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Via WaPo:
The House is poised to vote this week on legislation that would enshrine marriage equality and access to contraception into federal law, as Democrats try to preemptively protect other rights that could be at risk after the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, which for nearly 50 years had guaranteed the right to an abortion in the United States.

The House is scheduled to vote Tuesday on the Respect for Marriage Act, which would require that someone be considered married in any state as long as the marriage was valid in the state where it was performed. The bill would also repeal the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act, which defined marriage as the union of one man and one woman and allowed states to not recognize same-sex marriages performed in other states. That law has remained on the books despite being declared unconstitutional by the Obergefell v. Hodges ruling.

On Wednesday, the House is scheduled to vote on the Right to Contraception Act, which would “protect a person’s ability to access contraceptives and to engage in contraception, and to protect a health care provider’s ability to provide contraceptives, contraception, and information related to contraception.”
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The two bills — and Democrats’ urgency in moving them — are the direct result of the Supreme Court’s decision to overturn Roe v. Wade last month. In his concurrence with that decision, Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas wrote that the high court should also examine previous rulings that legalized the right for married couples to buy and use contraception without government restriction (Griswold v. Connecticut), same-sex relationships (Lawrence v. Texas) and marriage equality (Obergefell v. Hodges).

“In future cases, we should reconsider all of this Court’s substantive due process precedents, including Griswold, Lawrence, and Obergefell,” Thomas wrote. “Because any substantive due process decision is ‘demonstrably erroneous’ … we have a duty to ‘correct the error’ established in those precedents.”

“After overruling these demonstrably erroneous decisions, the question would remain whether other constitutional provisions guarantee the myriad rights that our substantive due process cases have generated,” he added.
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Rep. Kathy E. Manning (D-N.C.), who introduced the contraception bill last week, called Thomas’s concurring opinion “alarming” and “a rallying call to escalate attacks on access to contraceptives.”

“I will not stand idly by and watch extreme politicians obstruct women’s private health care choices and diminish reproductive freedom,” Manning said then.
Now, Glenn has chided us for not codifying Roe v. Wade into law, when we had lots of chances. Well, no, we never did, because the GOP would always filibuster such a bill.

But he also says that oh, no, the GOP has NO intentions of overturning other decisions, such as gay marriage or access to contraception, even though Clarence Thomas's concurrence says EXACTLY THAT!

So, now they get their chance. Yesterday, the Respect for Marriage Act passed the House, 267-157. Zero Dems voted against the bill, and 47 Republicans voted for it. Of course, Glenn's Congressman, Ralph Norman, whom Glenn raves about, voted NO.

So over 3/4 of Republicans refused the rights of gays to marry. If it's up to the GOP, there won't be any gay marriage.

Now it goes to the Senate. Can they find 10 GOP votes so it can get a vote? They sure as hell need to bring it up for a vote so every Republican can lay out where they really stand.

And next, supposedly today, is a bill detailing the right to contraception. What do you want to bet there's a bunch of GOP Congress critters that vote NO?

We need to know before November where these bastards really stand. They can, like Glenn, assert all day long they're in favor of both, but I'd say when it comes time to vote, they'll go the other direction.
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gounion wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 1:26 pm Via WaPo:


Now, Glenn has chided us for not codifying Roe v. Wade into law, when we had lots of chances.
He was just parroting what he heard on the nooz.

He doesn't know j.s. about this subject.
Well, no, we never did, because the GOP would always filibuster such a bill.

But he also says that oh, no, the GOP has NO intentions of overturning other decisions, such as gay marriage or access to contraception, even though Clarence Thomas's concurrence says EXACTLY THAT!

So, now they get their chance. Yesterday, the Respect for Marriage Act passed the House, 267-157. Zero Dems voted against the bill, and 47 Republicans voted for it. Of course, Glenn's Congressman, Ralph Norman, whom Glenn raves about, voted NO.

So over 3/4 of Republicans refused the rights of gays to marry. If it's up to the GOP, there won't be any gay marriage.

Now it goes to the Senate. Can they find 10 GOP votes so it can get a vote? They sure as hell need to bring it up for a vote so every Republican can lay out where they really stand.

And next, supposedly today, is a bill detailing the right to contraception. What do you want to bet there's a bunch of GOP Congress critters that vote NO?

We need to know before November where these bastards really stand. They can, like Glenn, assert all day long they're in favor of both, but I'd say when it comes time to vote, they'll go the other direction.
Like I said in this post, the bill also includes interracial marriage recognition.

Rounding up today's You Don't Have To Be White To Be A Karen entry is homegirl from Orange County Michelle Park Steel, who is in an interracial marriage that would have been banned in this state.

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I mean, they are a pretty cute couple and everything, but my god how dumb and self-loathing do you have to be to be a not-white conservative in 2022? She voted against the Respect for Marriage bill, to own the libz and the f#gs, I guess. :problem:
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Doesn't look like we'll know what GOP Senators support the gay marriage bill unless they put it on the floor. A few support it, several - like Romney - won't say (they pretend it isn't needed, since the Supreme Court would NEVER overturn precedent). And most, like Lindsey Graham (who Glenn says he KNOWS is gay) is vehemently against it.

I say get'em on record. Because we know what the GOP would do if they had the power to do.
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gounion wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 5:30 am Doesn't look like we'll know what GOP Senators support the gay marriage bill unless they put it on the floor.
Gay and interracial marriage
A few support it, several - like Romney - won't say (they pretend it isn't needed, since the Supreme Court would NEVER overturn precedent). And most, like Lindsey Graham (who Glenn says he KNOWS is gay) is vehemently against it.

I say get'em on record. Because we know what the GOP would do if they had the power to do.
Yes, exactly. Back them into the corner and make them say the words, that they don’t support either gay marriage or interracial marriage.

Glennfs, who goes around repeating Heritage Foundation propaganda, is also very quick to pipe up with democrat party having been against gay marriage not so long ago. As if the whole country wasn’t, either, at the time. Same for “gays in the military.”

This hostile clown car passenger also wields the supremacism bat, and demands compliance from me, since he claims to be oh so pro-gay marriage, or whatever. I’m never uniting with people like that on anything, ever, unless aliens drop out of the sky and humanity in general has to fight them. And even in that case, conservative whites will put up everyone else first to save their own cowardly skins. So even that basic scenario is in doubt. :problem: :roll: viewtopic.php?p=27703#p27703

I hope he pulls this old act again, because this was how unhinged the Heritage Foundation’s position was in 2015, around the time of Obergefell.

Forcing States to Recognize Gay Marriage Could Increase Number of Abortions

https:// www.dailysignal .com/2015/04/17/forcing-states-to-recognize-gay-marriage -could-increase-number-of-abortions/#search-form

:? they actually still have this slippery-slope trash up on their trashy website, which tells us their present goals to overturn Obergefell and more. No, I’m not sending any hits to it.
Accordingly, with 1.275 million additional women never getting married, nearly 900,000 more children of the next generation would be aborted as a result of their mothers never marrying. This is equal to the entire population of the cities of Sacramento and Atlanta combined.
Rub Glennfs’s nose in this every time he tries to claim support for gay marriage, or demands silence of anyone who criticizes current conservative anti-queer/anti-trans policies and rulings. Cons are all cut from the same cloth, whatever grandstanding a few of them around here try to do.
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So, the bill codifying rights of Americans to purchase contraception passed the House:
The House on Thursday passed legislation that would protect access to birth control, the latest move in a broader effort by Democrats to enshrine into federal law rights they fear could come under threat by the Supreme Court following its decision to wipe away the constitutional right to an abortion.

The vote was 228-195, with eight Republicans joining every Democrat in voting in favor. All 195 "no" votes came from Republicans.

The Republican members who voted for it were Reps. Liz Cheney of Wyoming, John Katko of New York, Adam Kinzinger of Illinois, Nancy Mace of South Carolina, Fred Upton of Michigan, Brian Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania, Maria Salazar of Florida and Anthony Gonzalez of Ohio.
Well, that's a BIG message - that the right to contraception is in BIG trouble under GOP rule. First, the Supreme Court wants to overturn Griswold v Connecticut, and Republicans are in favor of laws denying Americans the right to have contraception.

I rest my case.
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carmenjonze wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:50 am Gay and interracial marriage



Yes, exactly. Back them into the corner and make them say the words, that they don’t support either gay marriage or interracial marriage.

Glennfs, who goes around repeating Heritage Foundation propaganda, is also very quick to pipe up with democrat party having been against gay marriage not so long ago. As if the whole country wasn’t, either, at the time. Same for “gays in the military.”

This hostile clown car passenger also wields the supremacism bat, and demands compliance from me, since he claims to be oh so pro-gay marriage, or whatever. I’m never uniting with people like that on anything, ever, unless aliens drop out of the sky and humanity in general has to fight them. And even in that case, conservative whites will put up everyone else first to save their own cowardly skins. So even that basic scenario is in doubt. :problem: :roll: viewtopic.php?p=27703#p27703

I hope he pulls this old act again, because this was how unhinged the Heritage Foundation’s position was in 2015, around the time of Obergefell.

Forcing States to Recognize Gay Marriage Could Increase Number of Abortions

https:// www.dailysignal .com/2015/04/17/forcing-states-to-recognize-gay-marriage -could-increase-number-of-abortions/#search-form

:? they actually still have this slippery-slope trash up on their trashy website, which tells us their present goals to overturn Obergefell and more. No, I’m not sending any hits to it.



Rub Glennfs’s nose in this every time he tries to claim support for gay marriage, or demands silence of anyone who criticizes current conservative anti-queer/anti-trans policies and rulings. Cons are all cut from the same cloth, whatever grandstanding a few of them around here try to do.
I suppose every vote your rep makes you agree with 100pct.
Fact is my rep is doing a great job for our district.
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Glennfs wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 6:11 pm I suppose every vote your rep makes you agree with 100pct.
Fact is my rep is doing a great job for our district.
Fact is your rep is a bigoted Trumper. Maybe THAT’S why your support him.
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Glennfs wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 6:11 pm I suppose every vote your rep makes you agree with 100pct.
Fact is my rep is doing a great job for our district.
Your rep is a miseducated conservative white homophobe and misogynist, just like you, and just like you, he votes accordingly.

Lmao, look at this filthy bigot.

Republican asks for a moment of silence for Rush Limbaugh during LGBTQ Equality Act debate - LGBTQ Nation
Over a week after Rush Limbaugh died, Rep. Ralph Norman wanted the House to take a moment of silence for the notorious homophobe during the historic LGBTQ debate.
One of your senators, Lindsey Graham, is one of the most corrupt people in Congress, and also has one of the longest and most anti-LGBTQ records of anyone in Congress. Both represent men like you very well, which is what they're there for, and why you are dumb enough to publicly admire them.

Your entire party platform on anything LGBTQ-related is literally atrocious, which is also a part of why you're in that party.
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Glennfs wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 6:11 pm
Hey, why don't you go make some t-shirts and cups against Kamala.

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They want Biden out of the way so a repub can get in there and take away ALL regulations protecting their air and water and life itself.

They want Biden out of the way so they can own people, again.

Make no mistake, every con on this board thinks they are superior to POC and Jewish people and Muslims, etal.
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gounion wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 2:58 pm So, the bill codifying rights of Americans to purchase contraception passed the House:



Well, that's a BIG message - that the right to contraception is in BIG trouble under GOP rule. First, the Supreme Court wants to overturn Griswold v Connecticut, and Republicans are in favor of laws denying Americans the right to have contraception.

I rest my case.
That stupid, radicalized whackjob Ralph Norman voted against this, too.

Glenn cannot name even one vote from this dumb wingnut that he disagrees with

But ohhh he is so certain to repeat the braindead rhetoric that he’d doing well for the district, or whatever.
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carmenjonze wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:50 pm That stupid, radicalized whackjob Ralph Norman voted against this, too.

Glenn cannot name even one vote from this dumb wingnut that he disagrees with

But ohhh he is so certain to repeat the braindead rhetoric that he’d doing well for the district, or whatever.
As horrible as Trump is and as horrible as the reality that these cons do support him no matter what they say, the future even without Trump is a nightmare because of these right wingers here on this board.
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Libertas wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:57 pm As horrible as Trump is and as horrible as the reality that these cons do support him no matter what they say, the future even without Trump is a nightmare because of these right wingers here on this board.
These conservative men around here and their sh#tty laws are the reason why every civil rights movement, every LGBTQ rights movement, every labor rights movement, every veteran's rights movement, every disability rights movement, were ever needed. And why they are still needed, today.

Oh, and why they're pro-cop, to kill off anyone who even looks like they're going to protest.

Only protests they like are the KKK, Proud Boys, Charlottesville, and insurrection/coup attempts like Jan. 6th.
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Glennfs wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 6:11 pm Fact is my rep is doing a great job for our district.
No doubt you think so.

Report: Some House Republicans Want Steve King to Get Back Committee Spots He Lost for White Supremacy Comments - Slate
According to Politico, hard-line conservatives led by Rep. Ralph Norman are working to put forward a draft petition that would force their party to consider reinstating King, who was in January taken off the House Judiciary Committee and the House Agriculture Committee. The group needs the signatures of 25 lawmakers to raise the cause with the Republican Steering Committee, and according to Politico, it is unlikely to get them.

The list of his past offensive comments and actions is long, and it includes joking about people in more conservative states killing those in more liberal states in a civil war; calling white people the “subgroup of people” who have contributed the most to the world; tweeting that “we can’t restore our civilization with somebody else’s babies;” blaming immigrants for ISIS and Ebola; and blaming abortion for killing “millions” of white babies.

He finally appeared to have crossed a line in January, when he explicitly defended white supremacy and white nationalism in an interview with the New York Times. “White nationalist, white supremacist, Western civilization—how did that language become offensive?” King said. “Why did I sit in classes teaching me about the merits of our history and our civilization?”
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Glennfs wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 6:11 pm Fact is my rep is doing a great job for our district.
Uh-huh.

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Alabama Rep. Mike Rogers
Arizona Rep. Andy Biggs
Arizona Rep. Paul Gosar
California Rep. Tom McClintock
California Rep Doug LaMalfa
Georgia Rep. Andrew Clyde
Kentucky Rep. Thomas Massie
Montana Rep. Matt Rosendale
South Carolina Rep. Ralph Norman
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Glennfs wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 6:11 pm Fact is my rep is doing a great job for our district.
Is he, tho?

16 House Republicans vote against bill to promote education on internment camps - The Hill
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Glennfs wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 6:11 pm Fact is my rep is doing a great job for our district.

You sure about that? Where were you radicalized.

SC’s role in Jan. 6 Capitol riot comes into clearer focus 1 year later - Post & Courier

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In this image from video, Rep. Ralph Norman, R-S.C., speaks as the House debates the objection to confirm the Electoral College vote from Pennsylvania, at the U.S. Capitol early Jan. 7, 2021. File/House Television via AP

^look how this idiot wears a mask, even after getting his confederate ass fined over masking. :problem:
A week after Election Day, four Republicans from the Palmetto State’s congressional delegation — Ralph Norman, Jeff Duncan, Tom Rice and Joe Wilson — and newly elected Congresswoman Nancy Mace held a press conference praising Trump’s refusal to concede.
This clown just voted against interracial marriage, yet you think this is "doing a great job."

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Glennfs wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 6:11 pm I suppose every vote your rep makes you agree with 100pct.
Name even one vote of this dumb fascist's that you disagree with.

Or Graham's, for that matter.

I'll wait.
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Ark. pharmacist arrested after ‘violent episode’ at Walmart
Chaos at the Helena-West Helena Arkansas Walmart lands a pharmacist in jail.

The Walmart Supercenter in West Helena Arkansas is almost always bustling with folks buying essentials or having prescriptions filled.

Thursday, however, one customer got an unexpected and frightening response from a longtime, well-known pharmacist when she came to pick up her infant daughter’s medicine.

The woman did not want to talk about the incident, but her mother does.

“She has just given the name of her daughter, to pick up the prescription, and his words were ‘You’re a demon’ and that ‘I’m going to ‘f***ing kill you,'” said Laura Wheeler.
Assuming this is a religious whackjob wanting to deprive Women of rights, but I am not sure. Just in case it is, this thread is appropriate.
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https://twitter.com/MollyJongFast/statu ... 1sCzWEFJJA

scumbag gaetz

Just saying what you cons are thinking.

And no, when Carlin said it in a somewhat nicer way, it wasnt good then either.
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