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 Post subject: RIP Frank Robinson
PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:51 pm 
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First African-American MLB manager Frank Robinson passed today. Opening day in 1975 the guy who lived a few doors down from me and I skipped school and went to opening day to see his debut.

Having saved the ticket stubb believing someday it might be worth a grand.......my mother threw it away.

Robinson was rookie of the year with the Reds and the only player to win the MVP in both leagues. A great player who the Reds traded for very little. Claiming he had an old body.

Robinson played another decade or so leading a person to believe the Reds might have had an ulterior motive for the trade.

As a manager like most other great players he was below average. Overall a good man that was good for baseball

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 Post subject: Re: RIP Frank Robinson
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Sidebar as I recall the tribe hit 3 homers that day. One by Boog Powell one by Robinson that cleared the right field fence by inches. With the third from the catcher who I believe was either Jerry Willard or John Ellis.

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Most ratings of lifetime best hitters put Frank Robinson somewhere in the mid-teens to mid-twenties in various lists. And if you look at his output by batting category it seems about right. But any pitcher who faced Robinson will tell you that they were all scared shitless of him. He was as feared as Mays, Aaron, Schmidt, Jackson, Rose, Banks...more feared by many pitchers. And for most of the years he played, the strikezone made it a pitcher's game.

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 Post subject: Re: RIP Frank Robinson
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First African-American MLB manager


The reason we still have to even count "first Black..." anything, including into the present day, is because of conservative whites and your 400-year legacy of violence.

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The reason we still have to even count "first Black..." anything, including into the present day, is because of conservative whites and your 400-year legacy of violence.


I always liked Henry Aaron. To this day you can see this edge in the man. On some level he isn't having any of this shit. Just one to many insigned racist death threats and mumbled insults from certain white players as he closed in on Ruth's all time HR record.

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The reason we still have to even count "first Black..." anything, including into the present day, is because of conservative whites and your 400-year legacy of violence.


And they are doubling down. Can you IMAGINE what would happen if Obama AG had gone to the House and refused to answer questions.

Would he have made it outside alive?

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I always liked Henry Aaron. To this day you can see this edge in the man. On some level he isn't having any of this shit. Just one to many insigned racist death threats and mumbled insults from certain white players as he closed in on Ruth's all time HR record.



Aarons swing was amazing all wrists. He also benefited from playing most of his career in hitter friendly parks. While Willie Mays played in parks that were among the least friendly.

Can you imagine Mays numbers had he played in Milwaukee and Atlanta.

A little known Mays trivia. Boston scouts begged team ownership to sign Mays. They didnt because of his race.

If they had their outfield would have been Mays, Ted Williams and Dom DiMaggio. Between the three about 90 homers, 300+ RBIs and Runs scored a year.

No telling how many pennants and world series.

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I have an original typed list of players names , address and home phone #'s from the 1966 SF Giants. Somewhere, havent seen it in a while, cousin was bat boy.

The DR and Black players like Willie Mays that rightwingers love to talk about could NOT live in the same neighborhoods as the white players in that time and place.

And wouldnt be able to TODAY if they had their way.

The first uppity Black they would kick out would probably be LeBron James.

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 Post subject: Re: RIP Frank Robinson
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I have an original typed list of players names , address and home phone #'s from the 1966 SF Giants. Somewhere, havent seen it in a while, cousin was bat boy.

The DR and Black players like Willie Mays that rightwingers love to talk about could NOT live in the same neighborhoods as the white players in that time and place.

And wouldnt be able to TODAY if they had their way.

The first uppity Black they would kick out would probably be LeBron James.


I met Willie Mays at an AC Casino about 35 years ago. [ he wasn't working] He was standing by himself next to a wall all by himself. I went over introduced myself and asked if he were Willie Mays. We stood there and gabbed for a good 10 minutes.[ he was waiting for his wife] Just a regular conversation between two guys.

After about 5 minutes or so a Mays associate joined in. When we parted ways I thanked Mr Mays for the talk and mentioned that while he was one of the nicest men I had ever met. About a month earlier I had met Mickey Mantle in a similar fashion and he was a total asshole. To which Mr Mays associate blurted out without thinking " was he sober". Mr Mays busted out laughing and while laughing said two or three times "I didn't say that" "It was him."

Truly a great man and a great memory. BTW in retrospect Mantle wasn't sober and it was about 10 in the morning.

He was and I am sure still is one of the nicest people, let alone athlete you could ever want to meet. Tu

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 Post subject: Re: RIP Frank Robinson
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The DR and Black players like Willie Mays that rightwingers love to talk about could NOT live in the same neighborhoods as the white players in that time and place.


In Ken Burns' Baseball, Curt Flood (who was probably the most victimized uppity black in this history of American professional sports) tell this great story from fairly early in his career, about spring training down in Florida. At the time there were three black players on the Cardinals...Flood, Bob Gibson, and Bill White. Even with Musial, it wouldn't have been much of a team without these three guys. So one day owner August Busch shows up at the ballpark, Flood has been with the team for a few years...he and Busch know each other. So Busch says to him, "How's it going Curt?" Flood says to himself, "well he asked" so he replies, "Pretty good Mr. Busch, but I have to tell you it's discouraging that the three of us have to find a place to stay over in the Negro section of town." Busch is incredulous, "Wait...you mean you aren't at the hotel with the rest of the fellas?" Flood, "Mr. Busch, don't you know that the hotel is segregated?" The next day Busch went out and bought a motel near the ballpark where the entire team would stay every spring. And Flood says, "It was amazing to me how easy it is for someone to segregate himself into the back of a limousine and never think about any of this."

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 Post subject: Re: RIP Frank Robinson
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Aarons swing was amazing all wrists. He also benefited from playing most of his career in hitter friendly parks. While Willie Mays played in parks that were among the least friendly.

Can you imagine Mays numbers had he played in Milwaukee and Atlanta.

A little known Mays trivia. Boston scouts begged team ownership to sign Mays. They didnt because of his race.

If they had their outfield would have been Mays, Ted Williams and Dom DiMaggio. Between the three about 90 homers, 300+ RBIs and Runs scored a year.

No telling how many pennants and world series.


Did you read my goddamn post? And you're talking about fucking pennants, world series', and Aaron's swing? It wasn't bad enough for Aaron in Milwaukee and Atlanta? He should have had to put up with the shit from the racists from "Southie" in those days. And WTF do you really care?

He was victimized by white confederates who were no different from your pals, your political allies, your fucking cohorts in the shithole this country has become. Through your support of the Republican party you support it's racism and it's racist president.

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