E-Cars require 40pct less labor

[Glennfs]

When I was looking at cars a little bit ago, to replace my Ranger, I looked at Ford's lineup. They have a grand total of 1 car, a Mustang. They had no sedans.

A new vehicle was outside of my wheelhouse anyway.

(Ended up with a used Audi SUV)

I have been a huge proponent of Kia and have owned several.
That being said DO NOT BUY A KIA OR HYUNDAI they redesigned their engines and have had a huge problem with the engines locking up around 50,000 miles.

It has something to due with oil pressure

[gounion]

I have been a huge proponent of Kia and have owned several.
That being said DO NOT BUY A KIA OR HYUNDAI they redesigned their engines and have had a huge problem with the engines locking up around 50,000 miles.

It has something to due with oil pressure

I have been a huge proponent of American union workers. Always bought American, always will.

[Glennfs]

I have been a huge proponent of American union workers. Always bought American, always will.

So how many union workers were involved in the building of your home.

4000 Americans build Carolla's in the United States

https://pressroom.toyota.com/facility/t ... ppi-tmmms/

[gounion]

So how many union workers were involved in the building of your home

This is Tennessee. The only building trades here are commercial.

But I will buy union whenever I can. I did make sure that all workers the builder used were documented.

[Bludogdem]

Idiot. I see you palmed that card. You start out with a link that gives you "7 steps to setting the right price for your products or services", yet you don't quote from it. Your bakery stuff is from the SECOND link. Why didn't you quote from the first link? Because of rule #5:



And rule #6:



You say the COST is the only reason that prices are set. Then explain Martin Shkreli. https://abcnews.go.com/US/pharma-bro-ma ... d=82272398



Or the epipen: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/con ... ke-epipens



Don't fucking tell me that costs are what sets prices. You're a lying sack of shit.

I didn’t say cost is the only thing that sets prices. Never have said that. It’s clearly a principle determinant. What I posted are examples of price determination. They exemplify the significance of cost. They exemplify the many variables that influence pricing. But note that all have an emphasis on cost.

Supply and demand is a determinant.

You on the other hand say prices are set solely by supply and demand. No other variables or factors.

Odd that none of the posts I linked say that.

But then I suspect those posts are a bit too complicated for you.

[gounion]

I didn’t say cost is the only thing that sets prices. Never have said that. It’s clearly a principle determinant. What I posted are examples of price determination. They exemplify the significance of cost. They exemplify the many variables that influence pricing. But note that all have an emphasis on cost.


You on the other hand say prices are set solely by supply and demand. No other variables or factors.

Odd that none of the posts I linked say that.

But then I suspect those posts are a bit too complicated for you.

Yes, you DID say that supply and demand has nothing to do with it. You said economics doesn’t teach supply and demand.

Yeah, you can cherry pick but you still can’t pretend that supply and demand doesn’t exist.

It’s hilarious to watch you piss backwards.

[Glennfs]

Yes, you DID say that supply and demand has nothing to do with it. You said economics doesn’t teach supply and demand.

Yeah, you can cherry pick but you still can’t pretend that supply and demand doesn’t exist.

It’s hilarious to watch you piss backwards.

And you claim cost has nothing to do with price

[gounion]

And you claim cost has nothing to do with price

Pricing is based upon supply and demand, not cost. That’s economics 101.

[Bludogdem]

I remember when the Wendys burger was HUGE. Now it's tiny.

But then, I don't eat any of it anymore. They can have it. Getting ready to bake some salmon in foil and have some tomato, cucumber and onion salad.

Try that salmon on a hot flat top. Heavy Olive oil, choice of seasonings, about four minutes per side. Crisp and tender.

On the cucumber salad I use red onion(soaked in water for 15 minutes) and a simple olive oil, rice vinegar, sesame oil dressing.

[gounion]

You might want to take a few general business courses at your local university. They will explain how pricing works. It’s not supply and demand.

Green Grass, you’re a lying sack of shit. You DID say that prices aren’t set by supply and demand.

Be we’ve always known you’re a liar.

[gounion]

Try that salmon on a hot flat top. Heavy Olive oil, choice of seasonings, about four minutes per side. Crisp and tender.

On the cucumber salad I use red onion(soaked in water for 15 minutes) and a simple olive oil, rice vinegar, sesame oil dressing.

I don’t need your advice. Don’t pretend to be some sort of chef, too.

I cook many different ways. The foil method is among the best.

[Bludogdem]

Yes, you DID say that supply and demand has nothing to do with it. You said economics doesn’t teach supply and demand.

Yeah, you can cherry pick but you still can’t pretend that supply and demand doesn’t exist.

It’s hilarious to watch you piss backwards.

I did not say that. Show me where I said it “ it has nothing to do wit it”. You say it’s exclusively supply and demand. I say it’s not. It’s way more complicated. The exampleS I posted say the same. A vast array of college business textbooks say the same.

[gounion]

I did not say that. Show me where I said it “ it has nothing to do wit it”. You say it’s exclusively supply and demand. I say it’s not. It’s way more complicated. The exampleS I posted say the same. A vast array of college business textbooks say the same.

You might want to take a few general business courses at your local university. They will explain how pricing works. It’s not supply and demand.

[gounion]

One of the problems in small-town Tennessee is getting top-quality seafood. I can get FANTASTIC beef any day. Seafood, not so much.

[Bludogdem]

Green Grass, you’re a lying sack of shit. You DID say that prices aren’t set by supply and demand.

Be we’ve always known you’re a liar.

You say it’s exclusively supply and demand. I said it’s not supply and demand. And it isn’t. No one sets prices by supply and demand. Didn’t say there was no influence. The links I provided illustrate the variables of pricing. Not one says it’s only supply and demand. At times supply and demand play part.

[gounion]

You say it’s exclusively supply and demand. I said it’s not supply and demand. And it isn’t. No one sets prices by supply and demand. Didn’t say there was no influence. The links I provided illustrate the variables of pricing. Not one says it’s only supply and demand. At times supply and demand play part.

Again, prices are set by supply and demand. Not cost.

And yes, you basically DID say supply and demand had nothing to do with it. But then, you’re a liar and we all know it. You provided links and posted stuff that ignored supply and demand, and omitted the part that did.

If the prices that are set by supply and demand outstrip your costs, you can either change your business model or go out of business. But, except for monopoly pricing, supply and demand rules.

[gounion]

It’s so funny to watch Green Grass. You know, when I’m wrong, or misspeak, I don’t try to lie my way out. I admit being wrong, even when it’s embarrassing. But, that’s the way I’ve always done things. I learned in the plant, if you screwed something up, you never tried to hide it, you pointed it out, and worked to fix it - that way the boss - and the company - put their trust in you.

But for conservatives, their whole political worldview is based upon lies, and they learn to make lies and to repeat lies. It’s their life.

And Green Grass just can’t help himself. I think his whole life is a lie. I bet this isn’t the ONLY place where he makes up college degrees and credentials and careers - I bet if you met him in a bar, you’d hear the same fucking thing. And I learned a long time ago how to recognize his type right away.

But Green Grass is one of the worst, he doesn’t even ATTEMPT to sound believable. He certainly has earned his nickname of Hap Shaughnessy.

The bigger his hole of lies gets, the deeper his digs.

[Glennfs]

Again, prices are set by supply and demand. Not cost.

And yes, you basically DID say supply and demand had nothing to do with it. But then, you’re a liar and we all know it. You provided links and posted stuff that ignored supply and demand, and omitted the part that did.

If the prices that are set by supply and demand outstrip your costs, you can either change your business model or go out of business. But, except for monopoly pricing, supply and demand rules.

Costs are the number 1 factor in setting price

https://crimsonpublishers.com/siam/full ... per%20unit.

[JoeMemphis]

You say it’s exclusively supply and demand. I said it’s not supply and demand. And it isn’t. No one sets prices by supply and demand. Didn’t say there was no influence. The links I provided illustrate the variables of pricing. Not one says it’s only supply and demand. At times supply and demand play part.

You can’t talk business with a man who thinks he knows more than he really does. GoU has read an Econ book and now he fancies himself a business person. Perhaps he can explain why when the price of fuel goes up the price of most everything hauled by train or truck goes up as well. You can bet you ass everyone who sells goods will work to maintain their margins and will attempt to pass along increases in their costs along to their customers. Happens all the time. If the business people didn’t do that then they would not stay in business very long. But you can’t get that thru the head of a man who thinks he knows more than everyone. He’s more like Trump than he want to admit. And he is wrong much more often than he is right.

[gounion]

Costs are the number 1 factor in setting price

https://crimsonpublishers.com/siam/full ... per%20unit.

Glenn, when you google, believe me, you REALLY need to look at the link. Once again, the first paragraph:

Costs certainly play a role in pricing. However, typically cost-plus pricing assigns the wrong role for costs in the pricing process and that can lead to serious pricing mistakes. The role of costs should be to evaluate the feasibility of a price, not to set the price.

It’s just EMBARRASSING.

No, you go by supply and demand. Say you open a BBQ place, and your cousin gives you free rent. You’re friends with this rancher and can get REALLY cheap high-quality beef and pork from him. But you’ve got a small place. Do you price everything at a tenth of what everyone else is charging? Hell, no, because, for one thing, you can only serve so many people, it doesn’t matter HOW long your lines are.

So, you DO undercut your competition, but if you can fill up your place charging five times what your costs are, you do.

[gounion]

You can’t talk business with a man who thinks he knows more than he really does. GoU has read an Econ book and now he fancies himself a business person. Perhaps he can explain why when the price of fuel goes up the price of most everything hauled by train or truck goes up as well. You can bet you ass everyone who sells goods will work to maintain their margins and will attempt to pass along increases in their costs along to their customers. Happens all the time. If the business people didn’t do that then they would not stay in business very long. But you can’t get that thru the head of a man who thinks he knows more than everyone. He’s more like Trump than he want to admit. And he is wrong much more often than he is right.

Green Grass fancies himself as someone with fifty or so degrees, and has worked in thirty or so careers for 30 years each. He’s came to this board as a sock many times - and has had to admit it when caught out - but go ahead and believe him - you three belong together.

But you did say ONE thing right - a business will always ATTEMPT to pass increases along to their customers. And that will often bite them in the butt, as their customers often will refuse to pay the price.

That has happened several times in gas prices, when the companies charge too much, and the people stop driving as much, causing a glut and prices drop like a rock.

But I guess you never learned that in your Cracker Jack business school, eh?

[Toonces]

At the 50,000 foot view, it's supply and demand.

Costs are an aspect of supply. Can you supply a product that will satisfy demand.

You want to be able to offer supply to meet demand. Demand is A> Desire for the product or service and B> At an acceptable price point.

People who want your product also want it at an acceptable price point. If the market for a widget is $500, you will have less demand if you try and sell it for $1000. You'll have greater demand if you sell it for $200, but if it costs $300 to make you're not going to have supply for very long.

Consumers don't care how much it costs you to make the widget (well, they're not as concerned). They care about two things. 1. Do you have the widget I'm looking for and 2. Is the widget priced accordingly?

I want a red widget and I don't want to pay more than $600. Can you, as a widget manufacturer, meet that particular demand? Both have to be "Yes". And, sure, you can have a consumer who will settle for an orange one.

Thus without supply or demand, all other aspects are meaningless. You can have a fantastic price on your widget but if no one wants to buy it, your costs and your price are irrelevant.

Costs are a component of price, but if your price doesn't match demand...

[gounion]

Toonces, it’s hilarious. We have three conservatives, two of which purport to have degrees in business, who try to deny prices are based on supply and demand. And why? Because I pointed out this basic truth.

If one of THEM had said so, they wouldn’t have said a word, they’d have agreed with them.

So they make themselves into embarrassing idiots.

[gounion]

I mean, here’s from investopedia: https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answer ... prices.asp

The law of supply and demand is an economic theory that explains how supply and demand are related to each other and how that relationship affects the price of goods and services. It's a fundamental economic principle that explains when supply exceeds demand for a good or service, prices fall. When demand exceeds supply, prices tend to rise.

But because I said it, they keep twisting themselves into idiotic pretzels trying to disprove what is accepted as economic reality.

[Bludogdem]

Again, prices are set by supply and demand. Not cost.

And yes, you basically DID say supply and demand had nothing to do with it. But then, you’re a liar and we all know it. You provided links and posted stuff that ignored supply and demand, and omitted the part that did.

If the prices that are set by supply and demand outstrip your costs, you can either change your business model or go out of business. But, except for monopoly pricing, supply and demand rules.

No, you said supply and demand set prices. I said it doesn’t. And supply and demand isn’t the sole arbiter of price. It’s that simple.

If you look at my reply to Toonces it’s obvious that I know prices are not exclusively set by costs. But costs play a big role.