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Author:  ap215 [ Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:50 pm ]
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So long free service web.

FCC announces vote to destroy net neutrality next month

The Federal Communications Commission will vote to put an end to its net neutrality rules next month, commission chairman Ajit Pai said today. The proposal will reverse the Title II classification of internet providers, which allows the agency to put strict limits on their behavior, and replace it with the old “information service” classification, which a federal court has ruled is less comprehensive, weakening any protections that might replace those currently in force.

https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/21/166 ... -announced

Author:  ap215 [ Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:35 pm ]
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New York attorney general says the FCC won’t help investigate fake net neutrality comments

New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman revealed today that his office has been investigating a flood of spam FCC comments that impersonated real people, and criticized the FCC for withholding useful information. In an open letter addressing FCC chairman Ajit Pai, Schneiderman writes that his office has spent six months investigating who submitted hundreds of thousands of identical anti-net neutrality comments under the names and addresses of unwitting Americans. But he says that the FCC has ignored multiple requests for logs and records, offering “no substantive response.”

https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/21/166 ... n-evidence

Author:  bird [ Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:54 am ]
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Dear Sir,

It is always a pleasure to hear conservative/libertarians bleat about government. Micromanage the internet? Not hardly. In fact, not even close. But once again thanks to someone like yourself we will see the internet be based upon class. Those with money will get the best internet service BECAUSE THEY CAN AFFORD TO PAY FOR IT. Those who are already underserved will continue to be underserved. They will have slow speeds along with whatever restrictions the providers wish to apply. The top quintile will be able to pay easily for higher speeds because the cost means little to nothing to them. The bottom quintiles will be forced to pay more for what they are already getting or will have to settle for less. But, hey, that's what class warfare means. One dollar, one vote.

Do everyone a favor and resign. Government "servants" such as you are the reason the country is the mess it is in.

the above was the e-mail I sent to Ajit Pay at the FCC. His e-mail is ajit.pai@fcc.gov.

Author:  ap215 [ Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:16 pm ]
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See you in court & in the voting booth next year Ajit.

The FCC Hopes You're Too Busy With Thanksgiving to Read This

The FCC today finally released the full details of its attack on net neutrality, in the hopes you're too busy preparing for the Thanksgiving holiday to actually read it. We'll save you a little time as you brine your turkey or drive to distant relatives: it's every bit as bad as everyone expected -- and in some ways, quite a bit worse.

http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/The- ... his-140761

Author:  ZoWie [ Thu Nov 23, 2017 3:01 pm ]
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1. The FCC "public comment" period (mandated by Federal law) was a joke. Millions of comments, but most were spam from the GOP war office. We should go back to the days when comments had to be typed up, on paper, in proper legal form, sent by snail mail, in something like quintuplicate, one for each commissioner.

2. Poor cute little millennials thinking they're so hip for cutting the cord and watching TV on their wretched little cell phones and tablets. They think they're getting an incredible deal, which they are... for now.

2a. Future looks like cable TV:

You sign up with an ISP. Someone supplies a box (router/gateway) that connects your LAN to the net. Like now. There's a monthly charge. Like now.

This monthly charge will go down, temporarily, giving the cute little millennials the mistaken impression that they are getting an even better deal.

But what they will be getting is bundling, just like the cord they cut, only more expensive.

"That $29.99 is our basic monthly lifeline rate. You get our wonderful shitty search engine that returns mostly ads and paid rankings. You get our exciting shitty music service with only tunes we get paid to put in rotation. You get lots of ads -- those come no extra charge. You get your location and connection patterns tracked and sold to Big Data, and we don't even charge you for it. Now, you will probably want a plan."

"Plan?"

"Yes, most consumers pick our Silver Package. It's $69.99 a month. You get Google, Wikipedia, and two social networks of your choice not to include Facebook or Twitter."

"What, no more Amazon?"

Ka-CHING!

"Amazon is in our Gold Plan, at least until our contract with them comes up in four months. You also get 32 other exciting sites, including your choice of Facebook or Twitter. That will be $159.99 a month. Should I activate your plan now?"

"Does that include Netflix?"

Ka-CHING!

"Netflix is the Platinum Plan, $199.99 a month, and you also get two other television networks of your choice."

-- and so on, through Platinum Plus ($249.99/mo), up to Unlimited ($499.99/mo). Oh, and they raise it twice a year. And it doesn't include all the various monthly bills from the various providers you still have to sign up with as well. Soon telecom is your third biggest monthly expense, after rent/mortgage and food.

Author:  ap215 [ Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:28 pm ]
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FCC chairman: Stop harassing my family over net neutrality

Federal Communications Commission (FCC) chairman chairman Ajit Pai asked people to stop harassing his family over his attempts to roll back net neutrality provisions.

http://thehill.com/homenews/news/361998 ... neutrality

Author:  rememberearth [ Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:39 am ]
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http://radiofreeliberal.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=21559

we have until Dec 14 to call our congress.

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Author:  Izzzatso [ Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:05 am ]
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http://radiofreeliberal.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=21559

we have until Dec 14 to call our congress.
It does absolutely NO good for me to contact my congresswoman. She is party (GOP) first. BOTH my senators (Dems) stand for net neutrality.

Author:  rememberearth [ Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:43 pm ]
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It does absolutely NO good for me to contact my congresswoman. She is party (GOP) first. BOTH my senators (Dems) stand for net neutrality.

here's another way:

Here’s a super quick and effective way to support net neutrality.

1. On a computer, (not your phone!), go to: www.fcc.gov/ecfs/filings/express
https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/filings/express

2. Enter (under "Proceeding") the numbers 17-108.

3. In comments enter: I support Title 2 oversight of ISPs and I support net neutrality.

*Fill in the form carefully; they've deliberately made it less friendly and impossible to fill in by phone. I think it says a lot about the fairness of their public input process that they made this form impossible to fill out with the most ubiquitous type of computer in use today, a smart phone!
*Copy & Paste and Pass it on.*

Author:  rememberearth [ Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:11 pm ]
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also NOW the ACLU is involved.

https://www.aclu.org/issues/free-speech/dont-dismantle-net-neutrality?redirect=netneutrality-callFB&ms=FB_171114_freespeech_netneutrality

Author:  ap215 [ Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:45 pm ]
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Yeah ok commish.

FCC’s Ajit Pai: ‘When it comes to an open Internet, Twitter is part of the problem’

FCC Chairman Ajit Pai, as part of the plan to promote his plan to undo the country’s net neutrality rules, has thrown Twitter and other online services under the bus in order to show that it’s not just broadband providers that can exert control over internet content. “When it comes to an open Internet, Twitter is part of the problem,” he explained. “The company has a viewpoint and uses that viewpoint to discriminate.”

https://techcrunch.com/2017/11/28/fccs- ... e-problem/

Author:  ZoWie [ Wed Nov 29, 2017 2:14 pm ]
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Online comments were a bad idea, because they were spammed big time by the usual suspects. The commissioners are, as a result, pretty much ignoring them unless they came from telecom giants with legal departments filing huge briefs.

The FCC should go back to requiring written comments on paper in the proper legal format, in quintuplicate, one for each commissioner. Harder to spam those. Not impossible, but harder and more expensive. However I doubt this would be legal.

> "The company has a viewpoint and uses that viewpoint to discriminate." -Agit Prop

You mean like you?

Author:  bird [ Wed Nov 29, 2017 6:33 pm ]
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They must think Americans are stupid!

They're right.

Author:  ap215 [ Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:25 pm ]
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It's up to the American People to change the regime & it starts next year.

FCC Refuses to Turn Over Records to NY Attorney General in Net Neutrality Probe

WASHINGTON — The FCC is declining New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman’s request to turn over records related to the agency’s net neutrality proceeding, citing concerns over privacy and security.

http://variety.com/2017/politics/news/f ... e-comments

Author:  rememberearth [ Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:08 am ]
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HERE WE GO!
https://petitions.moveon.org/sign/the-resignation-of-fcc?source=ads.fb.tao.pai_i1t0h0d0_a8
Quote:
The Resignation of FCC Chairman Ajit Pai

Petition by Gavin Cool

To be delivered to Donald Trump, President
Requesting the resignation of FCC Chairman Ajit Pai, for ignoring 22 million complaints about removing Net Neutrality and for impeding Freedom of Speech on the internet.
There are currently 50,085 signatures. NEW goal - We need 75,000 signatures!

Author:  ap215 [ Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:46 pm ]
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Get ready for a Blue Wave congress next year Ajit.

The FCC Is Blocking a Law Enforcement Investigation Into Net Neutrality Comment Fraud

In addition, the agency told me there was nothing it could do after someone hijacked my identity to claim I falsely supported killing net neutrality protections.

The FCC is blocking a law enforcement investigation into fraudulent comments designed to provide bogus support for the agency’s looming net neutrality repeal. New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman recently announced his office has been conducting an investigation into who submitted millions of fraudulent comments (some using the identities of dead people) during the public comment period.

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/arti ... estigation

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Author:  ap215 [ Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:38 pm ]
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And this will be one of many for days & weeks ahead.

NHMC: We're Suing FCC Over Net Neutrality Rule Rollback

The National Hispanic Media Coalition is not waiting for the FCC's Dec. 14 vote rolling back net neutrality regs to declare it is

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/news/w ... ack/170628

Author:  ap215 [ Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:17 pm ]
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KILLING NET NEUTRALITY HAS BROUGHT ON A NEW CALL FOR PUBLIC BROADBAND

THE FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS Commission’s 3-2 vote to repeal net neutrality rules has many worried that internet service providers will now build the same sort of tiered internet that some other countries have — where individual providers can collude to throttle traffic to certain websites and services in order to shake money from consumers or the companies themselves — or both.

https://theintercept.com/2017/12/15/fcc ... d-seattle/

Author:  ProfessorX [ Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:47 am ]
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On the one hand, it looks like a Republican, Marsha Blackburn, has a bill.

On the other hand, it looks like it sucks. From those fire breathing leftists at Mashable:

Republicans are coming out with a 'net neutrality' plan that will only please internet providers
http://mashable.com/2017/12/19/republic ... kcH7oGcOqp

The bill means the FCC would be required to enforce some elements of net neutrality. Under the new bill, internet providers would not be able to block websites or throttle internet speeds, which are the most basic rules that open internet supporters advocate for.

It would, however, leave the door open for internet providers to begin segmenting their networks and begin charging content providers like Google, Facebook, and other companies for better access to users.

Net neutrality advocates have warned that allowing internet providers to manipulate their networks would effectively destroy the internet, hurting entrepreneurs and passing on higher costs to consumers.

The bill is being championed by Republican Congresswoman Marsha Blackburn, who has previously introduced net neutrality-related legislation. She gave her first interview on the bill to Breitbart.com, claiming that the bill will "settle the net neutrality debate" and "codify the rules of a free and open internet."

[snip]

A copy of a synopsis of the bill provided to Mashable gave some details on the bill. According to the synopsis, the new bill would amend the Communications Act and leave in place much of the FCC's changes voted in last week.

It will also define "reasonable network management practices," a term that is used to reference how internet providers are allowed to manipulate their network so that internet traffic flows efficiently.

Under the bill, the FCC would enforce these rules but also be explicitly prevented from stopping internet providers from creating fast lanes. The Federal Trade Commission is currently tasked with overseeing those kinds of business dealings and would continue to do so under the bill.

More broadly, if the legislation passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, it would put into law the changes recently made by the FCC. Those changes would be difficult to undo in the future.

[snip][end]

Like I said, it's a real mixed bag. Will reverse some of the changes the FCC made. But will also codify into law and make harder to reverse, some of their other changes. It does not restore what most Net Neutrality advocates view as the core of all the principles of network neutrality.

P.S. I hate when people say Obama put Net Neutrality in place in 2015. No, he didn't. The FCC has always had a mission under Universal Service provisions. It's been there since the 1930s. And it's been enforcing some version of net neutrality since, well, the Interwebz came to be. The 2015 Obama era rules were merely codifying more formally some things the FCC had always been enforcing, but they did so because those principles were under attack, by conservatives.

Author:  ap215 [ Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:06 pm ]
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Bucking Trump’s FCC, New York introduces its own net neutrality bill

Since the FCC voted last week to abolish net neutrality regulations, California, Washington, and New York State have vowed to take up the cause. New York is one of the first out the gate.

https://www.fastcompany.com/40509610/bu ... ality-bill

Author:  ProfessorX [ Wed Dec 20, 2017 3:46 pm ]
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Yeah -- btw, I do agree that if the feds won't protect us, this moves to the states.

Unfortunately, next question, will the FCC invoke the Supremacy Clause to try and strike down state-based net neutrality protections? Chucking that "states' rights" mantra of conservatives out the window?

The other problem, of course, is can a state-based net neutrality approach really protect American Internet users, given that chances are they are tapping into stuff outside their state?

I applaud states doing this, but ... we need someone who's not a tool chairing the FCC.

Author:  RitaAnn [ Fri Dec 22, 2017 11:57 am ]
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Yeah -- btw, I do agree that if the feds won't protect us, this moves to the states.

Unfortunately, next question, will the FCC invoke the Supremacy Clause to try and strike down state-based net neutrality protections?


That was my understanding. States rights go out the window when CEO's run the government.

Author:  ap215 [ Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:35 pm ]
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FCC Releases Net Neutrality Rollback Order

Three weeks after the FCC commissioners voted 3-2 to roll back net neutrality rules, the FCC's Wireline competition bureau has released the over 500-page combination declaratory ruling, report and order, and order.

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/news/w ... der/170909

Author:  ProfessorX [ Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:54 pm ]
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It's coming to the Floor. Call your critter if they are not onboard.

Senate bill to reverse net neutrality repeal gains 30th co-sponsor, ensuring floor vote
http://thehill.com/policy/technology/36 ... r-ensuring

A Senate bill that would reverse the Federal Communications Commission’s (FCC) decision to repeal net neutrality received its 30th co-sponsor on Monday, ensuring it will receive a vote on the Senate floor.

Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) announced her support for the bill on Twitter, putting it over the top of a procedural requirement to bypass committee approval.

The bill, which is being pushed by Sen. Ed Markey (D-Mass.), would use Congress’s authority under the Congressional Review Act (CRA) to reverse the FCC’s rollback of its popular net neutrality rules.

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Author:  ap215 [ Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:16 pm ]
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New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo Orders State Not to Sign Contracts With ISPs That Violate Net Neutrality

In a clear middle finger to the Republican-controlled FCC and its chair Ajit Pai, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo signed an executive order on Wednesday mandating that state agencies only purchase internet service from providers who agree to abide by the net neutrality rules the FCC just threw out.

https://gizmodo.com/new-york-gov-andrew ... 1822398754

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