Number6 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2023 1:41 pm
I could see the judge be fed up with TFG's antics and threaten him with jail. If TFG continued to violate the judge's order then TFG guy should be jailed to show TFG not to mess with the judge. Give his about five days in the Fulton County Jail and then have the judge tell TFG if he violates the judge's order again he'll be locked up until his trial is over.
Five days in the pokey should cause him to change his way and obey the judge.
Trump is definitely going to violate and the judge is definitely going to get fed up. How the judge figures our how to handle it is yet to be seen.
I wonder if holding him in contempt and placing him in a holding cell for 12 to 24 hours would be a come to Jesus moment for Trump
Glennfs wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2023 2:30 pm
Trump is definitely going to violate and the judge is definitely going to get fed up. How the judge figures our how to handle it is yet to be seen.
I wonder if holding him in contempt and placing him in a holding cell for 12 to 24 hours would be a come to Jesus moment for Trump
You'd be screaming that he's being mistreated. After all he's above the law.
While examining how Americans' view of Rudy Giuliani has plummeted over the past 21 years, a senior data reporter for CNN was left stunned on the air.
"Look at this — a drop of 60 points over the last 21 years," reporter Harry Enten said on the network during a recent segment. While he spoke, a graphic displayed Giuliani's favorability shortly after leaving the office of New York City mayor in 2002 (a stellar 76%) beside his favorability amid his present-day legal battles (16%).
Enten continued: "I've never seen anything like this. I remember when Rudy was a hero in the city in New York, and look at what he is now. He is, for most Americans, just a disgrace — at least, according to the polling data."
Rudy Giuliani conceded in a court filing that he made false statements when he said two Georgia election workers mishandled ballots during the 2020 election.
In 2021, Ruby Freeman and Wandrea "Shaye" Moss, who are mother and daughter, filed a defamation lawsuit against Giuliani for these accusations in the federal court in Washington, D.C.
And in his latest court filings for this case, the former New York City mayor backed off his previous statements.
All the stuff about Hunter Biden came straight from Rudy, and there’s no proof of it at all. Just because you WANT something to be true doesn’t mean it is.
Glennfs wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2023 2:30 pm
Trump is definitely going to violate and the judge is definitely going to get fed up. How the judge figures our how to handle it is yet to be seen.
I wonder if holding him in contempt and placing him in a holding cell for 12 to 24 hours would be a come to Jesus moment for Trump
Five days without a Big Mac and a Diet Coke, no golf, being confined to an area the size of a moderate-sized bedroom, wearing a jail jump suit, and he'll break before the first 24-hours.
gounion wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2023 12:14 pm
I'm quite sure the right will say she's really not guilty, just doing so to avoid jail time from an overzealous prosecutor.
To conservatives, Republicans aren't guilty even when they admit to be guilty. It's all a democratic plot!
What she can say might be limited because as an attorney for TFG, she still has client-attorney privilege unless TFG releases her from that privilege, which I'm 99.9% sure he won't. Now she could violate the client-attorney privilege but that would open her up a a lawsuit by TFG and although she appears to be crazy at times she's smart enough not to put herself in that position.
Number6 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2023 1:44 pm
What she can say might be limited because as an attorney for TFG, she still has client-attorney privilege unless TFG releases her from that privilege, which I'm 99.9% sure he won't. Now she could violate the client-attorney privilege but that would open her up a a lawsuit by TFG and although she appears to be crazy at times she's smart enough not to put herself in that position.
If her actions were in furtherance of a crime, there are no client-attorney privileges. So, if she was in on the crime, there are no protections
Number6 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2023 1:44 pm
What she can say might be limited because as an attorney for TFG, she still has client-attorney privilege unless TFG releases her from that privilege, which I'm 99.9% sure he won't. Now she could violate the client-attorney privilege but that would open her up a a lawsuit by TFG and although she appears to be crazy at times she's smart enough not to put herself in that position.
I think Toonces is right. She has no such privilege here. She has pledged to testify truthfully, and I'm quite sure she's had to spill her guts to the DA under oath. She can't change her testimony from that, or back into court she goes. She's going to be on probation for six years.
Toonces wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2023 2:01 pm
If her actions were in furtherance of a crime, there are no client-attorney privileges. So, if she was in on the crime, there are no protections
I should have explained further. Listening to MSNBC this morning, they were discussing her attorney-client privilege and IIRC correctly they said in the Georgia case she would lose attorney-client privilege but she would still retain attorney-client privilege in all other matters. If that's correct, then Jack Smith couldn't require her to testify against TFG unless the court orders her to or TFG releases her from that privilege because Smith's case and the Georgia case are about different crimes and since she's pleaded guilty in Georgia she loses attorney-client privilege.
Glennfs wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2023 7:36 pm
Lying again I see
You're the one lying. You're the one that attacks the prosecutor in both New York and Georgia.
In New York, Trump's already been found guilty. But you attack it anyway. Is it the color of the judges and prosecutors that bother you, like they bother Trump?
You know he committed these crimes, yet you hate the idea of him paying any price at all.
Well, in a development that should surprise NO ONE, Kenneth Chesebro had accepted a plea deal and has admitted guilt, and will turn state's evidence against Trump and others.
Well, Fani Willis already has THREE guilty pleas in her case. Tell me again, Glenn, why she shouldn't be doing her job for the people of Georgia. Hard to call it a witch hunt when people are admitting their guilt.
Well, in a development that should surprise NO ONE, Kenneth Chesebro had accepted a plea deal and has admitted guilt, and will turn state's evidence against Trump and others.
Well, Fani Willis already has THREE guilty pleas in her case. Tell me again, Glenn, why she shouldn't be doing her job for the people of Georgia. Hard to call it a witch hunt when people are admitting their guilt.
The dominos continue to fall.
"Some of those that work forces,
Are the same that burn crosses"
gounion wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 3:52 pm
Well, we now KNOW there were crimes committed in Georgia, because we have three people that have admitted they were guilty of said crimes.
Glenn, tell me why Georgia prosecutors should ignore crimes committed in their jurisdiction?
Oh look gutlessU the man who never answers a question is once again asking questions.
So tell me how are the people who live in that high crime area better off tonight after the county DA spent millions of dollars and 1000s of man hours prosecuting Trump.
Keeping in mind that the federal government is going after Trump for crimes related to the election.
The Georgia prosecution of Trump if you look at the big picture was nothing more than a county prosecutor making a name for herself and probably getting rich from it.
Nobody in her county is safer tonight because she is prosecuting Trump.
Glennfs wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:56 pm
Oh look gutlessU the man who never answers a question is once again asking questions.
So tell me how are the people who live in that high crime area better off tonight after the county DA spent millions of dollars and 1000s of man hours prosecuting Trump.
Keeping in mind that the federal government is going after Trump for crimes related to the election.
The Georgia prosecution of Trump if you look at the big picture was nothing more than a county prosecutor making a name for herself and probably getting rich from it.
Nobody in her county is safer tonight because she is prosecuting Trump.
Yes, Glenn, they are. If it keeps Donald Trump from regaining the Presidency, EVERYONE in our nation is safer.
And crime is going down in the Atlanta area. You pretend that prosecutors can only go after one crime at a time.
As always, you come to the rescue of your Dear Leader.
Claiming crime is high in GA and therefore instead of going after Trump, blah blah blah, is a STRAIGHT UP BS TALKING POINT THAT COMES DIRECTLY FROM TRUMP. Funny how the idiot claims he’s not a Trumper but constantly repeats EVERYTHING Trump says. Always defending and repeating his hero.
"Some of those that work forces,
Are the same that burn crosses"
Drak wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:11 am
Claiming crime is high in GA and therefore instead of going after Trump, blah blah blah, is a STRAIGHT UP BS TALKING POINT THAT COMES DIRECTLY FROM TRUMP. Funny how the idiot claims he’s not a Trumper but constantly repeats EVERYTHING Trump says. Always defending and repeating his hero.
Exactly. He parrots everything Trump tells him to say. Then he pretends Trump isn't being a racist in his attacks.
And that's what the attack on Fani Willis is - racist. It's the old "uppity black woman trying to get rich and famous by going after poor old Donald".
gounion wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:20 am
Exactly. He parrots everything Trump tells him to say. Then he pretends Trump isn't being a racist in his attacks.
And that's what the attack on Fani Willis is - racist. It's the old "uppity black woman trying to get rich and famous by going after poor old Donald".
gounion wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 11:01 am
Just pointing out your Dear Leader’s talking points are racist. We both agree he’s a racist, so why do you repeat what he says?
I have no idea what he says or when he says it. I don't listen to rw stations.
gounion wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 7:56 am
Yes, Glenn, they are. If it keeps Donald Trump from regaining the Presidency, EVERYONE in our nation is safer.
And crime is going down in the Atlanta area. You pretend that prosecutors can only go after one crime at a time.
As always, you come to the rescue of your Dear Leader.
Thank You for that admission. Without realizing it [because you aren't nearly as bright as you think you are] you just admitted that the Georgia prosecutor and prosecution is politically motivated.
Glennfs wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 6:57 pm
Thank You for that admission. Without realizing it [because you aren't nearly as bright as you think you are] you just admitted that the Georgia prosecutor and prosecution is politically motivated.
No, it’s motivated because of crimes committed in Georgia. ADMITTED crimes.
And you want to shut them down because they are all about Dear Leader.
The justice system doesn’t just make up serious crimes to try and put people away for political reasons. America isn’t a banana republic. Not yet, anyway. The fact that two huge players flipped and got sweet deals means Trump has probably committed serious crimes. You cannot defraud the people of the United States out of a free and fair election to remain in power. Claiming these indictments are political is stating the justice system is making it all up, which is completely and utterly batshit crazy and in the realm of loony tune QAnon territory. What a fucking moron Glennfs is. It’s just astonishing.
"Some of those that work forces,
Are the same that burn crosses"
