(D) South Dakota Decline

[Glennfs]

Dude I LIVED there. It could be in Virginia as easy as Maryland.

I have literally crossed the Woodrow Wilson Bridge over 1000 times.
Any person with half a brain knows the river is the natural boundary

[ProfX]

I'm for what DC residents say they want, and every time they have been polled, would they rather be part of Virginia or Maryland, or be their own state, the latter option is what they always choose.

[gounion]

I have literally crossed the Woodrow Wilson Bridge over 1000 times.
Any person with half a brain knows the river is the natural boundary

Have you ever looked at a map of Michigan?

[Bludogdem]

I'm for what DC residents say they want, and every time they have been polled, would they rather be part of Virginia or Maryland, or be their own state, the latter option is what they always choose.

You’re gonna need an amendment.

[gounion]

You’re gonna need an amendment.

You sure keep pretending you know something, doncha?

[Bludogdem]

You sure keep pretending you know something, doncha?

Easily a great deal more than you. Especially things constitutional.

I wasn’t dumb enough to believe congress legislated two term limits on the presidency, or that congress could lower Supreme Court justice pay to zero, or put the Supreme Court on a street corner. And that’s just a small sample.

[gounion]

Easily a great deal more than you. Especially things constitutional.

I wasn’t dumb enough to believe congress legislated two term limits on the presidency, or that congress could lower Supreme Court justice pay to zero, or put the Supreme Court on a street corner. And that’s just a small sample.

No, you don't know shit. You only know what Donald TELLS you to know. You believe everything he says. Which of your 50-some degrees told you to believe that demagogue?

You think that Meadows can get out of the trial in Georgia, because anything he does as a government employee makes him immune. I'm sure he's going to lose that case Monday.

And if you think being Chief of Staff makes you immune, look at H.R. Haldelman. Didn't work for him.

[ProfX]

You’re gonna need an amendment.

It's an opinion. Not a universally held one.

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/ ... -explained

Can Congress admit DC as a state?

Yes. The Constitution vests Congress with broad power to admit new states through legislation under Article IV, subject to two limitations: states may not be formed from existing states’ territory without their consent and jurisdictions seeking to join the Union as states must have a republican form of government. Congress has historically applied two additional criteria when considering whether to admit a new state. Petitions for statehood must reflect the desire of the people in that jurisdiction, and any new state must have the sufficient population and resources to support itself and contribute to the federal government.

Admitting the Douglass Commonwealth as the 51st state through ordinary legislation is not only permissible but also consistent with how the other 37 non-original states were admitted, from Vermont in 1791 to Hawaii in 1959. The contention that the Washington, DC Admission Act is somehow different, in process or political effect, is not true.

Furthermore, Congress’s exclusive authority over the district includes the power to revise its boundaries under Article I. In 1846, Congress exercised this power to modify the district’s original “ten miles square” boundary, returning land previously ceded by Virginia. Courts have also found that the Constitution’s District Clause contains ”sweeping and inclusive” language, permitting broad leeway for Congress to alter the federal district’s contours.

[snip][end]

https://dcstatehoodnow.org/constitutionality/

D.C. statehood is constitutional and granting D.C. statehood does not require any new constitutional amendments. Under the U.S. Constitution, Congress has the authority to admit new states, and every state that has been admitted to the Union after ratification of the Constitution in 1788 has been admitted by Congress.

[snip][end]

It'll go to the courts. I know your opinion and how you think they'll rule. CRS itself says it's uncertain.
https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R47101

At the moment, it's theoretical. HR 51 hasn't passed Congress, and I don't suspect it can in the near future.

[Glennfs]

Have you ever looked at a map of Michigan?

The yooper is an anomaly and a place where very few people live.
But yes that is exactly the same as making a city into a state.
Especially if it helps advance your glorious cause

[gounion]

The yooper is an anomaly and a place where very few people live.
But yes that is exactly the same as making a city into a state.
Especially if it helps advance your glorious cause

Go back and ask you Dear Leader what to do.

[Glennfs]

Go back and ask you Dear Leader what to do.

Typically response from a socialist. Way to stop the discussion when you know you are wrong. Trotsky would be proud of you comrade

[gounion]

Typically response from a socialist. Way to stop the discussion when you know you are wrong. Trotsky would be proud of you comrade

Glenn, you don’t KNOW how to have a discussion. All you know how to do is scream “Biden Crime Family!” - which you have already said you think is false.

So the fact is, you don’t mind lying to troll.

[Bludogdem]

No, you don't know shit. You only know what Donald TELLS you to know. You believe everything he says. Which of your 50-some degrees told you to believe that demagogue?

You think that Meadows can get out of the trial in Georgia, because anything he does as a government employee makes him immune. I'm sure he's going to lose that case Monday.

And if you think being Chief of Staff makes you immune, look at H.R. Haldelman. Didn't work for him.

Never said meadows was immune. Simply that the trial might end up in federal court.

You have great difficulty in understanding what people say. That primary distortion device that sits on your shoulders is a bit of a problem.

[Bludogdem]

It's an opinion. Not a universally held one.

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/ ... -explained

Can Congress admit DC as a state?

Yes. The Constitution vests Congress with broad power to admit new states through legislation under Article IV, subject to two limitations: states may not be formed from existing states’ territory without their consent and jurisdictions seeking to join the Union as states must have a republican form of government. Congress has historically applied two additional criteria when considering whether to admit a new state. Petitions for statehood must reflect the desire of the people in that jurisdiction, and any new state must have the sufficient population and resources to support itself and contribute to the federal government.

Admitting the Douglass Commonwealth as the 51st state through ordinary legislation is not only permissible but also consistent with how the other 37 non-original states were admitted, from Vermont in 1791 to Hawaii in 1959. The contention that the Washington, DC Admission Act is somehow different, in process or political effect, is not true.

Furthermore, Congress’s exclusive authority over the district includes the power to revise its boundaries under Article I. In 1846, Congress exercised this power to modify the district’s original “ten miles square” boundary, returning land previously ceded by Virginia. Courts have also found that the Constitution’s District Clause contains ”sweeping and inclusive” language, permitting broad leeway for Congress to alter the federal district’s contours.

[snip][end]

https://dcstatehoodnow.org/constitutionality/

D.C. statehood is constitutional and granting D.C. statehood does not require any new constitutional amendments. Under the U.S. Constitution, Congress has the authority to admit new states, and every state that has been admitted to the Union after ratification of the Constitution in 1788 has been admitted by Congress.

[snip][end]

It'll go to the courts. I know your opinion and how you think they'll rule. CRS itself says it's uncertain.
https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R47101

At the moment, it's theoretical. HR 51 hasn't passed Congress, and I don't suspect it can in the near future.

It’ll need an amendment.

[gounion]

It’ll need an amendment.

Sez our sock with fifty or so degrees.

[ProfX]

Thus Spake Zarathustra, I suppose.

At least I gave sources for my position. (I do know the Heritage Foundation doesn't support it.)

[gounion]

Thus Spake Zarathustra, I suppose.

More like Thus Spake Cornholio.

[Bludogdem]

Thus Spake Zarathustra, I suppose.

At least I gave sources for my position. (I do know the Heritage Foundation doesn't support it.)

My source is the Constitution.

[ProfX]

Cool. I am glad you consider yourself the final authority on its interpretation. Bully for you.

[gounion]

My source is the Constitution.

Thank you Cornholio.