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Bludogdem wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:12 am I agree he should recuse on anything linked to his wife.

He’s been consistent on requests for Executive office info. Alito too. Their thing is congress can only request executive info for legislative purposes.
He has NOT been consistent. He was one of nine - because he obviously didn't want the extent of his wife's involvement in the coup to be made public.

He is proof positive of the corruption of the conservative wing of the SC.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2022 6:39 pm From what I've heard over the years primarily from lw talk radio
Sure, you have.
is scotus started from the beginning simply making up their rules and claiming powers that were and never have been in the constitution
What “lw radio” have you heard this on?

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"Do not concede," Ginni Thomas texted days after the 2020 election to Mark Meadows, the chief of staff to President Donald Trump.
"It takes time for the army who is gathering for his back."

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1507821256367869957


https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/26/us/p ... &smtyp=cur
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carmenjonze wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 5:08 pm Sure, you have.



What “lw radio” have you heard this on?

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I listen to the progressive channel of Sirius about 3 hours a day when working
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Glennfs wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 6:07 pm I listen to the progressive channel of Sirius about 3 hours a day when working
You just made up what you said.
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carmenjonze wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 10:04 pm You just made up what you said.
Not at all I enjoy the progressive shows. They are better produced and far more entertaining.
I listen to Thom Hartmann most every day. I also enjoy Dean Obeidallah and when I'll drive overnight I always listen to whatever is being rebroadcast. Generally it is John Foglaestand [name misspelled]
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Glennfs wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 10:13 pm Not at all I enjoy the progressive shows. They are better produced and far more entertaining.
I listen to Thom Hartmann most every day. I also enjoy Dean Obeidallah and when I'll drive overnight I always listen to whatever is being rebroadcast. Generally it is John Foglaestand [name misspelled]
Ok but I didn’t say you don’t enjoy the shows. I said you made up your story and asked what “lw radio” said scotus started from the beginning simply making up their rules and claiming powers that were and never have been in the constitution.
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carmenjonze wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:22 pm Ok but I didn’t say you don’t enjoy the shows. I said you made up your story and asked what “lw radio” said scotus started from the beginning simply making up their rules and claiming powers that were and never have been in the constitution.
I've learned that what is said, and what Glenn HEARS, are two different thing. He will bring up things like speeches that I hadn't heard, and he wants me to react to what was said. When I look into the actual speech, what he says they said, and what they ACTUALLY said, are often two different things. He seems to have a right-wing filter that everything goes through.
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Glennfs wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 10:13 pm Generally it is John Foglaestand [name misspelled]
I believe you are referring to John Fugelsang. I love him. He turns up a lot as a guest on the Stephanie Miller show.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2022 5:49 pm On this you are correct he should recuse on cases related to 1/6.
As for impeachment based on his wife's political activism. I am assuming I heard the worse of the worse today on Hartmann. While her beliefs are bizarre and extreme nothing she wrote was illegal or suggested violence.
The main one they keep referring to was written on November 20th. In iit she appears to be encouraging fighting the election results in court.
One thing people the people who are calling for Thomas removal aren't considering is the law of unintended consequences.
Once we start down the road of impeaching judges based on their significant other's beliefs there will be no going back.
Not beliefs. ACTIONS.

And Thomas's actions now. He voted to cover up his wife's involvement with the White House.

And of course you still say nothing should be done. I guess it's just like Trump. Thomas could kill someone and you wouldn't want him to have to leave. It's because you're a partisan and a Dem President would get to replace him.
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ProfX wrote: Sun Mar 27, 2022 7:41 am I believe you are referring to John Fugelsang. I love him. He turns up a lot as a guest on the Stephanie Miller show.
Not me, he was one of the loudest bashers of Hillary, still is of any mainstream dem.

I do love the way he goes at so called xtians with actual bible verses, I mean he is a briilliant dude but he was actively working against Hillary, for Bernie and in a damaging way. And I am certain he will do it again if he can.

But he OWNS rightwingers in ways I could never do because he is just way smarter than me and does his homework.
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That's weird. I can't listen to Nicole Sandler's show anymore, esp. on Thursdays. Her fave guest Howie Klein is always an hour of how Chuck Schumer and other Dems suck, and I'm like ... hello? This country is sliding into autocracy, one part has gone full Qcumber, and you're going to rant about how imperfect "Chucky" Schumer is? Priorities?

I didn't think Fugelsang was that way, since he's always on Steffie's show, and TBH, Steffie has always been way more ... pragmatic, sometimes than Randi, as well as Nicole.
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ProfX wrote: Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:59 pm That's weird. I can't listen to Nicole Sandler's show anymore, esp. on Thursdays. Her fave guest Howie Klein is always an hour of how Chuck Schumer and other Dems suck, and I'm like ... hello? This country is sliding into autocracy, one part has gone full Qcumber, and you're going to rant about how imperfect "Chucky" Schumer is? Priorities?

I didn't think Fugelsang was that way, since he's always on Steffie's show, and TBH, Steffie has always been way more ... pragmatic, sometimes than Randi, as well as Nicole.
But pragmatism only changes the slide into autocracy to easing into it. Both sides are serving the same purpose rather than challenge it.
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Are Trump Republicans Fascists?
No, says BU historian Jonathan Zatlin, but they can still be dangerous
https://www.bu.edu/articles/2022/are-tr ... -fascists/

And the Republican Party is in danger of becoming the party of violence, antidemocracy, and racism.

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I see conservatives walking down a really precarious path, one that will endanger us all.

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That's a BU historian, not a pundit, not a board ranter, not a spiritual guru.

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ProfX wrote: Sun Mar 27, 2022 3:06 pm Are Trump Republicans Fascists?
No, says BU historian Jonathan Zatlin, but they can still be dangerous
https://www.bu.edu/articles/2022/are-tr ... -fascists/

And the Republican Party is in danger of becoming the party of violence, antidemocracy, and racism.

[snip]

I see conservatives walking down a really precarious path, one that will endanger us all.

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That's a BU historian, not a pundit, not a board ranter, not a spiritual guru.

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Excellent article, but THIS section is VERY important, dont want the headline to lead people down the wrong path, they are NOT fascists ONLY because

Fascism was a response to long-term trends and what was going on after 1918. What you see today, what Tucker Carlson and Marjorie Taylor Greene are saying, is completely unoriginal. It is an attempt to resurrect those responses in the interwar period to democratic and liberal rule. It’s not clear to me that you can call them fascists, since fascism was a historical phenomenon. Simply because you think violence is good, and you think racism is good, doesn’t make you a fascist.
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Well, I agree with that.

When people used to ask, do I think Trump is a fascist, I would say no, he's an authoritarian right populist. Very much in the mold of Viktor Orban.

But, if pressed, would I describe THAT as "fascist lite"? Yes, yes I would.

Oh Prof! Are you saying that all conservatives or Rethugs are fascists? No. But I AM saying Trumpism and Trumpists are fascist lite, yes, yes I am. And for sure Carlson and MTG fall in that category.

Someone else on this board says, when going to war against fascism, you fight it with what you have, not what perfect people you wish you had. I very much agree with this idea. It's ... pragmatic. If I had the luxury of wasting my time on idealism, I would join the Green Party, knowing it's full of perfect people that never get elected. I don't.

On the point that socio-economic conditions are the vat out of which these monsters emerge, I of course agree, which is why I think we need to pass BBB (and much else besides, but we can start there.)
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ProfX wrote: Sun Mar 27, 2022 3:52 pm Well, I agree with that.

When people used to ask, do I think Trump is a fascist, I would say no, he's an authoritarian right populist. Very much in the mold of Viktor Orban.

But, if pressed, would I describe THAT as "fascist lite"? Yes, yes I would.

Oh Prof! Are you saying that all conservatives or Rethugs are fascists? No. But I AM saying Trumpism and Trumpists are fascist lite, yes, yes I am. And for sure Carlson and MTG fall in that category.

Someone else on this board says, when going to war against fascism, you fight it with what you have, not what perfect people you wish you had. I very much agree with this idea. It's ... pragmatic. If I had the luxury of wasting my time on idealism, I would join the Green Party, knowing it's full of perfect people that never get elected. I don't.

On the point that socio-economic conditions are the vat out of which these monsters emerge, I of course agree, which is why I think we need to pass BBB (and much else besides, but we can start there.)
Yeah, it is a slow boil, we are the frog.

Look at the stuff I said 5 yrs ago here and at DU, that I would take HEAPS of shit for. One example was I called trump a traitor at DU a month after he was elected and more than one regular there challenged me on that; what was I saying!! blah blah He CANT Be a traitor because we havent declared war! Nonsense.

Then things like he and his people WANT TO KILL us, or would kill us to get what they want. I was loudly chastised for that one not that long ago, now it is accepted by anyone paying attention.

But it is getting worse because I think this unwillingness to prepare for red states refusing to certify elections they lose, will be our ultimate downfall. I dont know how much of the civil unrest that will create we can survive. NOBODY Is talking about it.
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gounion wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 1:31 pm He has NOT been consistent. He was one of nine - because he obviously didn't want the extent of his wife's involvement in the coup to be made public.

He is proof positive of the corruption of the conservative wing of the SC.
He has a long history of consistency on the issue of executive privilege.
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i had a friend in high school* that chased the Nirvana thing. He was in constant search of a "Utopia" he was. Heaven here on earth. i was hip. It's a wonderful wish.

Thing is........

http://www.bl.uk/learning/timeline/item126618.html
Sir Thomas More (1477 - 1535) was the first person to write of a 'utopia', a word used to describe a perfect imaginary world. More's book imagines a complex, self-contained community set on an island, in which people share a common culture and way of life. He coined the word 'utopia' from the Greek ou-topos meaning 'no place' or 'nowhere'. It was a pun - the almost identical Greek word eu-topos means 'a good place'. So at the very heart of the word is a vital question: can a perfect world ever be realised? It is unclear as to whether the book is a serious projection of a better way of life, or a satire that gave More a platform from which to discuss the chaos of European politics.
[bold]i would hope it's not impossible. Improbable, i can understand. It's called reality.

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Bludogdem wrote: Sun Mar 27, 2022 7:11 pm He has a long history of consistency on the issue of executive privilege.
Especially when he's covering up for his wife, eh?
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ProfX wrote: Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:59 pm That's weird. I can't listen to Nicole Sandler's show anymore, esp. on Thursdays. Her fave guest Howie Klein is always an hour of how Chuck Schumer and other Dems suck, and I'm like ... hello? This country is sliding into autocracy, one part has gone full Qcumber, and you're going to rant about how imperfect "Chucky" Schumer is? Priorities?

I didn't think Fugelsang was that way, since he's always on Steffie's show, and TBH, Steffie has always been way more ... pragmatic, sometimes than Randi, as well as Nicole.
If you are a fan of John Fugelsang you’ll like this

https://twitter.com/johnfugelsang/statu ... 57989?s=21

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bradman wrote: Sun Mar 27, 2022 7:24 pm [bold]i would hope it's not impossible. Improbable, i can understand. It's called reality.
I guess the deeper problem is would we all agree on what Utopia would look like? Some peoples' utopia others might find a dystopia; we are told to be free to pursue happiness, with the understanding that not everybody will find it in the same places or from the same things.

I've seen the (Right-)Libertarian Utopia. I wouldn't want to live in one. Some argue Bioshock (the game) is what exactly would go wrong in trying to establish something like it. This is why these days they seem to focus on trying to establish it on some oil platform out in the ocean.

There have been many utopian communities established in the U.S. going back centuries. Even to the 1600s. They rarely last very long.

As I said, utopia might be unattainable. People often try and establish it in small communes; even those don't last a long time. The more (not most or ultimately) perfect union, that is what our Founders said we should strive for, I heed the call.
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can you imagine what its like him living with her.

ROFLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL........... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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social democracies dont have the issues problems or stupidity we in capital-con-contries live beneath.

capitalism is a major con.
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