Joe Biden Doing it Again, how much proof do you need

[Glennfs]

Buy American and CHIPs Act.

https://apnews.com/article/biden-harris ... 323e8baf47

https://www.marketplace.org/2022/10/27/ ... ring-jobs/

I do like the CHIPS Act but as for it bringing back or crea610 000 jobs time will tell.

While I doubt it will create that many jobs it is still a step in the right direction.

[JoeMemphis]

I said that it was a serious problem for the Democratic Party. In the real world, that is not high praise.

It used to be that presidents had to be spellbinding public speakers. That was a long time ago. Now, they have to televise well, which Biden doesn't. I said that it is a problem, which it is.

People by and large vote their pocketbooks, and inflation is never good for an incumbent, which is one reason that the lunatic fringe in the House has made sure nothing of substance that might help the Fed control it ever passes. I'll be amazed if there isn't a government shutdown, and given the current people running our media, we all know who will get the blame for that.

I do wish that government was about doing what was best for the country, not sabotaging the other party by any means necessary.

I can agree with that. We need better leadership all around.

[gounion]

I do like the CHIPS Act but as for it bringing back or crea610 000 jobs time will tell.

While I doubt it will create that many jobs it is still a step in the right direction.

You don't like Buy American?

Interesting that the vast majority of Republicans voted AGAINST the CHIPs Act. Hell, Tim Scott voted against it!

[Glennfs]

I said that it was a serious problem for the Democratic Party. In the real world, that is not high praise.

It used to be that presidents had to be spellbinding public speakers. That was a long time ago. Now, they have to televise well, which Biden doesn't. I said that it is a problem, which it is.

People by and large vote their pocketbooks, and inflation is never good for an incumbent, which is one reason that the lunatic fringe in the House has made sure nothing of substance that might help the Fed control it ever passes. I'll be amazed if there isn't a government shutdown, and given the current people running our media, we all know who will get the blame for that.

I do wish that government was about doing what was best for the country, not sabotaging the other party by any means necessary.

Amen to that.

I keep reading articles about different polls where 77pct of the country and 65pct of democrats don't want Biden to run again.

I am beginning to worry that just as THE DNC made it clear that Mrs Clinton was going to be the nominee if they aren't once again miss reading the tea leaves and clearing the path for VP Harris.

Just as they didn't realize the extent of just how polarizing HRC was. I don't think they realize that Harris isn't polarizing she just simply isn't liked.
I also worry that if they run Biden he also might lose to Trump.

It's a shame the DNC didn't have a come to Jesus moment with Biden and "encouraged" him not to run for re-election.

[gounion]

Amen to that.

I keep reading articles about different polls where 77pct of the country and 65pct of democrats don't want Biden to run again.

I am beginning to worry that just as THE DNC made it clear that Mrs Clinton was going to be the nominee if they aren't once again miss reading the tea leaves and clearing the path for VP Harris.

Just as they didn't realize the extent of just how polarizing HRC was. I don't think they realize that Harris isn't polarizing she just simply isn't liked.
I also worry that if they run Biden he also might lose to Trump.

It's a shame the DNC didn't have a come to Jesus moment with Biden and "encouraged" him not to run for re-election.

Yet the GOP WANTS Donald Trump to run again. I'll tell you what it is - Joe Biden beat Trump once already, you don't want it to happen again.

And it wasn't that Hillary was so polarizing, it was that the GOP's politics of personal destruction is very well-honed. And you believe all of it.

I mean, Lauren Boebert can do public sex acts, and all your side wants to be outraged about is John Fetterman not wearing a suit!

[Glennfs]

You don't like Buy American?

Interesting that the vast majority of Republicans voted AGAINST the CHIPs Act. Hell, Tim Scott voted against it!

My car was assembled in the USA. Other than that I don't make many large purchases.
I just bought a refrigerator it's a GE I have no idea where it was built. I bought it at Home Depot

I had a new roof on my house this summer. I have no idea where the shingles came from.

I just bought a new front door that is being built in North Carolina

So claiming I don't buy American is a misnomer. I buy just about the same as almost every other person here.

However whenever possible I do buy non union. As I don't wish to support far left wing political organizations.

[Glennfs]

You don't like Buy American?

Interesting that the vast majority of Republicans voted AGAINST the CHIPs Act. Hell, Tim Scott voted against it!

My car was assembled in the USA. Other than that I don't make many large purchases.
I just bought a refrigerator it's a GE I have no idea where it was built. I bought it at Home Depot

I had a new roof on my house this summer. I have no idea where the shingles came from.

I just bought a new front door that is being built in North Carolina

So claiming I don't buy American is a misnomer. I buy just about the same as almost every other person here.

However whenever possible I do buy non union. As I don't wish to support far left wing political organizations.

[Glennfs]

Yet the GOP WANTS Donald Trump to run again. I'll tell you what it is - Joe Biden beat Trump once already, you don't want it to happen again.

And it wasn't that Hillary was so polarizing, it was that the GOP's politics of personal destruction is very well-honed. And you believe all of it.

I mean, Lauren Boebert can do public sex acts, and all your side wants to be outraged about is John Fetterman not wearing a suit!

The GOP would love it if Trump wasn't the nominee. The only republican running that Biden has a chance at defeating is Trump. I doubt Hartis can defeat even Trump.

As for HRC once again you are so entrenched thar you can't even admit or perhaps admit the obvious.

[ZoWie]

It's hard to buy American when you don't know where all the parts came from, or in many cases, even where they were assembled.

I'd be happy with ANY leadership. The country has been drifting for a couple of decades now, under both parties. Congress is a house divided against itself. Leadership seems to consist mostly of posing and name calling, two things that the Internet and the commercially sponsored Nooz have allowed to grow and take over discourse in general. We've forgotten how to do real discussion and consensus building. It's all pretty inadequate to deal with globally based problems like climate, immigration, and inflation.

It's time to stop blame-shifting for the Hillary disaster, since she and drumpf were just about the worst choice in US history. The parties are to blame for not coming up with real leaders as opposed to media personalities, not that Hillary was even all that good at that.

In the end, the public is to blame, because they are so used to government by media events that they wouldn't know real leadership if it bit them where they couldn't sit down for weeks.

It's time to stop government by who has the best makeup and lighting departments, or who can look the most outrageous on TV.

[gounion]

The GOP would love it if Trump wasn't the nominee. The only republican running that Biden has a chance at defeating is Trump. I doubt Hartis can defeat even Trump.

As for HRC once again you are so entrenched thar you can't even admit or perhaps admit the obvious.

The GOP nominee will be Trump, even if he were in prison. And you won't vote for any Republican in the primary running against him.

[Glennfs]

It's hard to buy American when you don't know where all the parts came from, or in many cases, even where they were assembled.

I'd be happy with ANY leadership. The country has been drifting for a couple of decades now, under both parties. Congress is a house divided against itself. Leadership seems to consist mostly of posing and name calling, two things that the Internet and the commercially sponsored Nooz have allowed to grow and take over discourse in general. We've forgotten how to do real discussion and consensus building. It's all pretty inadequate to deal with globally based problems like climate, immigration, and inflation.

It's time to stop blame-shifting for the Hillary disaster, since she and drumpf were just about the worst choice in US history. The parties are to blame for not coming up with real leaders as opposed to media personalities, not that Hillary was even all that good at that.

In the end, the public is to blame, because they are so used to government by media events that they wouldn't know real leadership if it bit them where they couldn't sit down for weeks.

It's time to stop government by who has the best makeup and lighting departments, or who can look the most outrageous on TV.

You know what is odd is that our country is clamoring for leadership. If either party would or could actually nominate an articulate charismatic leader. That party could or would dominate the political landscape for the next 8 to 16 years.

Instead we get Biden, Trump and Harris. ....sigh

[gounion]

You know what is odd is that our country is clamoring for leadership. If either party would or could actually nominate an articulate charismatic leader. That party could or would dominate the political landscape for the next 8 to 16 years.

Instead we get Biden, Trump and Harris. ....sigh

And you won't vote against him in your primary.

[ZoWie]

Right now any articulate and charismatic leader would need to be mediagenic, and with our current Nooz, looking good on camera and arousing the worst among us is confused with charisma. We get what we deserve, which is some pretty repellent people in positions to do major damage.

[gounion]

I mean, Lauren Boebert can do public sex acts, and all your side wants to be outraged about is John Fetterman not wearing a suit!

https://www.rawstory.com/boebert-2665633864/

This week's decision by Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) to relax the Senate dress code has led to widespread criticism and mockery from Republican lawmakers and commentators directed at Sen. John Fetterman (D-PA), who is notorious for wearing sweats and a hoodie and who is thought to have been the main reason for the rule change.

Undaunted by the criticism, Fetterman hit back on Tuesday, dismissing his critics' choice of priorities with a brutal sideswipe at another member of Congress who recently made the news for how she presented herself in public.

"I figure if I take up vaping and grabbing the hog during a live musical, they'll make me a folk hero," wrote Fetterman.

Fetterman is referring to Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-CO), who last week was ejected from a Denver theater along with her date for causing a disturbance during a performance of "Beetlejuice." Security camera footage showed Boebert vaping in front of a pregnant woman and blowing off her plea to stop.

It also showed her and her date groping each other in full public view, and Boebert could be seen flipping off an usher who escorted them from the premises, demanding if they knew who she was.

[JoeMemphis]

It's hard to buy American when you don't know where all the parts came from, or in many cases, even where they were assembled.

I'd be happy with ANY leadership. The country has been drifting for a couple of decades now, under both parties. Congress is a house divided against itself. Leadership seems to consist mostly of posing and name calling, two things that the Internet and the commercially sponsored Nooz have allowed to grow and take over discourse in general. We've forgotten how to do real discussion and consensus building. It's all pretty inadequate to deal with globally based problems like climate, immigration, and inflation.

It's time to stop blame-shifting for the Hillary disaster, since she and drumpf were just about the worst choice in US history. The parties are to blame for not coming up with real leaders as opposed to media personalities, not that Hillary was even all that good at that.

In the end, the public is to blame, because they are so used to government by media events that they wouldn't know real leadership if it bit them where they couldn't sit down for weeks.

It's time to stop government by who has the best makeup and lighting departments, or who can look the most outrageous on TV.

And we agree again.

[gounion]

It's hard to buy American when you don't know where all the parts came from, or in many cases, even where they were assembled.

Actually, that's all tracked.

[ZoWie]

If you look at old footage you will notice that none of the country's leaders were what what would now be considered charismatic. What they said mattered more than how they looked. None of them photographed especially well, even after cameras stopped needing 30 second exposures, and they certainly didn't use Teleprompters.

That situation had its own problems, where effective live speaking skills could substitute for real aptitude at governing, making campaigning very much like revival meetings. Politics and religion had a real affinity at the time. However, it still seemed to produce better leaders than our current system where we see who comes off best on a very superficial medium dominated by a class with vastly different needs and priorities than the rest of the country.

[Bludogdem]

It's hard to buy American when you don't know where all the parts came from, or in many cases, even where they were assembled.

2023 Cars.com American-Made Index: Which Cars Are the Most American?

https://www.cars.com/articles/2023-cars ... an-467465/

[Glennfs]

You don't like Buy American?

Interesting that the vast majority of Republicans voted AGAINST the CHIPs Act. Hell, Tim Scott voted against it!

Every building trade union has a union hall within 50 miles of your home. You used zero trade unionists to build your home.
Not plumbers
Not painters
Not electricians
Not carpenters
Not roofers
Not flooring
So climb down off the cross. You vote with your wallet just like everyone else.

[gounion]

Every building trade union has a union hall within 50 miles of your home. You used zero trade unionists to build your home.
Not plumbers
Not painters
Not electricians
Not carpenters
Not roofers
Not flooring
So climb down off the cross. You vote with your wallet just like everyone else.

I didn't contract to have my home built. I didn't have the money to contract the home myself and have a custom home built, especially since I was still working in another state at the time.

But you just want to make shit up, don't you? As always, you're grasping for straws.

[Toonces]

I do my own electrical work, but I'm not in a union.

I'm not allowed to join the cats' union which is a shame because, apparently, they negotiated an absurdly good contract that doesn't require them to do any work, unless sleeping is work.

[ZoWie]

I can speak from experience, having watched the LA real estate industry recycle several nice middle class neighborhoods into completely over-the-top expanses of upper-middle-class MacMansions. You hear Spanish spoken on nearly all residential job sites, and I guarantee that most of the laborers don't have all their papers. This situation has been winked at by both parties for something like 90 years now.

[Glennfs]

I didn't contract to have my home built. I didn't have the money to contract the home myself and have a custom home built, especially since I was still working in another state at the time.

But you just want to make shit up, don't you? As always, you're grasping for straws.

Excuses are like assholes everyone has one and they all stink. Plus thanks for admitting that a person with a very high income can't afford union labor

[gounion]

Excuses are like assholes everyone has one and they all stink. Plus thanks for admitting that a person with a very high income can't afford union labor

Can't tell the truth to save your life, can you?

[ap215]

Under pressure over border, Biden administration to protect hundreds of thousands of Venezuelans

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Biden administration said Wednesday that it was granting temporary legal status to hundreds of thousands of Venezuelans who are already in the country — quickly making them eligible to work — as it grapples with growing numbers of people fleeing the South American country and elsewhere to arrive at the U.S. border with Mexico.

The move — along with promises to accelerate work permits for many migrants — may appease Democratic leaders who have pressured the White House to do more to aid asylum seekers, while also providing grist for Republicans who say the president has been too lax on immigration.

https://apnews.com/article/biden-immigr ... 0ee23067f4