Toonces wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 2:10 pm
This part is what has caused me concern for a few days. Israel ignored the warnings it got from Egypt. We don't know why. We may never know why. However, it cannot be ignored that they were intentionally ignored in order to create chaos, far right's trade. In so doing, with the evacuation order, makes one wonder if they saw it as an opportunity to annex even more land with the blessing of Western governments. Now, I'd suspect that if this were the case then only a few would be onboard. The majority of Israelis would not support it, nor would I suspect a large part of the government. Netanyahu, of course, hasn't been shy of usurping more and more of power or resources. This would add a new level of evilness to the whole thing if true, and I hope I am wrong.
His present government includes far-right parties that openly advocate the annexation of all or part of the West Bank to Israel and the continued governance of the Palestinians without full rights or the vote. Israeli and foreign human rights groups say Israel has increasingly carved out a form of apartheid in the occupied territories.
On one hand....
https://www.timesofisrael.com/egypt-int ... 20apparent
Egypt intelligence official says Israel ignored repeated warnings of ‘something big’
Mounting questions over Israel’s massive intelligence failure to anticipate and prepare for a surprise Hamas assault were compounded Monday when an Egyptian intelligence official said that Jerusalem had ignored repeated warnings that the Gaza-based terror group was planning “something big” — which included an apparent direct notice from Cairo’s intelligence minister to the prime minister.
On the other...
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/202 ... ef2ed70000
'Utterly Fake': Israel's National Security Adviser Denies Receiving Egyptian Warning of Hamas Attackhttps://www.haaretz.com/israel-
i'm staying away from rumors like that for now.
Here's the rub.......
The Telegraph
Opinion
https://news.yahoo.com/no-peace-long-pa ... 00232.html
There can be no peace so long as Palestinians want to annihilate Israel
Abu Daoud, the man who planned the 1972 massacre of Israeli athletes at the Munich Olympics, remained unrepentant to his dying day. In an interview in 2006, he expressed pride in the act, calling it a “strategic success”, because “we were able to force our cause into the homes of 500 million people”.
And yet, decades after this “strategic success”, the Palestinian “cause”, despite continuing to enjoy global support and attention, seems to have gone nowhere. The reason is that the “cause” has never been the one so many Westerners created in their minds.
Almost always, when foreign commentators or diplomats seek to justify the latest Palestinian attack against Israel, they will use phrases that begin with “a people fighting for its freedom…”, or “given the years of occupation…”, or “in a desire to end the blockade…”, blithely assuming that those are the goals for which most Palestinians are fighting and which explain the most recent act of violence.
I empathise. It is understandable that the West wants to believe that many Palestinians engage in violence because they seek “freedom from occupation”, or are “angered by settlements”, or “want to improve conditions in Gaza”. Those are rational, limited, and understandable goals that Westerners can feel good about supporting. But they are projected goals, inventions of a Western mind.
The vaunted Palestinian “cause”, of which Abu Daoud spoke, and which Hamas has dutifully pursued, has never been about any of those goals. Its followers have made it clear, for more than a century, in words, actions, and strategic decisions, that their “cause” was always one: the prevention, and then the destruction of a Jewish state in any part of the territory between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea. Hence “Free Palestine” and “From the River to the Sea”.
Given that, then what? Unless there's a way around that........... it's unsolvable. Besides a way of deprogramming millions of people, i got nothing.
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