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Excerpt from Reddit, link included. Desantis is a bureaucratically inclined fascist authoritarian.

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This is really chilling!

DeSantis joins the pro-Putin MAGA crowd

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... aine-maga/
https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comme ... androidcss

Desantis is a bureaucratically inclined fascist authoritarian.

He uses the cloak of democracy to persecute and punish the "other", like no one else has in government in our history, even in the darkest days of Regan or Nixon, there were still people fighting the good fight, but Desantis will make certain those people are sued, abused, attacked, arrested, deported, or conveniently silenced. Just... like... Putin.

His interest is entirely in gaining power to hurt the people he hates. He does this through systematically replacing anyone has the power to with his cronies and goons. Given his actions in Florida, at the federal level, this will mean an unprecedented presidential overreach because our presidency is imbued with incredible powers that have never been codified into law, or arbitrated in our court system.

Trump never understood the power he had. Desantis will, and it will stun and confuse everyone with shocking efficacy.

Putin represents the sort of governance he wants, defacto control of every level of society with no checks and balances, where he is the big boss, the guy who decides what is acceptable, and what is "anti-american".

Desantis understands that governance can be used like a cudgel to make it harder for people to vote you out or to have any agency at all. A man with no scruples, no decency, no respect for anyone or the rule of law... can destroy the fabric of our country, and truly turn us into a very dark and sad place with nothing but autocracy ahead.(See Russia)

A Desantis presidency will not just end democracy, it will actively persecute anyone who dares speak against him, press, media, protestors, individual citizens will be targeted by his thugs. It will make freedom of speech into "freedom from respect and dignity". A country where the president gets to decide what freedom of speech is, and who can use it.

He understands that the people to the right of center don't much care about what happens to people they disagree with, and people further right actively want those people physically hurt and imprisoned.

Like Putin, Desantis understands that generally people don't like to stand up against real power, when they have relative comfort and stability. They know he is wrong, but as long as they have bread and circuses, as long as no one they know gets arrested, as long as they can excuse the horrific abuse in some way that normalizes it (ie-those people deserve it)... The center will not revolt under him, because he will move on the fringes first, and most people generally don't care about trans folks, certainly not enough to stop him/vote against him. The fear cloaks everything.

Get used to this phrase from your friends and the news "But He can't do that... can he?"



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https://www.city-journal.org/ron-desant ... a-bogeyman

The left is simply lying and exaggerating the things they claim about DeSantis.
Primarily they are afraid if he does become president he could wind up a younger version of Ronald Reagan.
Helping young voters realize just how flawed liberal ideas and programs truly are.
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 5:53 pm https://www.city-journal.org/ron-desant ... a-bogeyman

The left is simply lying and exaggerating the things they claim about DeSantis.
Primarily they are afraid if he does become president he could wind up a younger version of Ronald Reagan.
Helping young voters realize just how flawed liberal ideas and programs truly are.
Ronald Reagan? Are you kidding me?

Would Ronald Reagan ever call a communist invasion of a sovereign country a "border dispute"???

Reagan would call out communist dictators. The commie lover here is DeSantis.
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Lol younger version of Ronald Reagan. What an idiot.

Desantis isnt even conservative. He doesn’t believe in freedom of speech, he wants to control how businesses are allowed to operate, and he’s pro Russia. What a clown.
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Drak wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:17 pm Lol younger version of Ronald Reagan. What an idiot.

Desantis isnt even conservative. He doesn’t believe in freedom of speech, he wants to control how businesses are allowed to operate, and he’s pro Russia. What a clown.
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It's astonishing how far the GOP has moved from Reaganism. Reagan would certainly denounce them. For all my problem with Reagan, he DID believe in this nation, and would NEVER conspire with Russians to interfere with our elections, and he would protect NATO at all costs, and come to the rescue to countries that Russia invaded. He would NEVER let KGB thugs into the Oval Office and give them top secret Israeli intelligence. He would never brag about KGB thugs and hope they made our President look bad.

And he would NEVER say that, if he won the election, he would pull support and let Russia take control of a sovereign nation.

But this is who Glenn and Joe will vote for.
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gounion wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:24 pm It's astonishing how far the GOP has moved from Reaganism. Reagan would certainly denounce them. For all my problem with Reagan, he DID believe in this nation, and would NEVER conspire with Russians to interfere with our elections, and he would protect NATO at all costs, and come to the rescue to countries that Russia invaded. He would NEVER let KGB thugs into the Oval Office and give them top secret Israeli intelligence. He would never brag about KGB thugs and hope they made our President look bad.

And he would NEVER say that, if he won the election, he would pull support and let Russia take control of a sovereign nation.

But this is who Glenn and Joe will vote for.
Let's not forget how the democratic party embraced the Steele Dossier even after they knew it was a false flag
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:34 pm Let's not forget how the democratic party embraced the Steele Dossier even after they knew it was a false flag
Quite the deflection, Glenn. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Makes you look silly.

Tell me that Reagan would sell this nation out like Trump and DeSantis would. Tell me he would knell down to a communist dictator.
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The Steele dossier wasn’t a false flag. It’s sourced HUMINT and RUMINT not meant for public consumption, and was originally handed to authorities by John McCain and Lindsey Graham. A huge portion of the dossier is accurate, and was originally funded by conservatives. Those claiming it’s fake are the same pro Russian sources who claim J6 is fake, or that the Mueller Report exonerated Donald Trump. You know, guys like Devin Nunes, Gym Jordan, Tucker Carlson, etc.
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Drak wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:40 pm The Steele dossier wasn’t a false flag. It’s sourced HUMINT and RUMINT not meant for public consumption, and was originally handed to authorities by John McCain and Lindsey Graham. A huge portion of the dossier is accurate, and was originally funded by conservatives. Those claiming it’s fake are the same pro Russian sources who claim J6 is fake, or that the Mueller Report exonerated Donald Trump. You know, guys like Devin Nunes, Gym Jordan, Tucker Carlson, etc.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/18/politics ... index.html

Funded by HRC

Here is a better link

https://www.cnn.com/2017/10/24/politics ... index.html
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The key word being originally funded.
Are you denying that HRC funded it.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/10/24/politics ... index.html
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 7:04 pm The key word being originally funded.
Are you denying that HRC funded it.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/10/24/politics ... index.html
Fuck you’re stupid. Learn how to read.
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Drak wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 7:08 pm Fuck you’re stupid. Learn how to read.
Like the first paragraph of the link. That states the democratic party and HRC campaign helped pay for the fake dossier

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Glennfs wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 7:04 pm The key word being originally funded.
Are you denying that HRC funded it.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/10/24/politics ... index.html
Back to Reagan, gutless. Or will you be his Judas?
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 7:13 pm Like the first paragraph of the link. That states the democratic party and HRC campaign helped pay for the fake dossier

https://www.cnn.com/2017/10/24/politics ... index.html
I said it was originally funded by conservatives, that’s what I said - learn how to fucking read.

It’s also not a false flag. That’s a Donald Trump line. Christopher Steele worked for British Intelligence at the Russian desk. The Steele Dossier has inaccuracies. Because it’s sources contain RUMINT and HUMINT. Steele has even stated this. It wasn’t for public consumption. But it also contains lots of stuff that’s legit.

Trump is the one who calls it a hoax. Not a surprise since you parrot him all the time.
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The Steele Dossier was actually originally paid for by Republicans.
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gounion wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:24 pm It's astonishing how far the GOP has moved from Reaganism. Reagan would certainly denounce them. For all my problem with Reagan, he DID believe in this nation, and would NEVER conspire with Russians to interfere with our elections, and he would protect NATO at all costs, and come to the rescue to countries that Russia invaded. He would NEVER let KGB thugs into the Oval Office and give them top secret Israeli intelligence. He would never brag about KGB thugs and hope they made our President look bad.

And he would NEVER say that, if he won the election, he would pull support and let Russia take control of a sovereign nation.

But this is who Glenn and Joe will vote for.

Raygun would be spinning. Bragging to Russian spies, in the WH, about firing Comey and getting the Russian investigation off his back then handing over secrets. Then inviting Lavrov back into the oval a few years later.

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Glenn pulls a Judas on Reagan. Run away!
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DeSantis’ policies are no different than Trump’s. It’s MAGA. And I’d say he’s even more extreme. So when someone says they don’t support Trump but they support DeSantis, they’re lying. Well, that and the constant Trump defending and voting for Trumpers.
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Drak wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 7:57 pm DeSantis’ policies are no different than Trump’s. It’s MAGA. And I’d say he’s even more extreme. So when someone says they don’t support Trump but they support DeSantis, they’re lying. Well, that and the constant Trump defending and voting for Trumpers.
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