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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:16 pm 
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I wonder how one would say coup d'é·tat in Yokut.

They're the tiny tribe to the east of here. This article covers their years long dispute. They're doing it again, it's a Saga. Guns come out, they threaten and break things.

I don't think anyone has been killed yet.

https://kmph.com/news/local/dispute-bre ... leadership


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:21 pm 
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"...buildings...were never meant for personal use."

What were they intended for? Just seemed strange. I'm sure there's a rational explanation.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:44 pm 
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They're talking about their Capitol building Roy. It's offices, not a barracks. But think double wide office trailer on little adjuster stands, not 18th century marble atop a firm foundation.


I think this is about like when the Brady bunch took over that wildlife refuge.

The bunch which took over the Capitol building this week end are some real tribal members, and some white casino gangster types who were given tribal membership to help get that casino project going. After it got going they tried to steal it.

The real people, the feather side thought they'd run the gangsters off.

Now they're back trying to add 300 of their gangland backers to the tribal rolls to dilute the vote of the real people and take over the whole tribe, not just the casino this time.

Grifters. :(

Trump built them up to it I bet. Absent Trump I doubt they would have had the nerve.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:45 am 
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Would seem to be a time for the government to step in...except ....

...not our current government.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:40 pm 
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The Picayune Rancheria is a sovereign nation Roy. Two million square feet of sovereign territory. A rectangle one thousand feet by two thousand feet in size.

Here's a map of it:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Picay ... 19.6948195

Our government is not supposed to step in. That might be seen as an invasion of their nation, an act of war.

About three quarters of a mile from my house there is the somewhat smaller Ahwahneechee nation. I like them and they appear to like me. If our nation interferes with the Yokut nation at the Picayune Rancheria, that will naturally upset the Ahwahneechee nation here.

I don't want them pushed into becoming more upset with the USA.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:58 pm 
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People don't get it that some of these small Native American enclaves are indeed as sovereign as anything's going to get in the US territory. There's one that I know of in NM, and one in HI. I'd never heard of the one up north in CA, but now I have. I notice that they have a casino. How very California. Hope it brings in money and makes jobs.

I always wondered about The Navajo Nation. It has a capital and a flag and a radio station (50 kW clear channel). If you go to Window Rock it has several government buildings worthy of the name, near the sacred mountain that indeed has a hole through it. Otherwise it's huge and seems like nothing changes when you drive through it.

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The Navajo Nation has a land area larger than ten of our states, West Virginia, Maryland, Hawaii, Massachusetts, Vermont, New Hampshire, New Jersey, Connecticut, Delaware, or Rhode Island.

A third of a million really nice people. If you had been there in the 60's, you would think there had been a lot of change where the roads end. But no change as seen from the distant view. The long look.


That brings up something to distinguish them from us, but hopefully not get too carried away because it's a stereotype. To stereotype native people and ourselves insofar as outer world point of view.

The point at which "they" begin to view their surroundings as they go through a day begins at the outer edge of what "we" refer to as our yard which surrounds our dwelling. It's at that point "they" look outward to the far horizon. "They" ignore their yard and dwelling spaces insofar as viewing the world they live in.

The point at which "We" begin to view our surroundings tends to diminish as "we" look from inside out of our dwelling, that outward view largely ending at the point at which "they" begin their outward view.

This is a spiritual stereotype. Stereotypes are generally worthless, and that's largely the worth and scope of this one. But it is something fundamental to think about.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:58 pm 
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I always wondered about The Navajo Nation. It has a capital and a flag and a radio station (50 kW clear channel). If you go to Window Rock it has several government buildings worthy of the name, near the sacred mountain that indeed has a hole through it. Otherwise it's huge and seems like nothing changes when you drive through it.
Yeah...last time I was at the Rock, I happened to have met one of the code talkers. I've always had the impression that some of the neighboring nations have commercial issues with the Navajo. But, perhaps, that's partially a result of the Navajo being the largest in the area (I assume.)


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Driving on the New York Thruway you used to see signs saying that, basically, you were leaving the United States and were subject to the laws of the Seneca Nation. Of course there was a large casino and cheap cigarettes. The signs are not like that any more.

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Driving on the New York Thruway you used to see signs saying that, basically, you were leaving the United States and were subject to the laws of the Seneca Nation. Of course there was a large casino and cheap cigarettes. The signs are not like that any more.


Years ago the Salish and Kootenai Tribes on the Flathead Reservation put up signs on the highway like that, then took them down.

It triggered acts of unfocused rage at business along that travel route. Rednecks seeing those signs would fume in their trucks, and then when they saw someone pull over and take it out on them.


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Years ago the Salish and Kootenai Tribes on the Flathead Reservation put up signs on the highway like that, then took them down.

It triggered acts of unfocused rage at business along that travel route. Rednecks seeing those signs would fume in their trucks, and then when they saw someone pull over and take it out on them.

I don’t doubt it. How dare those redskins want their land respected!

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