DeSantis' Florida is a mess

[JoeMemphis]

Actually it's happening right on schedule, perhaps even a wee bit ahead. Nature is cyclic, so nothing happens all at once.

FL is not under water yet, neither is Manhattan, and anyone who understands the situation knows that isn't supposed to happen right now. Those are long term effects.

Actually, by the time sea level rise gets critical, conservative economics will have already caused human extinction in quicker ways.

I don't know what poor Al Gore wrote, because I tend to read scientific results, not billionaire poseurs who have time to write books and go on C-SPAN.

At the time Al was the guy. Al was the global warming “expert”. And he claimed to have scientific proof. Except his scientific proof was wrong. Calling something scientific doesn’t make it foolproof. It didn’t then and it doesn’t now.

[ZoWie]

Data not only confirms the theory, but in fact we're a bit ahead of where the best-reasoned guesses were. Al Gore was not the expert here, and the experts are actually pretty correct so far. I can't be responsible for climate theory being caught up in presidential politics, since everything in this country seems to be, and because I never read his damn book, preferring to look at the data.

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Yes, California is a land of microclimates. After all, the highest and lowest places in the CONUS are right next to each other. The landscape is corrugated here due to all the earthquake faults.

I was leaving the desert and the Central Valley out of the CA climate thing, because these are not heavily populated areas. The desert has a lot of Native American land and several vast expanses of military activity, and it will never become one huge Palm Springs. The valley, as we know, is owned by agribusiness and grows much of the country's food.

There's also the northern coast, which no one talks about much, but some people who live there love it. It seems to have warmish summers and rainy cold winters.

I've done NYC summers, and while they're no fun, for me they still beat being down south in hurricane season. LA is a little better than either place in the summer, though the periodic blasts of the "monsoon" are not as unlike NYC summers as people like to convince themselves. The sea breeze traditionally takes the summer off.

Each to their own.

[JoeMemphis]

Data not only confirms the theory, but in fact we're a bit ahead of where the best-reasoned guesses were. Al Gore was not the expert here, and the experts are actually pretty correct so far. I can't be responsible for climate theory being caught up in presidential politics, since everything in this country seems to be, and because I never read his damn book, preferring to look at the data.

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Yes, California is a land of microclimates. After all, the highest and lowest places in the CONUS are right next to each other. The landscape is corrugated here due to all the earthquake faults.

I was leaving the desert and the Central Valley out of the CA climate thing, because these are not heavily populated areas. The desert has a lot of Native American land and several vast expanses of military activity, and it will never become one huge Palm Springs. The valley, as we know, is owned by agribusiness and grows much of the country's food.

There's also the northern coast, which no one talks about much, but some people who live there love it. It seems to have warmish summers and rainy cold winters.

I've done NYC summers, and while they're no fun, for me they still beat being down south in hurricane season. LA is a little better than either place in the summer, though the periodic blasts of the "monsoon" are not as unlike NYC summers as people like to convince themselves. The sea breeze traditionally takes the summer off.

Each to their own.

Data supports the theory? That’s what Al said. And he had climate experts to back him up. But as you say. Each to their own. I can respect that.

[Bludogdem]

Florida will have less population growth when it is half under water.

It’s the normal result of an interglacial warming period. There’s fossilized coral well inland from previous warming periods.

[ProfX]

Toxic Algal Bloom Covering Florida Lake So Big It Is Visible From Space
https://www.newsweek.com/algal-bloom-fl ... ic-1813735

A toxic bloom of blue-green algae is blossoming across Lake Okeechobee in Florida, leading to health warnings and the closure of parts of a local marina.

The bloom was thought to have spread across 380 square miles of the lake as of June 12. It is Florida's largest freshwater lake, and the 10th-largest natural freshwater lake in the U.S.

This algal bloom equated to an area of more than half the lake's 734-square-mile surface. It can be seen from space as pictures taken by NASA's Operational Land Imager-2 on the Landsat 9 satellite demonstrate.

The bloom had grown further to cover 420 square miles by July 4, and 440 square miles by July 15, covering nearly 60 percent of the lake's surface.

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[bradman]

Then there's the sargassum problem from the rear.

Rumor has it the Keys need a new billion dollar fresh water main.

[Bludogdem]

Then there's the sargassum problem from the rear.

Rumor has it the Keys need a new billion dollar fresh water main.

“ The 5,000-mile-wide sargassum seaweed bog in the Atlantic Ocean, once expected to slam Florida’s beaches, has rapidly and mysteriously grown smaller.

“Sargassum amount in the Gulf of Mexico decreased in June 2023, but the magnitude of the decrease (75%) is beyond expectation,” according to researchers at the University of South Florida. “By the end of June, there was very little Sargassum in the Gulf of Mexico and western Caribbean Sea.”

[Motor City]

Toxic Algal Bloom Covering Florida Lake So Big It Is Visible From Space
https://www.newsweek.com/algal-bloom-fl ... ic-1813735

A toxic bloom of blue-green algae is blossoming across Lake Okeechobee in Florida, leading to health warnings and the closure of parts of a local marina.

The bloom was thought to have spread across 380 square miles of the lake as of June 12. It is Florida's largest freshwater lake, and the 10th-largest natural freshwater lake in the U.S.

This algal bloom equated to an area of more than half the lake's 734-square-mile surface. It can be seen from space as pictures taken by NASA's Operational Land Imager-2 on the Landsat 9 satellite demonstrate.

The bloom had grown further to cover 420 square miles by July 4, and 440 square miles by July 15, covering nearly 60 percent of the lake's surface.

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Spreading across the freshwater lake like mass shootings and poverty are spreading across America.

[gounion]

If Florida is so damned pro-business, then why is their top employer taking jobs and business out of Florida and moving them to California?

[Glennfs]

If Florida is so damned pro-business, then why is their top employer taking jobs and business out of Florida and moving them to California?

So once again you are in favor of a corporation having governmental powers.

Isn't that the definition of fascism

Florida unemployment rate 2.6pct

[bradman]

So once again you are in favor of a corporation having governmental powers.

Isn't that the definition of fascism

Florida unemployment rate 2.6pct

And the current U.S. unemployment rate is 3.6%.

[Bludogdem]

2022 saw more California businesses relocate to Florida

https://www.thecentersquare.com/florida ... 1cf43.html

David Bloomberg: The founder and managing partner of early-stage venture capital firm Blumberg Capital left the Bay Area for Miami, the San Francisco Business Times reported earlier this month. “We certainly hope and pray that California will take action to remedy the disastrous self-inflicted political situation and restore its former lustre and quality of life, but for now we are voting with our feet,” Bloomberg said on Facebook, according to the Business Times.
Keith Rabois: Rabois, a general partner at Founders Fund and a former executive at PayPal and LinkedIn, told a Fortune reporter last month that he is leaving the Bay Area for Miami.

Why are Businesses Moving to Florida?

Well, let’s pose a question. Are you tired of paying the high real estate rent prices, tax burdens, and every other cost associated with being located in a traditional business hub? What about the strict regulations on top of an already unfeasible, high cost of living?

Well, you wouldn’t be alone. One of the most prominent reasons why businesses are moving to Florida is due to the state's business-friendly tax policies. But the allure is beyond it’s business-friendly tax nature, the state has a lot to offer. From it's low-regulation policies to its high quality of life, we will examine the key factors driving this migration and why it's important to keep an eye on this trend in the years to come.

https://www.ioptimizerealty.com/blog/wh ... to-florida

[Bludogdem]

If Florida is so damned pro-business, then why is their top employer taking jobs and business out of Florida and moving them to California?

What jobs and businesses are moving to California.

[gounion]

What jobs and businesses are moving to California.

Disney was going to move 2,000 jobs to Orlando, will stay in California.

Plus a reality check on the bullshit about the streams of people from California to Florida. For every six people leaving California for Florida, there are five leaving Florida for California. https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/ ... tis-claims

[Bludogdem]

Disney was going to move 2,000 jobs to Orlando, will stay in California.

Plus a reality check on the bullshit about the streams of people from California to Florida. For every six people leaving California for Florida, there are five leaving Florida for California. https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/ ... tis-claims

So none of those jobs are moving to California. Disney decided to keep them n California.

[JoeMemphis]

So none of those jobs are moving to California. Disney decided to keep them n California.

Dim sum powerful math skills.

[Bludogdem]

Dim sum powerful math skills.

Lacks simple reasoning skills.

[gounion]

Dim sum powerful math skills.

Isn't it funny how Joe is pretending to ignore me?

But he can't. I'm in his head.

[gounion]

So none of those jobs are moving to California. Disney decided to keep them n California.

The math works out the same.

This is your hero, all you supposed pro-business conservatives. You think trying to take over the business of your state's top employer and taxpayer is a smart thing.

You're all idiots. You too, Joe. I know you read this.

[Glennfs]

The math works out the same.

This is your hero, all you supposed pro-business conservatives. You think trying to take over the business of your state's top employer and taxpayer is a smart thing.

You're all idiots. You too, Joe. I know you read this.

Florida unemployment rate 2.6 pct
California unemployment rate 4.6 pct

California deficit 31.5 billion up from a January estimate of 22.5 billion

Florida surplus 21.8 billion

So tell us again which state is being ran better and which has a better governor.

[gounion]

Florida unemployment rate 2.6 pct
California unemployment rate 4.6 pct

California deficit 31.5 billion up from a January estimate of 23.5 billion

Florida surplus 21.8 billion

So tell us again which state is being ran better and which has a better governor.

That doesn't say a thing about how good a governor is. Why is the Florida governor attacking their top businesses?

Didn't you use to be pro-business?

[Glennfs]

That doesn't say a thing about how good a governor is. Why is the Florida governor attacking their top businesses?

Didn't you use to be pro-business?

Those pesky facts keep interfering with your liberal ideas.

I am pro business but antifa therefore unlike you I don't support corporations having governmental powers.

[gounion]

Those pesky facts keep interfering with your liberal ideas.

I am pro business but antifa therefore unlike you I don't support corporations having governmental powers.

Bullshit.

DeSantis wants control of their Florida business. That's the same as nationalizing. What if they wanted to take over, say, the oil companies in Florida?

And why should he now be attacking Anheiser Bush?

[Glennfs]

Bullshit.

DeSantis wants control of their Florida business. That's the same as nationalizing. What if they wanted to take over, say, the oil companies in Florida?

And why should he now be attacking Anheiser Bush?

In your opinion which state is in a bigger mess
Florida with 2.6 unemployment and a 20+ billion dollar surplus
Or
California with 4.6pct unemployment and a 30+ billion dollar deficit

To answer your question he is attacking AB because it is politically expedient

[gounion]

In your opinion which state is in a bigger mess
Florida with 2.6 unemployment and a 20+ billion dollar surplus
Or
California with 4.6pct unemployment and a 30+ billion dollar deficit

To answer your question he is attacking AB because it is politically expedient

California is a much more powerful state. Three times the economy of Florida.

So you support a Republican that attacks and tries to nationalize business? Who attacks business? What would he do as President?

You'd be frothing at the mouth were this a Dem. You'd be calling them a socialist.

Why does DeSantis get a free pass?