Kerry's shindig. The feeling that he was the right person was overwhelming from there on in. i want that feeling again.8-)



I have that feeling again. :)




I've been living in her tough on crime world for some years on end. I've been regarding it as being sensible.


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I have that feeling again. :)




I've been living in her tough on crime world for some years on end. I've been regarding it as being sensible.


i'm happy for you. Closest i've come is a small rush when Biden hit first place in the polls awhile back. Fleeting as it was. :)

Now imagine this if ya would. Remove that elephant the donkey has his arm around and replace it with a mule. Now make the one on the left green and the one on the right blue. The caption reads: "What are we going to do with you, you ol' blue dog you." :)

i dunno.....Hillary took some fairly decent hits on that crime thing from within her own party. They had a point. Some of it wasn't very sensible.

i guess it remains to be seen if, "Her heart was in the right place," "We made the appropriate changes," will sell. :|

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At fucking last. Senator Klobuchar just plain rocks.
(I can't believe it...) we're in complete agreement.

As far as I'm concerned, she was the star of the Kavanaugh hearings (though I thought many of the dems did well)...I'm (pleasantly) stunned that she'll be running.


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It could be interesting to see a debate between Shultz and Bloomberg, over which one is more independent, more centrist, more moderate, and I guess has the bigger fortune. :D
Both could do a decent job...certainly head and shoulders over anything we see from the current admin, and perhaps better than many of those in the race already.

That said, either would cause the same type of harm that to the Democratic candidate that Sanders has. So, "Mr Coffee" and "Mr anti-soda," take your shot as a democratic candidate, or leave the race. Anything else, especially in the general, is harmful.


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As I often say, sure, both would be better than Trump (Shultz and Bloomberg). But that is such a low bar to clear.

Bloomberg at least has governmental experience, and running a city as big as NYC is executive experience almost as good as being a governor, but Shultz has none.

I'm tired of these people who view the Presidency as an entry level governmental job. Get some other government experience first. Got that, Marianne?

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I'm tired of these people who view the Presidency as an entry level governmental job. Get some other government experience first. Got that, Marianne?


I certainly understand, but seems like general approach attitude, intellect, willingness to use a team, yes morality, and some other things may be more important. In fairness, Obama had very little government experience prior to taking office. And certainly nothing close to the responsibly of running a major organization much less country, or negotiating or implementing major legislation.


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I'm still rooting for Elizabeth Warren. The so-called "drama," I assume is about her claim to native ancestry. I always took that as something that started as an offhand comment, one lots of people do...I still remember sitting around the dinner table and listening to my parents, uncles, grandfather, etc. speculating about "Indian blood." It's just silly small talk, with Warren it only became a thing because the Retrumplicans will glom onto anything to try to deconstruct a fellow human who is in another party. Benghazi!!!! Email!!!! Pizza parlor pedophiles!!!

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I'm still rooting for Elizabeth Warren. The so-called "drama," I assume is about her claim to native ancestry. I always took that as something that started as an offhand comment, one lots of people do...I still remember sitting around the dinner table and listening to my parents, uncles, grandfather, etc. speculating about "Indian blood." It's just silly small talk, with Warren it only became a thing because the Retrumplicans will glom onto anything to try to deconstruct a fellow human who is in another party. Benghazi!!!! Email!!!! Pizza parlor pedophiles!!!


They now have a card. It's Warren's card. Her handwriting. Ancestry marked Indian. Her camp is not denying its authenticity. Warren's admission comes in a apology. No further comment from her or her camp. Trump lost no time in jumping up and down on it.


Me, i'm kinda siding with those who think she badly bungled the whole thing starting when she released the 1/1000th bit and tried to collect on the bet. Could it be a prelude of things to come? In other words, does she have enuf of her shit together to establish the magical teflon coating needed to survive, or not? Her pan has a scratch in it. A drama scratch on top of it.

That said, I like Warren. i like her a lot. Always have. i hope it goes away.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:38 am 
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The next thing that is already happening is, somewhere on the continuum of grumbling and rage, all sorts of shit about the Congressional Democratic caucus agreeing to give up anything on border security in order to avoid another fucking shut-down.

And I say...oh come on people. They have the Senate and the White House. There is gonna have to be something for them on the plate in this deal if we really don't want another shut-down. Don't like it? The fix is easy. Whether you like the ideology of the Democratic candidate for the office or not, get off your dead fucking millennial ass, your dead Jew ass, your dead black ass, your dead Latino ass, your dead Christian ass, your dead Muslim ass. Get off your gay/straight ass, your male/female ass... your dead ideological ass, leave your single or multiple special interest issues in the fucking toilet where they belong, and vote for the democratic candidate for the office even if he/she wants a healthcare system you don't like. Take back the Senate, take back the White House.

Kobuchar or Harris or Biden. Who TF cares? Once we have control of the government you can whine about it all you like. Until then, just STFU and vote. Do that and there's no way we don't win the Senate and the White House in 2020. The only thing that can stop it is the fucking infighting and petty self-indulgence..

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Ya know, we ain't gonna get perfect candidates.

"But Elizabeth Warren put American Indian on a card once!" (in the grand scheme of things - really - why should we give a flying fuck? There are thousands of people in America who think they have a Cherokee grandmother from family legends, and maybe half are right. It's just half didn't run for president. This is all this is. She believed family stories. BURN HER AT THE STAKE!)
"But Amy Klobuchar was MEAN to some of her staff!" (some BTW said she was a tough but fair boss. Q. Would this be a big deal if she was male and a hardass?)
"Joe Biden said a gaffe [8000 examples follow here]!" (yeah still don't know if he's running)

Come on people. Compared to sexual assault, treason, major corruption, and posing in your Klan outfit, this is chicken shit stuff.

We really gotta get over it.

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Democratic Sen. Amy Klobuchar announces run for president

Democratic Sen. Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota announced at a rally in her home state on Sunday that she is running for president.

"Let us cross the river of our divides and walk across our sturdy bridge to higher ground," Klobuchar said at an outdoor event in Minneapolis where a large crowd stood in snowy, freezing conditions.


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Harris, Warren and Klobuchar would be the top tier candidates. As much as I respect Julian Castro, he really does not stand a chance right now. Possibly as Vice President.

Each of them has fleas of course, but what the Democrats need to is to unite around one candidate early on and that candidate must be able face down 45.

There will Democrats who have some sort of asinine purity test. I just want a strong Candidate who can win. The Bernie Bros can go to hell.

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Unless or until such a time that Sanders signs the papers changing his party affiliation, he is NOT a Democrat. DNC Chair Perez change the rules, only members of the Democratic Party can run for the Democratic Nomination.

Bernie is burned in the Democratic Party, and he knows it. Also, just because he raised money on the first day does make bode well him later on.

Also, he is pretty much an also ran. I prefer to let the process play out. Never mind the gloom and doom.

The first debates begin in June or July on MSNBC...lets not decide to decide a damn thing until we know who the nominee is.

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I'm rooting for whichever candidate has the best chance of winning.

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Add John Hickenlooper (former Governor of Colorado) the growing list of Democrats running for President.

https://www.denverpost.com/2019/03/04/j ... noucement/.

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