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For once, Marjorie Taylor Greene is telling the truth: “Our Republican majority is a complete failure.” https://www.yahoo.com/news/complete-fai ... 51307.html

At least we can all agree on that. And to prove her point, she has filed to vacate the House Speaker yet again. Before you blame the Dems again, Joe, remember these are the rules that ALL OF THE GOP VOTED FOR. Dems did NOT vote for these rules.

Time for everyone to put the country first and make Hakeem Jeffries the Speaker. He'll probably have the office after November anyway.

And, we now know what the GOP will be campaigning on this November. A national 15-week abortion ban, plus cutting Medicare and Social Security, as well as ending ObamaCare.

I'm sure you're all on board with these issues, Joe and Glenn.
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Interestingly, the Dems, as always smarter than the complete idiots running the GOP, are looking to make Greene the utter idiot that she is.

Many dems are indicating they will vote to keep Johnson in office, so long as he finally moves to give the Ukraine the aid package they so desperately need to defend their freedom from GOP hero Vladimir Putin. https://www.rawstory.com/marjorie-taylo ... 667581273/

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gounion wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 1:34 pm Interestingly, the Dems, as always smarter than the complete idiots running the GOP, are looking to make Greene the utter idiot that she is.

Many dems are indicating they will vote to keep Johnson in office, so long as he finally moves to give the Ukraine the aid package they so desperately need to defend their freedom from GOP hero Vladimir Putin. https://www.rawstory.com/marjorie-taylo ... 667581273/

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Putin is not a hero to the GOP. Anyone who believes that is just plain fucking stupid.

However that is a very good way to get the aid to the Ukraine which they need. Or 3 Republicans should vote for the democrat for speaker.

It us time for the GOP to stand up to MTG. Factbis the only reason they don't is because evidently she is a fund raising machine.

Finally isn't politics odd. If a republican were in office I have no doubt the gop would be wanting to fund Ukraine and the democratic party would be opposed.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 2:45 pm Putin is not a hero to the GOP. Anyone who believes that is just plain fucking stupid.

However that is a very good way to get the aid to the Ukraine which they need. Or 3 Republicans should vote for the democrat for speaker.

It us time for the GOP to stand up to MTG. Factbis the only reason they don't is because evidently she is a fund raising machine.

Finally isn't politics odd. If a republican were in office I have no doubt the gop would be wanting to fund Ukraine and the democratic party would be opposed.
Not a hero? https://time.com/6757904/trump-russia-republican-party/

And the right has refused the aid because Donald Trump has demanded that they refuse. He's in Putin's pocket.

And no one in the GOP will stand up against MTG, because Trump backs her. But more and more actual Republicans are just quitting. They are done with the insanity.

Your entire party is ran by total idiots. God knows what idiot will replace McConnell.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 2:45 pm Putin is not a hero to the GOP. Anyone who believes that is just plain fucking stupid.

However that is a very good way to get the aid to the Ukraine which they need. Or 3 Republicans should vote for the democrat for speaker.

It us time for the GOP to stand up to MTG. Factbis the only reason they don't is because evidently she is a fund raising machine.

Finally isn't politics odd. If a republican were in office I have no doubt the gop would be wanting to fund Ukraine and the democratic party would be opposed.
We’ll start with the last sentence first. You would be wrong. That can be seen historically from Bush2’s terms until he stepped on his Johnson in Iraq over his daddy issues.

Your comment on Empty Greene is spot on. The Republican Party does not care what kind of an idiot she is as long as money flows in. On a side note, how many Republicans have called for her to be removed or at least not re-elected? Yet, what did it take for Republicans to finally get behind removing Santos? At the same time there have been calls by Democrats, albeit not enough, for Menendez to resign.

Yes, Putin is a hero to many in the GOP due to his hysterical culture wars in Russia. He hates/oppresses those whom the GOP hates/wants to oppress: Muslims, LGBTQ+ etc. I would wager that a very large majority of MAGA which is the largest block within the GOP support Putin.
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bird wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:52 am We’ll start with the last sentence first. You would be wrong. That can be seen historically from Bush2’s terms until he stepped on his Johnson in Iraq over his daddy issues.

Your comment on Empty Greene is spot on. The Republican Party does not care what kind of an idiot she is as long as money flows in. On a side note, how many Republicans have called for her to be removed or at least not re-elected? Yet, what did it take for Republicans to finally get behind removing Santos? At the same time there have been calls by Democrats, albeit not enough, for Menendez to resign.

Yes, Putin is a hero to many in the GOP due to his hysterical culture wars in Russia. He hates/oppresses those whom the GOP hates/wants to oppress: Muslims, LGBTQ+ etc. I would wager that a very large majority of MAGA which is the largest block within the GOP support Putin.
Your last statement is nothing but a talking point and propaganda. Republicans may be opposed to certain policy initiatives but I don’t know of any that think highly of Putin. I agree with those that say we should be funding the war effort in Ukraine. It’s in our national interest to do so. I do not think that those who don’t share my opinion are pro Putin. Are Democrats who have concerns about funding for Israel pro Hamas. I don’t think so. Do you? It’s faulty logic don’t you think?
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JoeMemphis wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:11 am Your last statement is nothing but a talking point and propaganda. Republicans may be opposed to certain policy initiatives but I don’t know of any that think highly of Putin. I agree with those that say we should be funding the war effort in Ukraine. It’s in our national interest to do so. I do not think that those who don’t share my opinion are pro Putin. Are Democrats who have concerns about funding for Israel pro Hamas. I don’t think so. Do you? It’s faulty logic don’t you think?
ALL you do is repeat Trump's talking points. And yes, the GOP are Putin fanboys. They gushed over him when Obama was President and wanted to see him humiliate Obama, even if it was bad for America.

We KNOW Trump is pro-Putin. He called Putin's invasion of Ukraine "genius". If he were President, we'd have boots on the ground helping Putin overthrow Ukraine, and he'd take us out of NATO.

That's the man that controls the GOP. The Senate had negotiated a border deal that gave the GOP everything they wanted, but as soon as Trump said no, it fell apart.

Yes, you support Trump.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:11 am Your last statement is nothing but a talking point and propaganda. Republicans may be opposed to certain policy initiatives but I don’t know of any that think highly of Putin. I agree with those that say we should be funding the war effort in Ukraine. It’s in our national interest to do so. I do not think that those who don’t share my opinion are pro Putin. Are Democrats who have concerns about funding for Israel pro Hamas. I don’t think so. Do you? It’s faulty logic don’t you think?
Republican politicians spending July 4th in Moscow.

Poll the MAGAs. RW religionists see Putin as a standard bearer in a so-called clash of civilizations. RW religionists praising Putin’s anti-LGBTQA+ policies.

Hamas/Israel and Ukraine/Russia is apples and corn on the cob. Israel’s policies have been unsuccessful at resolving the Palestinian issue. Successive terrorist groups from Ararat’s PLA to Hamas are terrorist organizations. Russia invaders Ukraine, period. Your attempted comparison is faulty, don’t you think?
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bird wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:35 am Republican politicians spending July 4th in Moscow.

Poll the MAGAs. RW religionists see Putin as a standard bearer in a so-called clash of civilizations. RW religionists praising Putin’s anti-LGBTQA+ policies.

Hamas/Israel and Ukraine/Russia is apples and corn on the cob. Israel’s policies have been unsuccessful at resolving the Palestinian issue. Successive terrorist groups from Ararat’s PLA to Hamas are terrorist organizations. Russia invaders Ukraine, period. Your attempted comparison is faulty, don’t you think?
No. Not really. It’s dead on in my opinion. Mainstream conservatives and republicans don’t consider Putin a hero and certainly don’t prefer him and his brand over the USA. If you think so then you are too far gone. I don’t dispute there aren’t extremes in both parties that have some radical points of view but mainstream Republicans don’t prefer or hold Putin in high regard and mainstream Dems don’t hold Hamas in high regard. They may disagree with their respective party lines on policy but that doesn’t mean they are support authoritarians like Putin or terrorists like Hamas. Thats propaganda. Surprised you of all people subscribe to it.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:44 am No. Not really. It’s dead on in my opinion. Mainstream conservatives and republicans don’t consider Putin a hero and certainly don’t prefer him and his brand over the USA. If you think so then you are too far gone. I don’t dispute there aren’t extremes in both parties that have some radical points of view but mainstream Republicans don’t prefer or hold Putin in high regard and mainstream Dems don’t hold Hamas in high regard. They may disagree with their respective party lines on policy but that doesn’t mean they are support authoritarians like Putin or terrorists like Hamas. Thats propaganda. Surprised you of all people subscribe to it.
Oh? Who are the “Mainstream Republicans”? I don’t see any. Not in the House. They are quitting in droves, tired of the MAGA bullshit that rules the House.

There’s only a few non-MAGA Republicans in the Senate. BOTH your Senators are MAGA all the way, and you’ll vote for one in November.

There is really no mainstream GOP left. It’s all Trump MAGA, and you like it that way.
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The Republican nominee, and leader of the MAGA Party, holds Putin in high regard. Expressing opinion contrary to Donald's is fraught with danger. They may not like Putin, but their words and actions benefit him.
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Toonces wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 10:16 am The Republican nominee, and leader of the MAGA Party, holds Putin in high regard. Expressing opinion contrary to Donald's is fraught with danger. They may not like Putin, but their words and actions benefit him.
Well I’m not voting for Trump but I don’t think even Trump prefers Putin over the US. I get that makes for a nice talking point for those on the other side.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 10:38 am Well I’m not voting for Trump but I don’t think even Trump prefers Putin over the US. I get that makes for a nice talking point for those on the other side.
Yet you always come to his defense.

He said Putin's invasion of Ukraine was "genius". Funny how you never bring yourself to actually say anything about about what he does.
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I didn't say he prefers Putin over the country.

I said that he holds Putin in high regard and evidence seems to suggest that.

Donald does seem to have a little bit of a crush on authoritarians.

Those who express opinions that contradict Donald will generally find themselves on the wrong side of a social media post. Much of the GOP is afraid of him, so they tend to do things that will keep them in his good graces. Even if it means taking a position that can prove to be a poor choice.

I think the border deal would be a prime example. It may not have been exactly what they wanted, yet it moved towards that end. Committing to that deal did not exclude further changes so why change their minds and kill it? Also, any one of them in Congress or Senate can propose bills, laws, whatever. Doing that, of course, would not be what Donald wants.

It's no way to run a party, let alone a country.

Donald loves him some dictators, he wants to be one. The GOP is afraid to contradict Donald. It's not difficult to see where that leads.
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Toonces wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 11:50 am I didn't say he prefers Putin over the country.

I said that he holds Putin in high regard and evidence seems to suggest that.

Donald does seem to have a little bit of a crush on authoritarians.

Those who express opinions that contradict Donald will generally find themselves on the wrong side of a social media post. Much of the GOP is afraid of him, so they tend to do things that will keep them in his good graces. Even if it means taking a position that can prove to be a poor choice.

I think the border deal would be a prime example. It may not have been exactly what they wanted, yet it moved towards that end. Committing to that deal did not exclude further changes so why change their minds and kill it? Also, any one of them in Congress or Senate can propose bills, laws, whatever. Doing that, of course, would not be what Donald wants.

It's no way to run a party, let alone a country.

Donald loves him some dictators, he wants to be one. The GOP is afraid to contradict Donald. It's not difficult to see where that leads.
Putin is a force to be reckoned with and he’s managed to turn one half of the country against the other. So is he clever? Is he smart? Evidently he is smarter than half of this country’s pols. I’ll let you decide which half. I have my opinion on that one.

Biden has ignored the border for three years. Let’s not ignore that. Perhaps you think that’s a good way to run a country. I don’t think so.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 2:02 pm Putin is a force to be reckoned with and he’s managed to turn one half of the country against the other. So is he clever? Is he smart? Evidently he is smarter than half of this country’s pols. I’ll let you decide which half. I have my opinion on that one.

Biden has ignored the border for three years. Let’s not ignore that. Perhaps you think that’s a good way to run a country. I don’t think so.
What bullshit. Do you think the Republicans in Congress are smart? Yes or no? Make your fucking case.
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Still wondering just what, specific, laws the Biden Administration has been failing to follow.

Also, why Republicans don't bear any responsibility.
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Toonces wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 2:19 pm Still wondering just what, specific, laws the Biden Administration has been failing to follow.

Also, why Republicans don't bear any responsibility.
Releasing thousands of migrants into the country and calling it parole. If you think this administration is taking immigration laws seriously then we have two very different opinions of insuring the laws of the US are faithfully executed. But so be it. We obviously aren’t going to agree. The voters will decide on their own.

I’m not saying Republicans down share some responsibility. I am saying the administration has been directly responsible from the moment Biden took office and he has ignore his responsibility. You may disagree. That’s your choice. But the numbers reflect his flagrant disregard of our immigration laws and border security.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 3:22 pm Releasing thousands of migrants into the country and calling it parole. If you think this administration is taking immigration laws seriously then we have two very different opinions of insuring the laws of the US are faithfully executed. But so be it. We obviously aren’t going to agree. The voters will decide on their own.

I’m not saying Republicans down share some responsibility. I am saying the administration has been directly responsible from the moment Biden took office and he has ignore his responsibility. You may disagree. That’s your choice. But the numbers reflect his flagrant disregard of our immigration laws and border security.
Of course, you have nothing.

And yes, over and over, you don't blame the GOP for ANYTHING. You don't think too few border agents or too few judges are a problem, and you have no problem with Trump blocking the bill that that GOP border hardliners negotiated.

It's so hilarious watching your passive/aggressive bullshit.
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The parole thing is, in fact, legal and has been since 1952. They are approved to be in the country, and are permitted to come usually because of things like war, civil unrest, and the like. From countries such as Ukraine, Cuba. Or Haiti.

Now, if you would like to send Ukrainian women and children back, then I guess you can try to make that case.

So, no, the parole program isn't Biden ignoring the law.
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Toonces wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:22 pm The parole thing is, in fact, legal and has been since 1952. They are approved to be in the country, and are permitted to come usually because of things like war, civil unrest, and the like. From countries such as Ukraine, Cuba. Or Haiti.

Now, if you would like to send Ukrainian women and children back, then I guess you can try to make that case.

So, no, the parole program isn't Biden ignoring the law.
Legal in that it was intended on a case by case basis and not as it’s being used today. You assume that all these folks qualify for asylum and they don’t. You also ignore the fact that we don’t have the resources to track and deport those folks who don’t show up for their court dates or who don’t qualify for asylum. These migrants are being schooled on what to say to game our system. The Biden administration knows all this and is turning a blind eye and willingly being played. Why? Who knows. My guess is that they think it’s in their best political interest. But is the administration “faithfully” enforcing the laws of the US and upholding the Constitution? No.

Now that’s my opinion. You can certainly disagree. But the voters in this country will weigh in on this in November and we will see whom they hold to account. I don’t know what choices they will make at this point. Polls suggest they understand who is at fault for the shit storm at the border. What they will say in Nov is yet to be seen.
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But for the end goal both Title 42 and the 'parole' system were not used for it's original intent. One was used to cage the other to try and add some humanity to the fiasco.

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bradman wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 5:30 pm But for the end goal both Title 42 and the 'parole' system were not used for it's original intent. One was used to cage the other to try and add some humanity to the fiasco.

Please God, forgive those that care not for their fellow human beings. Hail Mary.
Spare me Brad. Most of these folks don’t qualify for asylum. Many of them are being trafficked and abused. This administration is making the cartels rich. You can ignore all that and pretend it’s for the greater good if you choose. I am not persuaded. We have laws. We have rules. We are being played and this administration is willfully turning a blind eye. You can pretend to look the other way or tell yourself it isn’t happening. That’s up to you.

If you want to help these folks do it on your own dime. Don’t obligate the rest of the country without asking. This isn’t our “shared” values. This is Biden doing what he wants despite what the majority of American want. It’s abusive and it isn’t doing a damn thing to solve the underlying problems in those countries or this one.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 5:19 pm Legal in that it was intended on a case by case basis and not as it’s being used today. You assume that all these folks qualify for asylum and they don’t. You also ignore the fact that we don’t have the resources to track and deport those folks who don’t show up for their court dates or who don’t qualify for asylum. These migrants are being schooled on what to say to game our system. The Biden administration knows all this and is turning a blind eye and willingly being played. Why? Who knows. My guess is that they think it’s in their best political interest. But is the administration “faithfully” enforcing the laws of the US and upholding the Constitution? No.

Now that’s my opinion. You can certainly disagree. But the voters in this country will weigh in on this in November and we will see whom they hold to account. I don’t know what choices they will make at this point. Polls suggest they understand who is at fault for the shit storm at the border. What they will say in Nov is yet to be seen.
Here you go again telling us how the “voters aren’t buying what you’re selling” - You’d think you would have learned a lesson.

The border is the ONLY issue you have, which is why Trump didn’t want to have a border deal.

But now the House GOP has put forth their plan for the future - ban abortion, ban IVF, cut Medicare and Social Security, and end ObamaCare, replacing it with nothing but chaos.

Good luck selling that and Donald Trump too.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 5:52 pm Spare me Brad. Most of these folks don’t qualify for asylum. Many of them are being trafficked and abused. This administration is making the cartels rich. You can ignore all that and pretend it’s for the greater good if you choose. I am not persuaded. We have laws. We have rules. We are being played and this administration is willfully turning a blind eye. You can pretend to look the other way or tell yourself it isn’t happening. That’s up to you.

If you want to help these folks do it on your own dime. Don’t obligate the rest of the country without asking. This isn’t our “shared” values. This is Biden doing what he wants despite what the majority of American want. It’s abusive and it isn’t doing a damn thing to solve the underlying problems in those countries or this one.
No, the corporations are making them rich, as they want all the cheap illegal labor they can get. The Governor of Texas looks the other direction while nearly a tenth of all Texas employees are undocumented.

Tell me Joe, if someone asks for asylum, who should decide whether they get it or not.

Run away from that question you gutless worm.
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