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MSNBC is one studio over from a channel that does financial reports all day, in a famous old building that was constructed by a Rockefeller and sponsored by a radio monopoly, on land formerly owned by an elite Ivy League university, with lobby art of heroic figures building things, one of which was painted over a Diego Rivera mural which was rejected by management because it had a tiny image of Lenin in the background.

The fact that as much gets through the machine as it does, to the point of actually wanting Rachel Maddow on their digitally synthesized "air" even when she wants to go upstate and write books, is a testament to the human spirit.

The real joke in all of this is that, without incessant pitches for Burger King and BulbHead's latest miracle products, it would collapse instantly. It is a grand monument to tenacity that anything of consequence makes it on at all.
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gounion wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 12:13 pm Yeah, he bought the property, and improved it, and is allowing Thomas’ mother to live there for free.

Nothing to see here, move along.

I understand, you support any GOP corruption.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct- ... story.html

You see anything sketchy about this 1.65 million dollar deal
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Like I said, deny, defend, deflect and project. Every time. Always defend anyone with a conservative label, no matter what. Absolutely no regard for ethics and corruption.

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ZoWie wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 12:25 pm MSNBC is one studio over from a channel that does financial reports all day, in a famous old building that was constructed by a Rockefeller and sponsored by a radio monopoly, on land formerly owned by an elite Ivy League university, with lobby art of heroic figures building things, one of which was painted over a Diego Rivera mural which was rejected by management because it had a tiny image of Lenin in the background.

The fact that as much gets through the machine as it does, to the point of actually wanting Rachel Maddow on their digitally synthesized "air" even when she wants to go upstate and write books, is a testament to the human spirit.

The real joke in all of this is that, without incessant pitches for Burger King and BulbHead's latest miracle products, it would collapse instantly. It is a grand monument to tenacity that anything of consequence makes it on at all.
Or the being yelled at about prescription drug side effects every couple of minutes.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 3:23 pm https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct- ... story.html

You see anything sketchy about this 1.65 million dollar deal
Do YOU see anything sketchy for Nazi Boy to buy his mom’s home, fancy it up, and let her stay there for free?

I mean, are YOU offering to buy my house and just let my wife and I stay here for free?
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Drak wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 3:50 pm Like I said, deny, defend, deflect and project. Every time. Always defend anyone with a conservative label, no matter what. Absolutely no regard for ethics and corruption.

Should Abe Fortas have not resigned?
Do you see anything sketchy in that 1.65 million dollar deal. Or only in Thomas 130,000 dollar deal
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 4:03 pm Do you see anything sketchy in that 1.65 million dollar deal. Or only in Thomas 130,000 dollar deal
So you can’t answer my question. Which I’ve asked twice. This thread is about a Supreme Court justice taking bribes from a conservative mega donor. A judge. But you just want to deflect. So answer the question.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 4:03 pm Do you see anything sketchy in that 1.65 million dollar deal. Or only in Thomas 130,000 dollar deal
I’m talking about this deal. But again if you’re getting money from a diner it should be disclosed.

Let’s be clear - I was late putting in my financial disclosure about where all my income came from because I was on the State Dem Board last year. Also my loans and any new real estate deals. That will be public info. If I hadn’t done it by the end of the month, it was going to be a $25 a day fine, up to $750, then a warrant for my arrest.

Why should Clarence Thomas keep all this hidden?
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Ethics watchdog files against Thomas following reports on trips, real estate deal
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-ba ... tate-deal/

An ethics watchdog nonprofit organization filed a civil and criminal complaint against Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas following reports that he did not disclose gifts he received and a real estate deal he made with a major Republican donor years ago.

Citizens for Responsibility & Ethics in Washington (CREW) said in a release on Friday that the Justice Department (DOJ) and Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts should launch investigations into Thomas over lavish trips he received over a period of years that were paid for by Harlan Crow, a Dallas-based real estate developer, and detailed in a ProPublica report last week.

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CREW is nonpartisan, BTW, and has called for investigations of numerous folks in both parties.
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Drak wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 4:07 pm So you can’t answer my question. Which I’ve asked twice. This thread is about a Supreme Court justice taking bribes from a conservative mega donor. A judge. But you just want to deflect. So answer the question.

I am just pointing out the double standard the hypocrisy and the faux outrage.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 4:14 pm I am just pointing out the double standard the hypocrisy and the faux outrage.
Then answer the question. You’re not pointing out jack shit. This thread is about a judge. This thread us about Clarence Thomas. Like I said, defend, deny, deflect, project, etc.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 4:14 pm I am just pointing out the double standard the hypocrisy and the faux outrage.
No, you're saying stupid shit. Like, say a guy was caught robbing five liquor stores.

You're his lawyer. You show a security video showing him going in several times earlier at one of the stores he ended robbing, buying a bottle of liquor. Casing the joint, obviously.

But you'd say "was there anything wrong with the five times he went in and bought a bottle?" as if that proved something.

That's how stupid that is.
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gounion wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 4:20 pm No, you're saying stupid shit. Like, say a guy was caught robbing five liquor stores.

You're his lawyer. You show a security video showing him going in several times earlier at one of the stores he ended robbing, buying a bottle of liquor. Casing the joint, obviously.

But you'd say "was there anything wrong with the five times he went in and bought a bottle?" as if that proved something.

That's how stupid that is.
When the 1.65 millions dollar Obama deal became public knowledge you defended it.

Now a 130k deal involving Thomas and his family and you are outraged.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 11:05 am Talk about faux outrage and the liberal media lying.
It was a 133,000 transaction between the buyer Justice Thomas and family members.

The way the liberal media paints it sounds as if it were some million dollar deal.

As for the faux outrage here it is mainly because of Justice Thomas race.


Admit it asswipe! If this same news were about justice Kagan or Sotomayor you and the rest of the right-wing's heads would explode in rage and it would be 24-7 coverage by all you Trumpsuckers!
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 4:31 pm When the 1.65 millions dollar Obama deal became public knowledge you defended it.

Now a 130k deal involving Thomas and his family and you are outraged.
You should be. He has broken the law over and over on disclosure. Shouldn’t a Supreme Court Justice follow the law?

And if he says he’s ignorant of the law, then why is he on the Supreme Court?

Shouldn’t you call for his retirement?
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“I’m saddened by today’s verdict,” Obama said in a statement issued by his campaign. “This isn’t the Tony Rezko I knew, but now he has been convicted by a jury on multiple charges that once again shine a spotlight on the need for reform. I encourage the General Assembly to take whatever steps are necessary to prevent these kinds of abuses in the future.”
Since no link was provided and i had to go looking for myself......

i don't see it being Nixon's Rebozo.

i'm wondering if Thomas will come up with something similar.
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Motor City wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 3:53 pm Or the being yelled at about prescription drug side effects every couple of minutes.
That's another pet peeve of mine. These are very large and rich companies, they buy full minute spots, and they spend the first 50 seconds showing what a miracle their latest expensive immune suppressing drug is for some autoimmune condition like psoriasis. There are always very pretty people doing things that bring in tons of highly calculated and tested cultural baggage about what most Americans supposedly want out of life. Then in the last 10 seconds, they rattle off all the terrible things that happened to anyone in their trials. "In trials, side effects included death, sudden human combustion, and the occasional detonation of the body affecting a 1000-foot perimeter. Ask your doctor if this stuff is for you. Then give us all your money."

Makes one hate television.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 4:14 pm I am just pointing out the double standard the hypocrisy and the faux outrage.
No, you're just wearing your MAGA Goggles.

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I used to follow Tom Tomorrow (not his real name) on the late great twitter. He has a list of alternative places to find him on other sites, but like the rest of us he's trying to figure how to make any of those sites go as viral as twitter did all on its own.

He's just this guy in New York, with the usual problems, but his enormous (and syndicated!) body of work always seemed to indicate that he gets it. Also, it's funny.
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ZoWie wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 11:32 am I used to follow Tom Tomorrow (not his real name) on the late great twitter. He has a list of alternative places to find him on other sites, but like the rest of us he's trying to figure how to make any of those sites go as viral as twitter did all on its own.

He's just this guy in New York, with the usual problems, but his enormous (and syndicated!) body of work always seemed to indicate that he gets it. Also, it's funny.
He has a knack of hitting the nail on the head, and so many of his strips give us insight to the thinking of people like Glenn.
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All true, his major theme is to needle the Not-So-Silent Majority and its tendency toward kneejerk thinking and its infinite ability to twist reality to fit the bad idea du jour.

Also, being a visual type person, I always associated his cartoonish style with the spirit of our machine-generated age. He was 20 years ahead of the times.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 3:23 pm https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct- ... story.html

You see anything sketchy about this 1.65 million dollar deal
Your link is faulty since it only goes to today's news. If you're talking about Obama's purchase of a strip of land from Tony Rezko then here is an article from FactCheck.
Q: Does Obama have a real estate problem?

A: A political patron from whom he bought a strip of land is under federal indictment, but there’s no evidence Obama did anything improper.

Here’s what happened: In 2005, Barack Obama and his wife, Michelle, bid $1.65 million for a house on the south side of Chicago. According to newspaper reports, the owner was also trying to sell an undeveloped parcel of land adjacent to the property Obama was buying, and he wanted the sales of the two to close on the same day. Obama has said that he mentioned he was buying the house to a longtime political patron, Antoin (Tony) Rezko, a developer. Rezko’s wife wound up buying the lot adjacent to Obama’s. At the request of the Obamas, who were seeking a bit more space for their yard, she later sold them a 10-foot wide strip, or about one-sixth, of her land. The Obamas paid $104,500 for it, or about one-sixth of what Mrs. Rezko had paid for the entire property.

Obama doesn’t appear to have reaped any financial advantages from the transactions. The reason the deal has received a good bit of attention is that Tony Rezko – whose political contributions to Illinois’ former governor, Obama and others totaled in the hundreds of thousands of dollars – was known to be under federal investigation at the time the Obamas were purchasing their home. In 2006, Rezko was indicted in three federal cases: Two involved fraud schemes in which he allegedly demanded payments from firms wanting work from the enormous Illinois teachers’ pension fund and from those wanting favorable rulings from a state board that regulates the building of new hospital facilities. In the third, he was charged with fraudulently obtaining more than $10 million in loans for a pizza restaurant business; in December 2007, prosecutors added more fraud counts to that indictment.

Obama has a relationship with Rezko that dates back many years, but there’s no indication Obama did anything improper. Shortly after finishing law school, Obama, who had turned down a job offer from the developer, went to work at a law firm where he represented some community groups that partnered with Rezko to apply for housing rehabilitation loans. As a state legislator, he wrote letters to city and state officials in support of Rezko’s efforts to build apartments for the elderly with government money; the senator asserts that this was a project the community wanted. Obama got together with Rezko a couple of times a year, he has said.
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You bring up an issue from 2005 that most people have forgotten, isn't relevant to this thread's topic, and through your inuendo is only for the purpose of deflecting and distracting from Clarence Thomas' issues. IOWs, you got nothing.
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There is no way this should not have been reported on disclosure forms.

Clarence Thomas Had a Child in Private School. Harlan Crow Paid the Tuition.
Crow paid for private school for a relative Thomas said he was raising “as a son.” “This is way outside the norm,” said a former White House ethics lawyer.
https://www.propublica.org/article/clar ... ion-scotus

In 2008, Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas decided to send his teenage grandnephew to Hidden Lake Academy, a private boarding school in the foothills of northern Georgia. The boy, Mark Martin, was far from home. For the previous decade, he had lived with the justice and his wife in the suburbs of Washington, D.C. Thomas had taken legal custody of Martin when he was 6 years old and had recently told an interviewer he was “raising him as a son.”

Tuition at the boarding school ran more than $6,000 a month. But Thomas did not cover the bill. A bank statement for the school from July 2009, buried in unrelated court filings, shows the source of Martin’s tuition payment for that month: the company of billionaire real estate magnate Harlan Crow.

The payments extended beyond that month, according to Christopher Grimwood, a former administrator at the school. Crow paid Martin’s tuition the entire time he was a student there, which was about a year, Grimwood told ProPublica.

“Harlan picked up the tab,” said Grimwood, who got to know Crow and the Thomases and had access to school financial information through his work as an administrator.

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ProfX wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 10:51 am There is no way this should not have been reported on disclosure forms.

Clarence Thomas Had a Child in Private School. Harlan Crow Paid the Tuition.
Crow paid for private school for a relative Thomas said he was raising “as a son.” “This is way outside the norm,” said a former White House ethics lawyer.
https://www.propublica.org/article/clar ... ion-scotus

In 2008, Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas decided to send his teenage grandnephew to Hidden Lake Academy, a private boarding school in the foothills of northern Georgia. The boy, Mark Martin, was far from home. For the previous decade, he had lived with the justice and his wife in the suburbs of Washington, D.C. Thomas had taken legal custody of Martin when he was 6 years old and had recently told an interviewer he was “raising him as a son.”

Tuition at the boarding school ran more than $6,000 a month. But Thomas did not cover the bill. A bank statement for the school from July 2009, buried in unrelated court filings, shows the source of Martin’s tuition payment for that month: the company of billionaire real estate magnate Harlan Crow.

The payments extended beyond that month, according to Christopher Grimwood, a former administrator at the school. Crow paid Martin’s tuition the entire time he was a student there, which was about a year, Grimwood told ProPublica.

“Harlan picked up the tab,” said Grimwood, who got to know Crow and the Thomases and had access to school financial information through his work as an administrator.

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OMG Clarence Thomas has a wealthy friend who did things for him and his family.
I have a friend who won the lottery who took his friends on all types of trips.
Notice so far all these accusations have done is to attempt to tar and feather Thomas before the lynching.
No actual proof that any of Thomas rulings were bought or influenced by his rich friend or anyone else.
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ProfX wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 10:51 am There is no way this should not have been reported on disclosure forms.

Clarence Thomas Had a Child in Private School. Harlan Crow Paid the Tuition.
Crow paid for private school for a relative Thomas said he was raising “as a son.” “This is way outside the norm,” said a former White House ethics lawyer.
https://www.propublica.org/article/clar ... ion-scotus

In 2008, Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas decided to send his teenage grandnephew to Hidden Lake Academy, a private boarding school in the foothills of northern Georgia. The boy, Mark Martin, was far from home. For the previous decade, he had lived with the justice and his wife in the suburbs of Washington, D.C. Thomas had taken legal custody of Martin when he was 6 years old and had recently told an interviewer he was “raising him as a son.”

Tuition at the boarding school ran more than $6,000 a month. But Thomas did not cover the bill. A bank statement for the school from July 2009, buried in unrelated court filings, shows the source of Martin’s tuition payment for that month: the company of billionaire real estate magnate Harlan Crow.

The payments extended beyond that month, according to Christopher Grimwood, a former administrator at the school. Crow paid Martin’s tuition the entire time he was a student there, which was about a year, Grimwood told ProPublica.

“Harlan picked up the tab,” said Grimwood, who got to know Crow and the Thomases and had access to school financial information through his work as an administrator.

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