Yep, and Musk has the government funding it.Number6 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 27, 2022 12:49 pm He probably is losing money, for now, but that wouldn't be unusual for launching a new service. It'll take some time for Starlinks to make a profit. I have no doubt Musk will be asking Congress for money to provide internet service through Starlinks for Urkaine.
I mentioned once before that I had Thanksgiving dinner with a relative who is high up at Tik Tok who expressed concerns about Musk's behavior but said he was the visionary of our time and comparing him to Steve Jobs Etc.
I think Musk's problem is his ego is bigger than his abilities. Rarely is there a businessman who runs their corporations by themselves but they have experienced people helping them. To be successful, they have to listen to their experienced people and be willing to change themselves or their opinions so they can bring their vision to success. One of the tenants of management when bringing change is to get others onboard with the change as if the idea for change were their own.
The Woman Who Plans to Make Elon Pay for His Twitter Sins
Earlier this year, as Elon Musk looked increasingly likely to lose his court battle and be forced into purchasing Twitter, Justine De Caires started to get nervous.
Like others, De Caires, a Twitter software engineer of three and a half years, predicted a Musk takeover would come with mass layoffs. Unlike many, the 25-year-old had closely followed the legal battle between the billionaire and the social media company and read every page of the merger agreement. “I get fascinated and interested in things very easily,” explained DeCaires, who uses they/them pronouns.
Twitter higher-ups promised to stick to a generous severance package in the event of a Musk takeover, De Caires says. But the engineer had doubts, and started looking for labor rights attorneys with a history of dealing with powerful tech companies. The first email was to a Massachusetts attorney named Shannon Liss-Riordan, who had filed a lawsuit against Tesla months earlier. The attorney called back that same day.
“It was kind of like, ‘OK, let’s wait and see how this goes,’” De Caires recalled of that first conversation. “But when things started happening—oh, she was ready.”
The mass layoffs at Twitter in November—a proverbial Red Wedding that cut the staff in half—has proven fertile ground for lawsuits. But Liss-Riordan, a labor rights veteran once dubbed “Sledgehammer Shannon,” was perhaps the best-equipped attorney in the country to handle the case. A chatty 53-year-old Boston transplant, Liss-Riordan has sued tech companies from Uber to DoorDash and won judgments of up to $100 million on behalf of their workers.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/shannon-l ... s?ref=home
It's clobberin' time! Go Sledgehammer Shannon!
As long as musk opposes the adults i.e. liberals/democrats, they will support him NO matter what.
H.J. Heinz had a fully electrified assembly line in Pittsburgh in 1890.gounion wrote: ↑Tue Dec 27, 2022 10:15 am But did Musk do it, or did people in his employ do it? Let’s remember that Ford didn’t invent the assembly line - People that worked for Ford did, including Frederick Taylor.
Let’s look at one of the many boondoggles of Musk - like they hyperloop. It’ll never happen.
He is an innovator. Truly “Bleeding Edge”. Top talent runs to work on the future, with him.Number6 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 27, 2022 1:04 pm I think Musk's problem is his ego is bigger than his abilities. Rarely is there a businessman who runs their corporations by themselves but they have experienced people helping them. To be successful, they have to listen to their experienced people and be willing to change themselves or their opinions so they can bring their vision to success. One of the tenants of management when bringing change is to get others onboard with the change as if the idea for change were their own.
False. He’s literally tanking his companies. Guess you’re the moron.
Spacex and Starlink are functioning nicely. Tesla’s production continues to grow with 3 Gigafactories and more in planning stages and continues to make huge leaps in advanced manufacturing and technology. If you’re stupid enough to think a declining stock price will tank the company, well that’s on you. Expect Tesla to have a big stock buyback in 2023.
Lots of other people involved. Tesla is now a disaster, ONLY BECAUSE OF MUSK. And he doesn’t seem to be doing anything at SpaceX or Starlink, for the most part. OTHER PEOPLE are the reasons for the success, not the nut job Musk.
gounion wrote: ↑Tue Dec 27, 2022 9:27 pm Lots of other people involved. Tesla is now a disaster, ONLY BECAUSE OF MUSK. And he doesn’t seem to be doing anything at SpaceX or Starlink, for the most part. OTHER PEOPLE are the reasons for the success, not the nut job Musk.
But then you like nut jobs, don’t you? First Trump, now Musk. You have a thing for rich idiots.
Bullshit. You defend him all the time.
Musk is a fool. You can be brilliant and stupid at the same time. But Musk never proved to be brilliant, but he sure has proved to be stupid.Never have. Musk on the other hand is my cup of tea. Especially when he irritates fools.
Ah yes. You're such a believer in Atlas Shrugged, aren't you?Not a disaster. The stock is down. Teslas production lines hum efficiently. They’ve come up with two piece cast frame. 70 pieces replaced by 2. The rear end is also a single cast piece. With further parts to become single cast A constant state of improved advanced manufacturing. They’ve cranked out around 3 million cars this year. People like musk are natural creators. I prefer they get a wide berth.
No, just idiot "innovative leaders".It must be difficult to be a festering boil of hatred toward innovative leaders. Imagine their wealth is equally disturbing to you. I pity you.
About two years ago Musk was a hero of the left. Today they consider him to be an enemy of the stategounion wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 8:26 am Bullshit. You defend him all the time.
Musk is a fool. You can be brilliant and stupid at the same time. But Musk never proved to be brilliant, but he sure has proved to be stupid.
Ah yes. You're such a believer in Atlas Shrugged, aren't you?
No, just idiot "innovative leaders".
Musk supposedly GAVE all those satellites to the Ukraine for free. But then he shut them down, demanding money. That's not innovative. Blackmail has a long history. That is nothing more than a protection racket.
And let's remember that Musk's self-driving cars have been a fiasco.
As for Tesla, they're dead. First, they're no longer the only electric car on the block. The big automakers are putting out excellent electric cars, so Tesla will now have to compete. And Musk has insulted all liberals, and taking up the Trump and QAnon cause. Tesla isn't Chic-fil-a, where conservatives who love their anti-gay stance flock to them. You'll never see Glenn buy an electric car by ANYONE. Hell, greengrass, YOU don't own a Tesla. And the liberals that WILL buy an electric car won't buy a Tesla any more. Insulting your customers is just stupid.
But stupid is one thing your side loves, isn't it?
I think what we are going to find is all these first run electric vehicles are being over hyped and corporate America is making claims that simply aren't true.
Oh? Prove that the Ford truck won't do what they claim.Glennfs wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 9:12 am I think what we are going to find is all these first run electric vehicles are being over hyped and corporate America is making claims that simply aren't true.
Eventually Ecars will be reliable and probably better than gas vehicles. But, there is a learning curve and no a Ford E truck will not power your house
So from now on you trust everything that corporate America tells you.
So no, you don't have any proof. Didn't think so.Glennfs wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 9:27 am So from now on you trust everything that corporate America tells you.
Common sense tells you that a Ford truck cannot power your home. Justblike common sense tells you that a dodge truck cannot really tow all those vehicles. (remember those commercials)
Or to put it on simple term I don't need to smell shit to know it stinks
