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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 2:10 pm 
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Wage inequality continued its 35-year rise in 2015
(continuation of the Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama, Hillary policies. wake up Corporate Dem Hillary supporters only Sanders is against this Corporate Corruption! all the Corporate Media reports is cutting workers pay/benefits to fix problems without any mention/action on cutting obscene elitist CEO/top executive pay/benefits which continue to rise for 35 years.)
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Over the last three-and-a-half decades, rising inequality has been a defining feature of the American economy. The way rising inequality has directly affected most Americans is through sluggish hourly wage growth in recent decades, despite an expanding and increasingly productive economy. For example, had all workers’ wages risen in line with productivity, as they did in the three decades following World War II, an American earning around $50,000 today would instead be making close to $75,000. A hugely disproportionate share of economic gains from rising productivity is going to the top 1 percent and to corporate profits, instead of to ordinary workers—who are more productive and educated than ever. This rising inequality is largely the result of big corporations and the wealthy rewriting the rules of the economy to stack the deck in their favor. This has prevented the benefits of productivity growth from “trickling down” to reach most households.

Unfortunately, although inflation-adjusted wages grew across the board in 2015 (due to a sharp dip in inflation), the trend of rising wage inequality continued unabated last year. This paper begins by detailing the most up-to-date hourly wage trends through 2015 and then examines the continued growth in inequality that began in the late 1970s. This rising inequality is confirmed by the latest wage data, analyzed across the wage distribution and education categories, including striking differences by race and gender.

Key findings include:..... please go to site for factual data
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This is not the legacy Obama wants to be remembered for.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 7:33 pm 
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This is not the legacy Obama wants to be remembered for.

Well why did he appoint Wall Street stooges to positions of power over the economy then? Why did he appoint Wall Street lawyers to oversee the Judicial system? Why did he appoint a private for profit charter school advocate to be in charge of the Department of Education?

Obama has always been a centrist corporate blue dog Democrat. People just saw in him what they wanted to see because he was all hopey and changey in his speeches. Some of us looked at his policies before he was elected and said "Wait a minute..."

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Well why did he appoint Wall Street stooges to positions of power over the economy then? Why did he appoint Wall Street lawyers to oversee the Judicial system? Why did he appoint a private for profit charter school advocate to be in charge of the Department of Education?

Obama has always been a centrist corporate blue dog Democrat. People just saw in him what they wanted to see because he was all hopey and changey in his speeches. Some of us looked at his policies before he was elected and said "Wait a minute..."


And some of us knew what we were getting back then, like how we know what we will be getting with Hillary, if Bernie loses.

I have never doubted what the great George said


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A 35 (+) year rise means, of course, not even the Democratic president usually considered the most liberal and favorable of the last few decades -- President Carter (*) -- did anything to stop it either, in 1977. (Though blamed on Reagan in the 80s, we actually see the start of the growing inequality/stagnant wages trend in the 70s.)

We need to be real about one thing -- presidents, whoever they are, whatever they believe, have less control over what are ultimately the deepest structural economic forces in our society, then we want to believe. This is why I often caution on over believing what any presidential candidate promises they can do -- especially if they face deep Congressional opposition.

(*) Of course, Ted Kennedy did challenge him from his left, too. And he was a one termer, but liberals look back on him with fondness.

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Bears repeating

And some of us knew what we were getting back then, like how we know what we will be getting with Hillary, if Bernie loses.


People who live in a parliamentary system truly don't get this, I don't think.

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People who live in a parliamentary system truly don't get this, I don't think.


Hillary was working for Goldwater who wanted to put negreos back on plantations as slaves!
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Hillary was working for Goldwater who wanted to put negreos back on plantations as slaves!
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Bernie voted for the 94 crime bill, and I'm voting for him.

Knock off the race pandering, Fresh Water.

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Ummm, look, Barry Goldwater did oppose the Civil Rights Act, 'tis true, but that statement is not exactly correct.

And yes, while Hillary was a Goldwater girl as a freshman at Wellesley, by her junior year (1968), she was supporting not just the Democrats, but the antiwar campaign of Eugene McCarthy.

Bear in mind Elizabeth Warren was a registered Republican until 1995.

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Ummm, look, Barry Goldwater did oppose the Civil Rights Act, 'tis true, but that statement is not exactly correct.

And yes, while Hillary was a Goldwater girl as a freshman at Wellesley, by her junior year (1968), she was supporting not just the Democrats, but the antiwar campaign of Eugene McCarthy.

Bear in mind Elizabeth Warren was a registered Republican until 1995.


This Goldwater Girl/superpredator pandering is the equivalent of "blacks are on the democrat plantation".

The Bernie Fundamentalists should ask themselves how well that strategy has ever worked for conservatives in gaining Black voters.

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This Goldwater Girl/superpredator pandering is the equivalent of "blacks are on the democrat plantation".

The Bernie Fundamentalists should ask themselves how well that strategy has ever worked for conservatives in gaining Black voters.

Seriously, have even a little faith that folks are able to make good decisions on their own behalf.


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Seriously, have even a little faith that folks are able to make good decisions on their own behalf.


We are just hashmarks, symbols, and children in need of guidance, to them.

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Bernie voted for the 94 crime bill, and I'm voting for him.

Knock off the race pandering, Fresh Water.

I heard today from my lawyer friend that if it is Clinton, he may actually go to the polls to vote FOR Trump.

I told him dont bother calling me ever again if he does.

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I heard today from my lawyer friend that if it is Clinton, he may actually go to the polls to vote FOR Trump.

I told him dont bother calling me ever again if he does.


Some people can afford to vote on emotion instead of policies, I guess. A lot like what J_Dogg said in the other thread.

For some of us, the vote is not a joke or a game.

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So...
Here we get the usual Clinton apologists, I am sorry to say.

And people often bring up the fact that the president and the government can't do things by themselves. Wow, the nonsense is tiresome, because elections do have consequences, despite the facts that there is a lot of problems to deal with.

Of course one person alone will not change everything, but you can only vote for one person at a time.

And so...therefore...forget that you won't win everything with a single stroke, don't accept the status quo and get out and vote to change things.

We "little people" have had our hopes let down too many times to be led around by campaign promises. And sorry to say Hillary hasn't run a very good campaign. She has been having problems remember the truth.
http://www.democracynow.org/2016/3/14/headlines/clinton_apologizes_for_praising_for_reagans_hiv_aids_advocacy

"Clinton Apologizes for Praising Reagans' HIV/AIDS "Advocacy""

"Clinton Asks Where Sanders was During 1990s Health Reform; Video Shows Him Right Behind Her"

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And sorry to say Hillary hasn't run a very good campaign.


I agree. Also true in 2008. Do I lose my apologist status yet? ;)

I think she's nowhere near as good at campaigning as Bill, and that has hurt her all along.

I happen to believe it's far more important who we elect to Congress than to president - though I know that's the top brass ring and shiny object that dangles until more attention gets paid to the Congressional races this summer - have always believed that, will continue to say that, and it has nothing to do with who's running in the Democratic primary.

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So...
Here we get the usual Clinton apologists, I am sorry to say.

And people often bring up the fact that the president and the government can't do things by themselves. Wow, the nonsense is tiresome, because elections do have consequences, despite the facts that there is a lot of problems to deal with.

Of course one person alone will not change everything, but you can only vote for one person at a time.

And so...therefore...forget that you won't win everything with a single stroke, don't accept the status quo and get out and vote to change things.

We "little people" have had our hopes let down too many times to be led around by campaign promises. And sorry to say Hillary hasn't run a very good campaign. She has been having problems remember the truth.
http://www.democracynow.org/2016/3/14/headlines/clinton_apologizes_for_praising_for_reagans_hiv_aids_advocacy

"Clinton Apologizes for Praising Reagans' HIV/AIDS "Advocacy""

"Clinton Asks Where Sanders was During 1990s Health Reform; Video Shows Him Right Behind Her"


Most of us here are voting for Bernie, so not sure what you are on about.

Are you suggesting we not vote for Hillary if she beats Bernie? I am asking because I sincerely dont know you well enough to know.

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Ummm, look, Barry Goldwater did oppose the Civil Rights Act, 'tis true, but that statement is not exactly correct.

And yes, while Hillary was a Goldwater girl as a freshman at Wellesley, by her junior year (1968), she was supporting not just the Democrats, but the antiwar campaign of Eugene McCarthy.

Bear in mind Elizabeth Warren was a registered Republican until 1995.

Yes, the Warren thing somehow doesnt matter, but Hillary cant do anything right.

I mentioned earlier that the truth is coming out on that other board, dozens maybe hundreds Bernie supporters saying they will not, under any circumstances, vote for Hillary

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I think she's nowhere near as good at campaigning as Bill, and that has hurt her all along.

Come on, man, not many folks can compete with Bill, one of the smoothest operators to ever grace the political scene in America.


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Again, this is an argument I refuse to address until it matters.

We recently had our favorite gadfly playing some Paul Street for us.

Well, heck, Bernie is ALREADY not good enough for Street, and he's ALREADY telling people to support Jill Stein or somebody else.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/07/21/ ... democrats/

Not only is Hillary not good enough for them, Bernie isn't either.

You know what? Sorry to get blunt, but FUCK THEM.

Purity politics sucks ass, motherfuckers.

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So...
Here we get the usual Clinton apologists, I am sorry to say.


I am voting for Bernie. Pay attention.

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Yes, the Warren thing somehow doesnt matter, but Hillary cant do anything right.

I mentioned earlier that the truth is coming out on that other board, dozens maybe hundreds Bernie supporters saying they will not, under any circumstances, vote for Hillary


Everywhere you turn...fundamentalists...

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That's not good enough, as you know, unless you denounce Hillary with the required fervor.

It's not sufficient to prefer a candidate; you have to have hate for the alternative.

BTW, I also voted for him, although of course, as I've been saying, you have no way of verifying it. Maybe even if you knew who I was, as we have the secret ballot in this country. (*)

(*) I also was at a Bernie rally on last Wednesday at MDCC, and in that case, I have pictures to prove it.

I looked for Nicole Sandler who was already there, but I think she was already inside the debate when I got there.

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I also was at a Bernie rally on last Wednesday at MDCC, and in that case, I have pictures to prove it.

I don't need to see the photos. Your word is good enough for me.


Though, I still would really like to see those photos of the trip with your dad to the Mediterranean some years back.


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Most of us here are voting for Bernie, so not sure what you are on about.

Are you suggesting we not vote for Hillary if she beats Bernie? I am asking because I sincerely dont know you well enough to know.

That may be true. But there are some that are not that interested in the differences in political positions or don't think that they are important.

Though one doesn't get their choice on the ballot, it is important to vote for the best candidate in November. I say make your vote count if you want to make a difference.

If Bernie, Hillary, or Trump is lying or misleading voters, you had better find out now, and tell them it's unacceptable. That of course means sticking up for principles. People sometimes forget those things you are taught in Sunday School and go with the Street justice rule.

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