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Who had it worse Trump or Jesus

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https://www.vice.com/en/article/g5ypd4/ ... ationalism

I honestly can't tell if this is satire and parody or if the article is speaking about actual trumpers.

One way it is funny the other way it is I don't know maybe scarey

Either way enjoy the link
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 11:23 am https://www.vice.com/en/article/g5ypd4/ ... ationalism

I honestly can't tell if this is satire and parody or if the article is speaking about actual trumpers.

One way it is funny the other way it is I don't know maybe scarey

Either way enjoy the link
It's all part of all you and Trump's victimhood. Everybody is out to get Trump, and he's just sooooo innocent.
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gounion wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 11:40 am It's all part of all you and Trump's victimhood. Everybody is out to get Trump, and he's just sooooo innocent.
Sure it is
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troll thread
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 11:23 am https://www.vice.com/en/article/g5ypd4/ ... ationalism

I honestly can't tell if this is satire and parody or if the article is speaking about actual trumpers.

One way it is funny the other way it is I don't know maybe scarey

Either way enjoy the link
You gotta get out more. i can't count the times a Trumper let me know Trump was as close as it comes to a second coming. Kinda like the way some believe Reagan to be a Saint.

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Libertas wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 12:42 pmtroll thread
Exactly how is this a troll thread?
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bradman wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 12:43 pm You gotta get out more. i can't count the times a Trumper let me know Trump was as close as it comes to a second coming. Kinda like the way some believe Reagan to be a Saint.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpE6tmau7jQ
He is looked at by many the same way as followers of people like Joel Osteen look at him.
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Glennfs wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 1:12 am He is looked at by many the same way as followers of people like Joel Osteen look at him.
The more you point out that they are a thief the more their followers believe in them
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The religious leaders who push Trump on their flock are criminals too. Complete frauds, false prophets grifting and stealing from weak minded people. It’s all one giant scam. All tied to organized crime. There is absolutely NOTHING about Trump that is Christ like or Christian in nature. The exact opposite. And although I don’t believe in mythology, it’s interesting that he does resemble the prophecy of the Antichrist.
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Drak wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 7:43 am The religious leaders who push Trump on their flock are criminals too. Complete frauds, false prophets grifting and stealing from weak minded people. It’s all one giant scam. All tied to organized crime. There is absolutely NOTHING about Trump that is Christ like or Christian in nature. The exact opposite. And although I don’t believe in mythology, it’s interesting that he does resemble the prophecy of the Antichrist.
That is interesting, though as an atheist I suppose it is meaningless but who knows.

Yes, most republicans other than a handful like John McCain, who last time I checked is dead, are criminals and liars. Frauds, hucksters, etc.

We just saw Zowie show how bad raygun was, and the cons worship him. I am actually shocked this country has lasted this long.
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It's actually a credit to this country that it's survived the propaganda offensives from its politicians as well as it has.

What with the tools changing every five years now, I'm not going to even try to guess whether this can continue.
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Glennfs wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 1:12 am He is looked at by many the same way as followers of people like Joel Osteen look at him.
The more you point out that they are a thief the more their followers believe in them
Obama, Clinton, Carter, Biden.....When i look at people like that i think liberty and justice for all.

Joel, Ronnie, Trump, DeSantis .....When i look at people like that i can't help but think liberty and justice for me, fuck the rest. That kind of liberty goes against the spirit of "we the people."
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My grim foreboding is that the next right wing hero is going to be an AI. Get the positive feedback loops right and we'll all be glad that software can't serve as President of the United States.

Social media are practically there now.

If Orwell were writing today, Big Brother would be an algorithm. He practically was anyway. By the time of Star Trek, they were putting things like that in their scripts. The Will of Landru comes to mind.
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Both Huxley and Orwell were right.
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I rather enjoyed the original article shared by the OP, it was quite serious, even if the people described in it sound ridiculous.

The thing is, their beliefs might be ridiculous, but I think their danger to our society is quite serious.

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The article is for real.

The question posted as the title of the thread is, on its face, ridiculous.

The purpose of Christian Nationalism is not bringing God back to anything. It is a thirst, a hunger, for political power. Thus it leads to charlatans like Trump and Jackson Lahmeyer who is mentioned with the Pastors for Trump.

What people like Lahmeyer fail to realize is their God is not mocked. By seeking political power they have become that which the Christ called hypocrites.
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It's incredibly hypocritical. Once again they interpret scripture, keep the parts that justify their racist/classist order, and ignore the rest.

Manifest Destiny, indeed.

"God, Guns, Gays" sounds cynical, but I get the idea they really do believe some of their own buzzwords.

In my lifetime I've seen the USA completely transformed by propaganda.
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ZoWie wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:02 am It's incredibly hypocritical. Once again they interpret scripture, keep the parts that justify their racist/classist order, and ignore the rest.

Manifest Destiny, indeed.

"God, Guns, Gays" sounds cynical, but I get the idea they really do believe some of their own buzzwords.

In my lifetime I've seen the USA completely transformed by propaganda.
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The fact that anyone thinks TFG had it worse than Jesus or vice versa shows their stupidity.
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bradman wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 12:45 pm The Bible maybe one book but is has two chapters. If ya don't like living by the new chapter teaching peace and love you can always fall back to the smiting and smoting of the old chapter. It covers all your bases.

It's why i like being Roman Catholic. i can fuck off and sin all week. Come Sunday all i have to do is confess my sins to some guy in a skirt, light a few candles, say a whole bunch of Hail Mary's, and i'm golden. i get another whole week to fuck off again.
Gotta love a God that is all-knowing, all-seeing, that knows the past and the future, but can kill everything on the planet but the occupants of one tiny boat, then regrets doing it, and promises never to do it again. At least, not until the rapture.

It makes no sense.
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I’ve always found it interesting that the Jesus character closely parallels other mythic characters who predate him, such as Mithras, Horus, Krishna and Dionysus
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