Sincere question for my friends here...

[Libertas]

If one assumes this November could be the end of our democracy because of how red state officials will handle certifying elections, counting votes etc what ideas does anyone have here as to how to get the attention of the 50 to 70 million Americans who are likely to once again not vote in November?

You all by now know my idea of having a high profile Democrat accidentally but in reality rehearsed and on purpose let the F word fly in an interview on mainstream media while discussing the extreme danger our democracy is in, but I would love to hear other ideas anyone has.

While I believe red sate officials will do everything in their power to not allow ANY election they lose to be certified, I do also think the more people vote and the bigger the difference in totals the more chance we have of maybe saving America.

We can use social media too.

Wouldnt it take something HUGE to wake these people up? What?

Someone at DU ridiculed my idea by saying most Americans have more important things to worry about like Covid or the economy. That person made my point without realizing it. Those are NOT more important, actually.

[ZoWie]

Correct, but people don't believe there's a threat, so they don't think about it. You know what to do. Find and convincingly put out a credible argument that the threat to the foundation of American government is real enough to warrant action, let alone voting for the right people. Neatness counts. Show all work.

[Libertas]

Correct, but people don't believe there's a threat, so they don't think about it. You know what to do. Find and convincingly put out a credible argument that the threat to the foundation of American government is real enough to warrant action, let alone voting for the right people. Neatness counts. Show all work.

Thanks for responding.

[Motor City]

Well best thing would be to declare that people were businesses that way government would respond immediately to the issues that are most disruptive to them and that the infrastructure was like a millitary thing it would get funding and needed repairs in an instant, bills would sail through both houses and the president would sign them yesterday.

Or the president and both houses could respond to the peoples needs removing disfunction that plagues them and gets in the way of their voting or counts them out. Also be on the side of the people not just in words and catchy phrases but in deeds and transparency do things for them even if corrupt business doesnt like it even if authoritarians hate it especially if those two things happen. do things for the people. if you do that why wouldnt they.

[Libertas]

Well best thing would be to declare that people were businesses that way government would respond immediately to the issues that are most disruptive to them and that the infrastructure was like a millitary thing it would get funding and needed repairs in an instant, bills would sail through both houses and the president would sign them yesterday.

Or the president and both houses could respond to the peoples needs removing disfunction that plagues them and gets in the way of their voting or counts them out. Also be on the side of the people not just in words and catchy phrases but in deeds and transparency do things for them even if corrupt business doesnt like it even if authoritarians hate it especially if those two things happen. do things for the people. if you do that why wouldnt they.

How could the prez or both Houses do ANYTHING when gop obstructs EVERYTHING?

[Motor City]

How could the prez or both Houses do ANYTHING when gop obstructs EVERYTHING?

I dont think the gop is what obstructs biden I think biden likes to get credit for what he might do or could do with the people who most need it the vulnerable and the poor and at the same time he likes to get credit for what he doesnt do for what doesnt change with the people who it is just a luxury or novelty for, the wealthy the comfortable the mean spirited.

[Libertas]

I dont think the gop is what obstructs biden I think biden likes to get credit for what he might do or could do with the people who most need it the vulnerable and the poor and at the same time he likes to get credit for what he doesnt do for what doesnt change with the people who it is just a luxury or novelty for, the wealthy the comfortable the mean spirited.

You dont think when they vote 100% against BBB for instance, what?

Do you know what was in BBB? This is the attitude that kept people from voting for Hillary and look where we are.

[Glennfs]

100pct of your concerns are unfounded. It is amazing to me how the left said for 4 years the election was stolen......then were outraged when trump said the same.
The election wasnt stolen when trump won, it wasnt stolen when Biden won and it won't be stolen in 2022 no matter which party wins. [hopefully the gop]
Keep in mind that trump did recieve somewhere near 75 million votes. That Biden's current approval numbers are lower than trump's were, or at least very close.
The only way for the democratic party to hold onto power is by having a huge turnout. That and of course their usual October surprise BS in close races like Georgia.
No matter which party wins our country and union is still strong and all the talk on LW sites and talk shows about our democracy is lost is 100pct partisan bullshit that should not be believed by anyone.

[gounion]

100pct of your concerns are unfounded. It is amazing to me how the left said for 4 years the election was stolen......then were outraged when trump said the same.
The election wasnt stolen when trump won, it wasnt stolen when Biden won and it won't be stolen in 2022 no matter which party wins. [hopefully the gop]
Keep in mind that trump did recieve somewhere near 75 million votes. That Biden's current approval numbers are lower than trump's were, or at least very close.
The only way for the democratic party to hold onto power is by having a huge turnout. That and of course their usual October surprise BS in close races like Georgia.
No matter which party wins our country and union is still strong and all the talk on LW sites and talk shows about our democracy is lost is 100pct partisan bullshit that should not be believed by anyone.

There was a bit of a difference, and you aren't honest enough to admit it? What did Hillary do when she lost? She conceded.

What did Trump do? He led an insurrection.

And don't tell us it wasn't an insurrection. Just ask Mitch McConnell:

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell disagreed Tuesday with the Republican National Committee’s recent censure of two GOP lawmakers, as well as its characterization of the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol.

“We all were here. We saw what happened. It was a violent insurrection for the purpose of trying to prevent the peaceful transfer of power after a legitimately certified election, from one administration to the next. That’s what it was,” McConnell, R-Ky., told reporters at his weekly news conference.

So which side are you on? America's? Or Trump's?

[Glennfs]

There was a bit of a difference, and you aren't honest enough to admit it? What did Hillary do when she lost? She conceded.

What did Trump do? He led an insurrection.

And don't tell us it wasn't an insurrection. Just ask Mitch McConnell:



So which side are you on? America's? Or Trump's?

Are you going to deny that for 4 years we didn't hear from rank and file liberals and from LW talking heads that trump stole the election.
That question was rhetorical but this one isn't.

Were those believing or stating trump stole the election wrong.
YES or NO

[Motor City]

You dont think when they vote 100% against BBB for instance, what?

Do you know what was in BBB? This is the attitude that kept people from voting for Hillary and look where we are.

we often here the term bi- partisan and the claims but really what we have is homo-partisan because the partisan only goes one way. only conservative and neoconservative. Our homo partisan politics would never allow things that do for people only they will grant privileges and schemes and with exclusivity clauses. If you want the votes empower the voters. do for the voters, no one else is so its wide open untapped bursting with promise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFIPlg8v0-U

Who Got the Covid Relief Money?

[gounion]

Are you going to deny that for 4 years we didn't hear from rank and file liberals and from LW talking heads that trump stole the election.
That question was rhetorical but this one isn't.

Were those believing or stating trump stole the election wrong.
YES or NO

Yes and no. The Russians - provably - interfered in our election, on Trump's behalf. They had also illegally hacked Clinton campaign emails, and was releasing them to Wikileaks and giving Trump the heads up on that. This DID happen.

That DID happen. However, unlike your side, we believe in our Constitution, and everyone from Clinton to Biden to Obama and the rest of the elected Democrats honored the results of the election.

Your side had an Insurrection when they lost. And you aren't honest enough to admit that.

[Libertas]

Yes and no. The Russians - provably - interfered in our election, on Trump's behalf. They had also illegally hacked Clinton campaign emails, and was releasing them to Wikileaks and giving Trump the heads up on that. This DID happen.

That DID happen. However, unlike your side, we believe in our Constitution, and everyone from Clinton to Biden to Obama and the rest of the elected Democrats honored the results of the election.

Your side had an Insurrection when they lost. And you aren't honest enough to admit that.

If these cons think the election was stolen when Biden had EIGHT MILLION more votes, but when Hillary had THREE MILLION more votes and still lost, IMAGINE what the cons would do if trump got 3 million more votes and lost,

MASS VIOLENCE is what would happen.


Just like IMAGINE of a Clinton was putting papers in the WH toilet to remove evidence. You cons really are, and I mean this with every fiber of my being, THE WORST HUMANS ON EARTH.

[Motor City]

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