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Shameful:
On CNN Friday, a panel of analyst laid into Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) for a Fox News rant in which he tried to motivate viewers to vote for scandal-plagued NFL veteran Herschel Walker in the upcoming Georgia Senate runoff by trying to paint his weakness as a product of liberal racism — even though his opponent, Sen. Rev. Raphael Warnock is also Black and the former pastor of MLK's church.

"They're trying to destroy Herschel Walker to deter young men and women of color from being Republicans," said Graham. "If they destroy Herschel it will want to stop people of color from being a conservative Republican, because it destroys your life ... Herschel Walker is a nightmare for liberals, an African-American conservative, they have belittled him, treated him like crap. Stand by Herschel, the conservative movement for people of color is on the ballot in Georgia. We must help people like Herschel for the benefit of our country and the future of conservatism."
What a bunch of bullshit.
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gounion wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:55 am Shameful:

Stand by Herschel, the conservative movement for people of color is on the ballot in Georgia.
This is just good nigras/our nigras mentality.

Sounds like the same kind of resentful, paternalistic supremacism Glennfs spouts, that none of their ham-handed tactics to get our vote will ever work.

At some point, someone ought to inform these vicious conservative whites that we have NEVER accepted political advice from confederates, or voted as a bloc for their reactionary, handpicked tokens.

It truly makes them want to burn down our parts of town that after 150+ years of these antics will simply never work for them.
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Reminder: Herschel Walker is the ideal conservative man.

• Abusive to family

• Violent to the women and children in his environment

• Attracted to demagoguery

• Relies on patronage from the powerful for his success

• No experience in legislation

• Easily manipulated

• Hypocritical conservative Christian

• Willing tool of white supremacism

The fact of his skintone is just icing for these desperate conservative whites determined to exploit him.
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gounion wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:55 am Shameful:



What a bunch of bullshit.
Well so far every person of color who has come out as a republican has been trashed by the democratic party
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carmenjonze wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 10:01 am This is just good nigras/our nigras mentality.

Sounds like the same kind of resentful, paternalistic supremacism Glennfs spouts, that none of their ham-handed tactics to get our vote will ever work.

At some point, someone ought to inform these vicious conservative whites that we have NEVER accepted political advice from confederates, or voted as a bloc for their reactionary, handpicked tokens.

It truly makes them want to burn down our parts of town that after 150+ years of these antics will simply never work for them.
So you believe him to be a race traitor got it
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Uh, the Black Republicans have been campaigned against just like white, yellow, red, brown, or purple Republicans.

Rev. Warnock, who after all is also Black - IMHO has shown quite the "civility" to his opponent.
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Glennfs wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 6:06 am ... race traitor ...
^white-supremacist term, white-supremacist concept.

I don't use it, so quit trying to cram white-supremacist terminology in my mouth.
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Glennfs wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 6:06 am Well so far every person of color who has come out as a republican has been trashed by the democratic party
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ProfX wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 6:19 am Uh, the Black Republicans have been campaigned against just like white, yellow, red, brown, or purple Republicans.
Yeah but white, yellow, red, brown, purple Republicans don't evoke the emotions that Black Republicans do for conservative whites, because Black people are the one voting bloc that overwhelmingly votes Dem. And there's nothing they can do about it except try futilely to chip away at it while we laugh at them.

These conservative whites have carried this attitude towards Black voters and politicians since 1870, and earlier in places where Black men were even permitted to vote.

These dumb, violent white cons are just mad because they can't own us, nor can they own or even control our vote with state violence, murder, and withholding validation that nobody wants from them.

The handpicked handfull of Black Republicans are actually a good reminder to white-is-white Righty of how powerless they are over the one group of people they used to buy and sell to make a buck. That's why Lindsey Graham is crying about it. :lol:
Rev. Warnock, who after all is also Black - IMHO has shown quite the "civility" to his opponent.
Conservatives do not deserve any kind of civility. They prop up demagoguery, war, destruction of the earth, and white supremacism; f. all of them.

92% of us are plantation slaves, to them, anyway -- pointyhat whitesheets like Glennfs actually still use this imagery to this day. http://radiofreeliberal.com/viewtopic.p ... 765#p39765
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Lindsey Graham needs to keep his dirty South Carolina nose out of Georgia politics, anyway.

Look at this dumb bigot. He's just trying to distract from this:

Supreme Court Rules That Lindsey Graham Must Testify in Georgia Inquiry - NYT
The court’s order said the questioning allowed by lower courts was limited and subject to appropriate safeguards.

A special grand jury was empaneled in Fulton County in May, and it has been collecting records and hearing testimony from dozens of witnesses as it looks into whether Mr. Trump and his allies violated Georgia law in their efforts to overturn the former president’s November 2020 electoral loss in the state.

Legal experts believe the case represents a serious threat to Mr. Trump, who was recorded on a phone call with Mr. Raffensperger in January 2021, telling him he wanted to “find” 11,780 votes — one vote more than he needed to declare victory.

In recent months, a number of high-profile allies of Mr. Trump have been waging battles in courtrooms around the nation, arguing that they should not have to participate. So far, their track record has been mixed.

Mr. Graham was originally ordered to appear before the grand jury in late August. More recently, he received a subpoena ordering him to give testimony on Nov. 17, according to a document his lawyers have filed with the Supreme Court.

Lower courts had shielded Mr. Graham from some potential questions, saying that matters related to his legislative responsibilities were protected by the Constitution’s “speech or debate” clause. “For any speech or debate in either house,” the clause says of senators and representatives, “they shall not be questioned in any other place.”

But a unanimous three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit, in Atlanta, ruled that Mr. Graham could be required to answer other questions from the grand jury.
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Glennfs wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 6:06 am Well so far every person of color who has come out as a republican has been trashed by the democratic party
Also from my same link:
"But look, if you are a young black person and want to be conservative, there's a guy named Tim Scott who I'd direct you to, if you want to look to somebody in the Senate," Jones added. "The idea, everything has to be extreme, if you don't want someone with his lack of qualifications to be in the senate, you now hate all conservatives and don't want any Black people to be conservatives? That's not true. We have conservative black people in our families. What are you talking about?"

CNN anchor Don Lemon agreed.

"People like [Graham] always talk about race-baiting," said Lemon. "This is race-baiting. This is race-baiting in the worst form to say, because someone doesn't like — if you're Black and you don't like this, this is the worst — if you believe, you know, liberals, people who are not MAGA. And they're always race-baiting and they believe in identity politics, that's exactly what he's doing. The hypocrisy — off the charts there. And then the — you know, oh, my gosh, I thought he was going to start crying like a southern preacher! To tell people just because you're Black and you don't support Herschel Walker, that is the worst, I believe, form of racism."
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gounion wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 7:38 am Also from my same link:
For myself, I used to actually BE a "Black conservative," so I understand exactly how important they are in the white-conservative race-paranoiac psyche. Don Lemon is right: as much as conservative whites whine about "identity politics," they're the originators of it.

All Black people are simple stick figures to them.

Doesn't really matter if we're the 9/10 that vote dem or the less than 10% that vote R...we're all just n-words and at best useful tools, to them.

They don't believe in equal rights because they still think of 9/10 of us as simple slaves and 3/5 human.
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carmenjonze wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 7:43 am For myself, I used to actually BE a "Black conservative," so I understand exactly how important they are in the white-conservative race-paranoiac psyche. Don Lemon is right: as much as conservative whites whine about "identity politics," they're the originators of it.

All Black people are simple stick figures to them.

Doesn't really matter if we're the 9/10 that vote dem or the less than 10% that vote R...we're all just n-words and at best useful tools, to them.

They don't believe in equal rights because they still think of 9/10 of us as simple slaves and 3/5 human.
Yes, conservatives firmly believe the reason they don't back Republicans is because they're stupid.

When the truth is they KNOW when they're being lied to, and when people hate them. The GOP has been the anti-black party ever since the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act.
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gounion wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 7:48 am Yes, conservatives firmly believe the reason they don't back Republicans is because they're stupid.
We're of lesser intelligence and lesser humanity.

Without the violent controls of white-conservatism, we are dangerous and an existential threat.

Also: This is the premise of Birth of A Nation.

When the truth is they KNOW when they're being lied to, and when people hate them. The GOP has been the anti-black party ever since the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act.
TBH the Republican Party was never really pro-Black.

Like, one of my grandfathers was a staunch "party of Lincoln" guy even into the 1970s when it was clear that the Dixiecrat demagogues had clogged up the party post-1964. But he was mistaken and in the minority for a reason. Same for my parents (and by extension my young-adult self who didn't have a choice) who went Republican for social-conservative religious reasons during the Reagan-Bush era.

Folks like Alveda King, Carlton Pearson until he became a conscious person, Pastor Darrell C. Scott, Pastor Mark Burns, and those guys. I do wonder if today my parents would have seen through MAGA and reverted to their civil rights kids roots...that's speculation for the ages. My father, even in his dementia, seemed to see through Bush43 at the end of his years, but again, this is speculation; who knows.

What I do know is that the Radical Republicans maybe were pro-Black at least on paper...and that's why the pointyhat whitesheet Glennfs's of the world NEVER talk about them. :lol:

And even if they did, 9/10 Black voters would still remain Dem. Somebody tell Lindsey to stop crying. They've been crying since 1870, poor dears.
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Carmen, obviously you know the history better than I do. But the Dems, to keep a majority coalition together, welcomed the Jim Crow southern Democrats in the party for decades, and only decided they were too toxic in the forties, and many racist dems formed the Dixiecrat Party. These are the folks the Republicans welcomed with open arms.
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gounion wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 8:13 am Carmen, obviously you know the history better than I do. But the Dems, to keep a majority coalition together, welcomed the Jim Crow southern Democrats in the party for decades, and only decided they were too toxic in the forties, and many racist dems formed the Dixiecrat Party. These are the folks the Republicans welcomed with open arms.
Yes, the conservative whites of both parties have been shitty to African Americans, and neither has a great history around this.

The dumber ones like Glennfs trot out plantation imagery and say things like the democrat party is the KKK, in hopes of slathering over the Republican Party's own shitty anti-Black history, especially including its contemporary history and policies.

What conservative whites -- regardless of party, regardless of era -- are mad about is that they'll never dissuade us from voting our own interests, or rejecting their authoritarian attempts to define or alter our own social movements or influence our voting patterns.

They really do still carry entitled ex-slavedriver 1870's mentality about Black voters and what's good for us.
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Glennfs wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 6:06 am Well so far every person of color who has come out as a republican has been trashed by the democratic party
:? you propagandized, dumb conservative whites actually believe 90+% of Black voters are incapable of voting our own interests, and the less than 10% that vote for your WN policies, somehow are. You guys have been saying things like this about Black voters since 1870.

Not to mention all your violence.

Please show where “the democratic party” has ever trashed any person of color who has come out as a Republican.

Second request.

While you’re at it, please show where anyone ever has to “come out” as Republican, and why you use this language.
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carmenjonze wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 7:04 am :? you propagandized, dumb conservative whites actually believe 90+% of Black voters are incapable of voting our own interests, and the less than 10% that vote for your WN policies, somehow are. You guys have been saying things like this about Black voters since 1870.

Not to mention all your violence.

Please show where “the democratic party” has ever trashed any person of color who has come out as a Republican.

Second request.

While you’re at it, please show where anyone ever has to “come out” as Republican, and why you use this language.
Not to mention the unconstitutional gerrymandering which if they keep the House will be the only reason they did.

The reason it is unconstitutional is because it is fucking racist.
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Libertas wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:28 am Not to mention the unconstitutional gerrymandering which if they keep the House will be the only reason they did.

The reason it is unconstitutional is because it is fucking racist.
Point is, "the democratic party" does not "trash any person of color who comes out as Republican."

9 out of 10 Black voters are plantation slaves to these dumb conserative whites.
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carmenjonze wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:48 am Point is, "the democratic party" does not "trash any person of color who comes out as Republican."

9 out of 10 Black voters are plantation slaves to these dumb conserative whites.
Yes, thank you.

I do tend to get OT now and again. :lol:
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gounion wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 8:13 am Carmen, obviously you know the history better than I do. But the Dems, to keep a majority coalition together, welcomed the Jim Crow southern Democrats in the party for decades, and only decided they were too toxic in the forties, and many racist dems formed the Dixiecrat Party. These are the folks the Republicans welcomed with open arms.
It grew through the 40's and came to a head in 48..........

https://www.americanrhetoric.com/speech ... 48dnc.html
Hubert H. Humphrey 1948 Democratic National Convention Address
My friends, to those who say that we are rushing this issue of civil rights, I say to them we are 172 years late. To those who say that this civil-rights program is an infringement on states’ rights, I say this: The time has arrived in America for the Democratic Party to get out of the shadow of states' rights and to walk forthrightly into the bright sunshine of human rights. People -- human beings -- this is the issue of the 20th century. People of all kinds -- all sorts of people -- and these people are looking to America for leadership, and they’re looking to America for precept and example.
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Georgia Senate candidate Herschel Walker (R): "If we was ready for the green agenda, I'd raise my hand right now. But we're not ready right now ... What we need to do is keep having those gas-guzzling cars, 'cause we got the good emissions under those cars."
All cons here would vote for him if they could.
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bradman wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:51 pm It grew through the 40's and came to a head in 48..........

https://www.americanrhetoric.com/speech ... 48dnc.html
Hubert H. Humphrey 1948 Democratic National Convention Address


A member of the DFL highjacked the party.
How was the party hijacked?
Ya had two choices after that. Get with the program or get the hell out.
How so?
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Just so people are clear, get with the program or get the hell out were not the two choices. Dixiecrats quite famously stayed in the party for a generation after the 1948 Democratic Convention.

The context was primarily race- and white-supremacy based. A ban on military segregation by race was coming down the pike, and was implemented week and a half after the convention.

This effort took at least a decade by Civil Rights activists.

(Consider that this also means that it can be re-segregated by Executive Order.)

Executive Order 8802: Prohibition of Discrimination in the Defense Industry (1941) - US National Archives

Executive Order 9981: Desegregation of the Armed Forces (1948)

The States Rights Democratic Party/Dixiecrats formed right after this Convention (and this speech, by extension.)

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Their aesthetic was overtly neonazi.

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Despite the rhetoric, these states rights/white-is-right people did not get the hell out, not even close. These neonazi conservative whites continued to stink up the party throughout the 1970s and continued imposing the same white supremacism on the nation they started in the post-Reconstruction era.

They're Republicans, now.
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