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bird wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:07 pm What left wing agenda? WHAT FUCKING LEFT WING AGENDA?

I am tired of your crap, Glen. Please tell us what the "left wing agenda" is. And don't give us "look it up" crap. What do YOU think the so-called left wing agenda is? Post it. Now. Then post what the FUCK the Republican party proposes as alternatives.

If the Republican Party takes congress in 2022 I give the country less than 20 years before it implodes.

You really don't think that there is a left wing agenda. We can start by looking at Bernie Sanders and his platform then we can move on to the progressive congressional caucus and its platform and leadership.
Then we can listen to what Mark Pocan has to say when he is on Hartmann once a week.
Then we can look at the 3.5 trillion dollar spending bill and in our spare time we can look at the programs and policies supported by the Biden administration.
Lastly let's not forget to mention the green new deal
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:41 pm You really don't think that there is a left wing agenda. We can start by looking at Bernie Sanders and his platform then we can move on to the progressive congressional caucus and its platform and leadership.
Then we can listen to what Mark Pocan has to say when he is on Hartmann once a week.
Then we can look at the 3.5 trillion dollar spending bill and in our spare time we can look at the programs and policies supported by the Biden administration.
Lastly let's not forget to mention the green new deal
Bernie Sanders has no "platform". He's just a Senator. Parties have platforms, individuals do not.

Mark Pocan doesn't speak for the party. Or does Majorie Taylor Greene speak for the GOP?

And among that spending bill (of which you don't know what's actually in it) one of the things is to give the government permission to negotiate drug prices. Reason enough for you to hate it I guess.
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gounion wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:34 pm We base our views on facts. You admit to basing yours on ignorance.
Don’t recall making such an admission. I just don’t opine on things where I don’t have all the relevant facts. That’s just guessing. That’s just speculation. It’s often wrong. Not my thing. It may be for others.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 5:04 pm Don’t recall making such an admission. I just don’t opine on things where I don’t have all the relevant facts. That’s just guessing. That’s just speculation. It’s often wrong. Not my thing. It may be for others.
Sorry, but feigning ignorance has always been one of your favorite tactics.
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:41 pmYou really don't think that there is a left wing agenda.
Non-Answer there Glenn, you were asked to provide the agenda you claim the left wing has.

State specifics of that Agenda, don't throw names around, give facts.
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marindem01 wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 5:58 pm Non-Answer there Glenn, you were asked to provide the agenda you claim the left wing has.
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gounion wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 5:12 pm Sorry, but feigning ignorance has always been one of your favorite tactics.
Being ignorant is worse. Talking like you know what you don’t know is ignorant.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:04 pm Being ignorant is worse. Talking like you know what you don’t know is ignorant.
No I'm not ignorant. I also don't feign it like you do. I'm pretty well-informed about politics and the news of the day. I was pretty plugged in to everything going on on the Hill while I was in DC. I also have a strong knowledge of Labor issues.

I do know how our elected officials vote, and read extensively on the news of the day from many sources.

When I don't know much about an issue, I've admitted to it. I've learned from other members here.

But I don't feign ignorance, like you do. Like when you pretended you didn't know anything about corporations and the law on the thread on corporations. As a professional accountant, you would have to have a good working knowledge of that.

But it's simply a tactic you use so that you don't have to take a stance on something. It's funny to watch.
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gounion wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:13 pm No I'm not ignorant. I also don't feign it like you do. I'm pretty well-informed about politics and the news of the day. I was pretty plugged in to everything going on on the Hill while I was in DC. I also have a strong knowledge of Labor issues.

I do know how our elected officials vote, and read extensively on the news of the day from many sources.

When I don't know much about an issue, I've admitted to it. I've learned from other members here.

But I don't feign ignorance, like you do. Like when you pretended you didn't know anything about corporations and the law on the thread on corporations. As a professional accountant, you would have to have a good working knowledge of that.

But it's simply a tactic you use so that you don't have to take a stance on something. It's funny to watch.
My training as a professional precludes me from opining on specific cases when I don’t have all the facts. Its not a tactic. People who rattle off bad information and give bad advice get sued in my world.

It’s not ignorance. Speaking when you don’t have all the information is ignorant. It’s interesting that you don’t know or can’t tell the difference.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:28 pm My training as a professional precludes me from opining on specific cases when I don’t have all the facts. Its not a tactic. People who rattle off bad information and give bad advice get sued in my world.

It’s not ignorance. Speaking when you don’t have all the information is ignorant. It’s interesting that you don’t know or can’t tell the difference.
Oh, wait, this is an anonymous message board, isn't it? :lol: :lol: :lol:

It's so funny the tactics you use.
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gounion wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:45 pm Bernie Sanders has no "platform". He's just a Senator. Parties have platforms, individuals do not.

Mark Pocan doesn't speak for the party. Or does Majorie Taylor Greene speak for the GOP?

And among that spending bill (of which you don't know what's actually in it) one of the things is to give the government permission to negotiate drug prices. Reason enough for you to hate it I guess.
Can Glenn explain what the right wing currently offers the American people? What is their platform? Trump didn't run on a platform aside from pushing hate and lies, which they continue to do at hyper levels. What do they offer? What are their policies for the American people? They don't have any.
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Drak wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:05 pm Can Glenn explain what the right wing currently offers the American people? What is their platform? Trump didn't run on a platform aside from pushing hate and lies, which they continue to do at hyper levels. What do they offer? What are their policies for the American people? They don't have any.
Trump's platform is clearly no more immigration.

And WASP.
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Drak wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:05 pm Can Glenn explain what the right wing currently offers the American people? What is their platform? Trump didn't run on a platform aside from pushing hate and lies, which they continue to do at hyper levels. What do they offer? What are their policies for the American people? They don't have any.
The Republicans don’t have a bunch of alternative policies as far as I know. The party not in power typically is just a counter weight to the party that is.

But if we take your statement as a given for the sake of argument, in the lapse of a Republican policy, are we obligated to adopt a bad policy instead. I’m thinking the smart answer is no. I get you think the alternative is wonderful. But it is quite large and the democrats do not have a mandate to create these large entitlement programs. I don’t think the polls demonstrate that either party enjoys that kind of support. Not at this time.
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sam lefthand wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:14 pm Trump's platform is clearly no more immigration.

And WASP.
Might want to pick another subject Sam. Bidens polling on immigration and the border is pretty much in the basement. If he’s got a plan, it certainly doesn’t show.
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Drak wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:05 pm Can Glenn explain what the right wing currently offers the American people? What is their platform? Trump didn't run on a platform aside from pushing hate and lies, which they continue to do at hyper levels. What do they offer? What are their policies for the American people? They don't have any.
And try to do it without invoking white supremacist propaganda phrases like democrat plantation and party of Lincoln.
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The left wing agenda is to tell the truth, always.

Since there is not ONE example of the left doing anything else, we will assume righty is the liar.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:18 pm Might want to pick another subject Sam. Bidens polling on immigration and the border is pretty much in the basement. If he’s got a plan, it certainly doesn’t show.
And you fall right into it. That's what we keep talking about. As soon as Biden stepped into the WH they started in on a fabricated border crisis. We've been talking about this since it began. I guess as per usual you weren't paying attention. Just like the caravans of 2018. This is what is meant by fear based distractions and lies and you fall for it.

So what's the GOP plan for this so called border crisis aside from photo ops, and BS fence walls that cost billions of dollars that can be easily scaled and fall down in the wind?
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JoeMemphis wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:15 pm The Republicans don’t have a bunch of alternative policies as far as I know. The party not in power typically is just a counter weight to the party that is.

But if we take your statement as a given for the sake of argument, in the lapse of a Republican policy, are we obligated to adopt a bad policy instead. I’m thinking the smart answer is no. I get you think the alternative is wonderful. But it is quite large and the democrats do not have a mandate to create these large entitlement programs. I don’t think the polls demonstrate that either party enjoys that kind of support. Not at this time.
The party didn't have a platform even when Trump was running again, either. Typically parties have something to offer. They don't. All they do is push fear based boogiemen and lies.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:18 pm Might want to pick another subject Sam. Bidens polling on immigration and the border is pretty much in the basement. If he’s got a plan, it certainly doesn’t show.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:18 pm Might want to pick another subject Sam. Bidens polling on immigration and the border is pretty much in the basement. If he’s got a plan, it certainly doesn’t show.
Naw, Biden's doing fine Joe. He increased the asylum quota to about four times what it had been under Trump.

There will always be people who will complain if it isn't set for unlimited open borders but that will pass.

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Drak wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:24 pm And you fall right into it. That's what we keep talking about. As soon as Biden stepped into the WH they started in on a fabricated border crisis. We've been talking about this since it began. I guess as per usual you weren't paying attention. Just like the caravans of 2018. This is what is meant by fear based distractions and lies and you fall for it.

So what's the GOP plan for this so called border crisis aside from photo ops, and BS fence walls that cost billions of dollars that can be easily scaled and fall down in the wind?
I didn’t have an issue with Folks applying in Mexico for asylum and waiting there for a hearing date. I’m thinking we got immigration laws. If we expect Folks emigrating from Europe to follow those laws, enforcing them at the southern border as well is a good start.

I think the polling shows, that a healthy majority of people don’t favor an open border policy.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:33 pm I didn’t have an issue with Folks applying in Mexico for asylum and waiting there for a hearing date. I’m thinking we got immigration laws. If we expect Folks emigrating from Europe to follow those laws, enforcing them at the southern border as well is a good start.

I think the polling shows, that a healthy majority of people don’t favor an open border policy.
The Democratic Party doesn't favor an open border policy. Those are lies.

As soon as Joe Biden stepped into the WH the GOP predictably started amping up a "crisis at the border." I've been following along. What crisis at the border suddenly happened that wasn't already there as soon as Biden took office? We had Ted Cruz, Gov Abbott and Lindsey Graham along with a few other clowns wearing military gear and riding around on a patrol boat looking for attention and photo ops within the first few weeks. And it's being amped up and going on ever since. It proves my point. The GOP doesn't run on anything other that whipping the base up into a lather of fear and hate.
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I mean, come on. The mysterious caravan of 2018 didn't even make sense when the GOP controlled the WH, Senate and House at the time. But they were blaming Democrats for the "invaders and gangs along with ISIS that were coming up from the Mexican border!" Then it just disappeared when the election was over. It's just so stupid and dumb.
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sam lefthand wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:29 pm Naw, Biden's doing fine Joe.
He's doing fine to people whose relatives already came here illegally, and will never have to worry about la migra.
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Drak wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:37 pm The Democratic Party doesn't favor an open border policy. Those are lies.
The people who argue for open borders are libertarians. For the rest, "open borders" is a canard. Rightwingers use it and mindless fanbois like Sam Lefthand parrot them.
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