What Sacrificing Americans Would Accept to save Social Security

[carmenjonze]

Good to know.

Your best bet is probably to quit the weird charade you've played with yourself for the past couple years, pretending to not respond. :problem:

I mean, it's one thing to be the dumbest person on this board. But you don't have to actually look like it, on top of it. That's a choice.

Just ilke it's a choice to vote for the dumbest person in Congress election in, election out.

[Toonces]

I mean, it's one thing to be the dumbest person on this board. But you don't have to actually look like it, on top of it. That's a choice

Well...shit.

I work hard at trying to be the dumbest person on the board, and now I find that my efforts aren't being rewarded.

What more do I have to do!?

[carmenjonze]

Today in Internet Literacy is Dead:

If you read the proposal you would see that it includes the same increase across the board plus it proposed raising the cap to 400,000. It also proposed means testing for high income earners.

Whoa Nelly. Back er up there, pardner.

Which proposal are you referreing to?

No shrieking. Well not from me anyway.

You didn't even read your own link.

You even say:

... The link above is a survey so I don’t know how reliable the results may be.

You're not bright enough to answer when asked why you're posting a story you don't even trust, yourself.

Being the laziest person around here, you just slap any old link into your OP then SAY, "The link above is a survey so I don’t know how reliable the results may be." Okay.

But this is the link: New Survey Shows What Sacrificing Americans Would Accept To Keep Social Security’s From Running Out.

It's on MSN, but is really from some outfit called Knews.

WTF is "Knews"?

https://knewz.com
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knewz

Knews is a content aggregator with occasional original stories, formerly owned by News Corp until last year. It's now owned by Empire Media Group, which owns a stable of imitation-TMZ types of 2nd-rate tabloids.

That aside, this article claims the survey was done at University of Maryland, but oddly provides no link to the survey.

Well, here it is. Large Majorities of Republicans and Democrats Agree on Steps to Drastically Reduce Social Security Shortfall - University of Maryland Program for Public Consultation

Unlike standard polls, public consultation surveys take respondents through an online process called a ‘policymaking simulation’ that seeks to put them in the shoes of a policymaker. Respondents were given a briefing on the Social Security program and the projected shortfall, and asked to evaluate arguments for and against proposals addressing the shortfall and increasing some benefits. They were informed about the impact of each proposal on the shortfall. The content of the simulation was reviewed by experts on different sides of the debate to ensure accuracy and balance.

All of the proposals tested have been presented as options by the SSA and scored in terms of their impact on the Social Security shortfall. Most have also been included in proposed Congressional legislation.

Interesting enough methodology. But FWICT, there are actually six proposals here.

And also:

• Questionnaire with Frequencies: https://publicconsultation.org/wp-conte ... Quaire.pdf
• Take the survey yourself: https://survey.alchemer.com/s3/6842663/ ... urity-2022

Might be worth it to look over the 20-page questionnaire and then take the survey, yourself, so you can know WTF you're talking about. You should have already done this work prior to your OP.

[gounion]

Well...shit.

I work hard at trying to be the dumbest person on the board, and now I find that my efforts aren't being rewarded.

What more do I have to do!?

You have, however, always been one of the most amusing folks on the board. Keep it up!

[gounion]

Deciding what you support is voluntary.

So let's be clear: The people you vote for don't support Social Security OR Medicare.

[JoeMemphis]

So let's be clear: The people you vote for don't support Social Security OR Medicare.

So you say.

[carmenjonze]

So you say.

Why didn’t you do due diligence before posting your OP?

[Bludogdem]

What about a single mom with a minimum wage job, with food, fuel and housing prices going up? You're the one that brought up the cost of union dues, which, of course, didn't have anything to do with this, but you didn't care, did you?

I don't have a problem with people making decent wages taking a bit of a hit, but unlike you, I know what those families at the bottom go through. It's obvious you don't give a shit about them.

It doesn't really matter, though. The people YOU vote for have made it clear that if they take control of the House and Senate in November, they're going to be going after Social Security and Medicare.

So, while you SAY you want to strengthen the program, your votes say otherwise.

The single mom you describe is going to receive max SNAP(depending on number of children, $430-$1,400), free childcare through CCDF, public housing or housing vouchers, CHIP healthcare, and depending on number of children a check from the IRS for $7,000-$15,000(3 children-if more add $3,000 per). And free job trading or higher education.

[carmenjonze]

The single mom you describe is going to receive max SNAP(depending on number of children, $430-$1,400), free childcare through CCDF, public housing or housing vouchers, CHIP healthcare, and depending on number of children a check from the IRS for $7,000-$15,000(3 children-if more add $3,000 per). And free job trading or higher education.

Where are you getting this information?

[gounion]

So you say.

No, so they say. If the GOP gets the Senate, Lindsay Graham, who will be the chair of the budget Committee, has already said they will be going after “entitlements”.

[gounion]

The single mom you describe is going to receive max SNAP(depending on number of children, $430-$1,400), free childcare through CCDF, public housing or housing vouchers, CHIP healthcare, and depending on number of children a check from the IRS for $7,000-$15,000(3 children-if more add $3,000 per). And free job trading or higher education.

See earlier “lucky Ducky” cartoon.

[Libertas]

No, so they say. If the GOP gets the Senate, Lindsay Graham, who will be the chair of the budget Committee, has already said they will be going after “entitlements”.

They have been dying to take every penny.

And every con here will vote for their own complete destruction.

[JoeMemphis]

No, so they say. If the GOP gets the Senate, Lindsay Graham, who will be the chair of the budget Committee, has already said they will be going after “entitlements”.

So you say. You are prone to bend whatever someone says to mean what you want. You do it all the time. So YOU say that’s what they intend. The fact you say it doesn’t mean it’s the truth. It rarely is with you.

[carmenjonze]

So you say. You are prone to bend whatever someone says to mean what you want. You do it all the time. So YOU say that’s what they intend. The fact you say it doesn’t mean it’s the truth. It rarely is with you.

no…that’s what they say and they’ve been saying it since the Great Society.

They say it so dupes like you will fecklessly run out and vote for it.

[gounion]

So you say. You are prone to bend whatever someone says to mean what you want. You do it all the time. So YOU say that’s what they intend. The fact you say it doesn’t mean it’s the truth. It rarely is with you.

And when they do go after it, you’ll support them anyway. So this is all concern trolling, as you won’t support anyone who actually wants to strengthen Social Security.

After all, your Senator said he wants to sunset Social Security and Medicare altogether.

[JoeMemphis]

And when they do go after it, you’ll support them anyway. So this is all concern trolling, as you won’t support anyone who actually wants to strengthen Social Security.

After all, your Senator said he wants to sunset Social Security and Medicare altogether.

I already stated earlier that I think the proposals in this survey sound reasonable to me. I don’t really speak or claim to speak for other people. You appear to think you do.

[carmenjonze]

I already stated earlier that I think the proposals in this survey sound reasonable to me.

You're so incompetent, you didn't even read the piece you linked before linking it.

I don’t really speak or claim to speak for other people. You appear to think you do.

Now you're just lying.

Carmen says she doesn’t GAF. So why should I respond?

[Glennfs]

No increases. Zero.

Not even .0% . Leave those who can least afford it alone.

How loud would you be shrieking bloody murder if someone suggested ANY raise in taxes on the rich.

So you are admitting that SSI is a tax.

[gounion]

So you are admitting that SSI is a tax.

And you'll draw the shit out of it, as well as Medicare. So what do you call it?

[Glennfs]

And you'll draw the shit out of it, as well as Medicare. So what do you call it?

I was forced to.pay it so of course I will take what I've paid for

[gounion]

I was forced to.pay it so of course I will take what I've paid for

Just like a conservative. Always with the hands out. But you don't like it when others do it.

[carmenjonze]

So you are admitting that SSI is a tax.

I can’t think of a dumber response than this.

Where, anywhere, in that statement did you see any kind of admission of anything, let alone SSI being a “tax”?

If you have a question to ask me, ask it, instead of desperately grasping at straws like this.

[carmenjonze]

I was forced to.pay it so of course I will take what I've paid for

How come conservative whites your age and older never whined about being forced to pay for Jim Crow?

I’m glad the gubbamint forced paved roads, indoor plumbing, and telephones on you guys, too.