Trump and Friends Indicted in GA

[JoeMemphis]

It's obvious you got nothing. But go ahead and defend Donald Trump, your Dear Leader. You can't see where he did ANYTHING wrong!

You are the guy talking about punting. That usually happens when you can’t advance the ball. Your problem. Not mine.

[gounion]

You are the guy talking about punting. That usually happens when you can’t advance the ball. Your problem. Not mine.

Dumbass, I was talking that it's time for YOU to punt. But you won't, you'll just keep spewing Dear Leader's talking points.

You are so fucking sure that Joe Biden is corrupt, but you have no idea if Trump did anything wrong.

You STILL won't answer the question - did Joe Biden win the 2020 election fair and square? You gutless wonder.

[gounion]

Joe can't answer the question - Did Joe Biden win the 2020 election fair and square? Of course he can't. Neither can the GOP: https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/2 ... n-00123714

Rep. Mike Johnson (R-La.) was hours away from winning the speakership when a reporter asked him about the instrumental role he played in the effort to deny certifying the 2020 presidential election on Jan. 6.

Next question, he responded.

Whether the Republican Party can ever reconcile its divergent response to Jan. 6 is not the next question. It’s the question defining this turbulent political moment in Washington and beyond — roiling and coursing just below the surface. These days, all roads lead back to the original lie that Donald Trump won.

Consider that deposed House Speaker Kevin McCarthy ascended to the speakership thanks to his quick work to repair his relationship with Trump after calling his behavior on Jan. 6 “atrocious and totally wrong.” There was no such luck for Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), whose rise to the gavel encountered the opposition of, among others, Rep. Ken Buck (R-Colo.), who said he wouldn’t vote for an election denier.

Rep. Tom Emmer (R-Minn.) lasted approximately four hours as the party’s third nominee — his effort sunk, in large part, because Trump attacked him over his vote to certify the election results on Jan. 6. Johnson, by contrast, would prove an acceptable speaker in Trump’s estimation, having been the chief architect of an effort to overturn 2020 election results in four swing states.

Eventually, even Buck would make the strained distinction that Johnson’s actions were different, because Jordan took his challenge to the floor but Johnson kept his reservation for the courts.

At virtually the same time as all this was happening, ABC reported that Trump’s ex-chief of staff Mark Meadows — granted immunity by special counsel Jack Smith as he investigates the former president’s effort to overturn the election — had told federal investigators Trump had been “dishonest” with the public after polls closed on Nov. 3, 2020. Meadows himself had also told Trump allegations of widespread voter fraud were baseless, according to the report.

The week’s splitscreen cast into stark relief just how much the Republican Party remains riven over whether to believe the lie that Trump won, a perhaps unbridgeable divide. Only on rare occasions, though, does the divide come to light: in the heat of a speakers’ race, for example, or grand jury testimony with immunity in one’s back pocket, or in a presidential debate. Except for moments like those, the party and its members are mostly keen to keep the divisions hidden. Some things, after all, are just better left unsaid. Or easier.

But until the party reckons with them, it can’t truly move forward, said Fergus Cullen, the former chair of the New Hampshire Republican Party.

“Can we Republicans agree on three things, please? One: the 2020 election was not stolen,” Cullen said. “Two: What happened on January 6 was a bad thing. Three: We shouldn’t be nominating somebody facing 91 criminal indictments.”

But after three weeks mired in a speaker stalemate, and fewer than 90 days before the Iowa caucuses, and four months ahead of Trump’s trial in federal court on charges he allegedly tried to steal the 2020 election, this combustible mix of issues is about to become front and center.

[JoeMemphis]

Dumbass, I was talking that it's time for YOU to punt. But you won't, you'll just keep spewing Dear Leader's talking points.

You are so fucking sure that Joe Biden is corrupt, but you have no idea if Trump did anything wrong.

You STILL won't answer the question - did Joe Biden win the 2020 election fair and square? You gutless wonder.

Hard to tell what you are talking about.

I’ve answered that question prior to Jan 6 and many many times thereafter. My answer hasn’t changed. Look it up.

[gounion]

Hard to tell what you are talking about.

You should have payed better attention in English class, college boy.

I’ve answered that question prior to Jan 6 and many many times thereafter. My answer hasn’t changed. Look it up.

Then you have no problem answering it now. But you’re SCARED, Joe. You won’t answer it.

[JoeMemphis]

You should have payed better attention in English class, college boy.

Then you have no problem answering it now. But you’re SCARED, Joe. You won’t answer it.

I said several times that once the states certified the elections that Trump should have conceded. That was before Jan 6. Think you can remember that?

[Glennfs]

You should have payed better attention in English class, college boy.

Then you have no problem answering it now. But you’re SCARED, Joe. You won’t answer it.

Like you are scared to criticize the elected democrats who are supporting Hamas.

[gounion]

I said several times that once the states certified the elections that Trump should have conceded. That was before Jan 6. Think you can remember that?

So did Joe Biden win the election fair and square? Yes or no?

[Glennfs]

So did Joe Biden win the election fair and square? Yes or no?

So you going to comment on elected democrats making outrageous anti American claims?

Yes or No

[gounion]

So you going to comment on elected democrats making outrageous anti American claims?

Yes or No

When you make a comment denouncing Trump’s cheering of terrorists. Go ahead.

[Glennfs]

When you make a comment denouncing Trump’s cheering of terrorists. Go ahead.

So the answer is you don't have the balls to criticize elected democrats who back Hamas

[Toonces]

So the answer is you don't have the balls to criticize elected democrats who back Hamas

Outside of the fact that there is no elected Democrat who backs Hamas?

We're back to the nuance thing, but I'm told that's for children. Somehow.

It's an offshoot of object permanence. If I can't see it, it doesn't exist.

[gounion]

Outside of the fact that there is no elected Democrat who backs Hamas?

We're back to the nuance thing, but I'm told that's for children. Somehow.

It's an offshoot of object permanence. If I can't see it, it doesn't exist.

Yeah, no one is backing Hamas. Glenn's lying.

[Glennfs]

Yeah, no one is backing Hamas. Glenn's lying.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-ne ... 08790.html

Here is one and there are others. But, you keep right on defending and backing them.

Because you are gutless

[Glennfs]

Outside of the fact that there is no elected Democrat who backs Hamas?

We're back to the nuance thing, but I'm told that's for children. Somehow.

It's an offshoot of object permanence. If I can't see it, it doesn't exist.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-ne ... 08790.html

Here is one and there are others.

[Toonces]

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-ne ... 08790.html

Here is one and there are others.

Is it a fundamental misunderstanding of what constitutes support? If you'd like, I can help you with that.

[Glennfs]

Is it a fundamental misunderstanding of what constitutes support? If you'd like, I can help you with that.

Saying that president Biden is supporting genocide is supporting Hamas

[Toonces]

Saying that president Biden is supporting genocide is supporting Hamas

Ah, so it's "nuance" you're having trouble with, the concept that things in life aren't binary.

So, it's more like "If you don't support the indiscriminate killing of civilians, you're a terrorist"

I guess if that's how you want to frame things, you have that right. It is a weird, and somewhat ironic, position to take, though. I'm the opposite though. I believe that they SHOULDN'T be killing children.

[JoeMemphis]

So did Joe Biden win the election fair and square? Yes or no?

Well I said Trump should have conceded. What do you think the consequences of that act means? Do you think Hillary believed Trump won fair and square when she conceded? Do you think the folks who challenged the Trump vote in the Senate thought he won fair and square.

Biden won the election under the laws of the United States of America. I can say that with certainty. I can accept that with certainty. He is the President. Those are the rules. That’s the law.

[Glennfs]

Well I said Trump should have conceded. What do you think the consequences of that act means? Do you think Hillary believed Trump won fair and square when she conceded? Do you think the folks who challenged the Trump vote in the Senate thought he won fair and square.

Biden won the election under the laws of the United States of America. I can say that with certainty. I can accept that with certainty. He is the President. Those are the rules. That’s the law.

Here is a 12 minute video of democrats denying election results.


https://gop.com/video/12-minutes-of-dem ... n-results/

[gounion]

Well I said Trump should have conceded. What do you think the consequences of that act means? Do you think Hillary believed Trump won fair and square when she conceded? Do you think the folks who challenged the Trump vote in the Senate thought he won fair and square.

Biden won the election under the laws of the United States of America. I can say that with certainty. I can accept that with certainty. He is the President. Those are the rules. That’s the law.

Hillary KNEW she lost fair and square. THAT'S why she conceded. YES. She was told she lost, and she knew it. It's tough, but you deal with it and move on, just like we did in 2000. Sure, people were pissed how the Supreme Court gave it to Bush, but that's our system. That's why you lied when you said they did the same thing in 2000 that the right did in 2020. You always try to make excuses.

But Trump's plan wasn't to win - Trump's plan was to LOSE, then spend the next four years trying to overthrow the loss, just like he has done in 2020.

And it's hilarious - it's like pulling teeth to get you to say ANYTHING about this - and, of course, you still haven't answered the question - Did Biden win fair and square? You answer it like you think a lawyer would.

Here's the truth you won't admit - BIDEN WON THE ELECTION FAIR AND SQUARE.

[gounion]

Here is a 12 minute video of democrats denying election results.


https://gop.com/video/12-minutes-of-dem ... n-results/

Always here to defend your Dear Leader.

[Drak]

Trying to justify a coup now, are we? “But the Dems did it too!”

No, the Dems did not. Disputing an election legally then accepting the outcome and conceding is not the same thing as disputing an election by sending an army of MAGA to the Capital to lay siege, hunt down politicians and attempt to halt certification and bring in false electors in order to to overthrow the government.

JFC these people are stupid and will defend Trump and normalize what he did and what he’s doing, no matter what.

And having a party of election deniers with a leader who never conceded and who constantly claims and projects that the election was stolen sets up a very dangerous ongoing attempt at dismantling democracy going into 2024.

[JoeMemphis]

Hillary KNEW she lost fair and square. THAT'S why she conceded. YES. She was told she lost, and she knew it. It's tough, but you deal with it and move on, just like we did in 2000. Sure, people were pissed how the Supreme Court gave it to Bush, but that's our system. That's why you lied when you said they did the same thing in 2000 that the right did in 2020. You always try to make excuses.

But Trump's plan wasn't to win - Trump's plan was to LOSE, then spend the next four years trying to overthrow the loss, just like he has done in 2020.

And it's hilarious - it's like pulling teeth to get you to say ANYTHING about this - and, of course, you still haven't answered the question - Did Biden win fair and square? You answer it like you think a lawyer would.

Here's the truth you won't admit - BIDEN WON THE ELECTION FAIR AND SQUARE.

Here is what you don’t get. You seem to think we all need to agree. We don’t. What we all need to do is follow the law. Biden won the election under our laws. Under our rules. I didn’t vote for either candidate. I would have been disappointed either way and was. But it’s not about whether I like the elelction or I agree with the election. We have 230 million people in this country. Only an idiot would think we will all agree on anything. What we can and should expect is that people ACCEPT the result under our laws.

I accept the result of the election. I stated Trump should have conceded when the last state certified the election result. The legal difficulties Trump faces today are his own damn fault because he didn’t behave like an adult human being and accept the results and move on. I have no sympathy for him as he is an idiot. Just more proof he wasn’t fit for office in the first place.

So mark this post and don’t forget it. I said derogatory things about Trump. I’ve done it before but you either can’t read or you just ignore them.

[gounion]

Here is what you don’t get. You seem to think we all need to agree. We don’t. What we all need to do is follow the law. Biden won the election under our laws. Under our rules. I didn’t vote for either candidate. I would have been disappointed either way and was. But it’s not about whether I like the elelction or I agree with the election. We have 230 million people in this country. Only an idiot would think we will all agree on anything. What we can and should expect is that people ACCEPT the result under our laws.

I accept the result of the election. I stated Trump should have conceded when the last state certified the election result. The legal difficulties Trump faces today are his own damn fault because he didn’t behave like an adult human being and accept the results and move on. I have no sympathy for him as he is an idiot. Just more proof he wasn’t fit for office in the first place.

So mark this post and don’t forget it. I said derogatory things about Trump. I’ve done it before but you either can’t read or you just ignore them.

Well, you’re pulling yet another false equivalency. Biden isn’t like Trump.

So why do you vote for and support people that are election deniers and follow Trump in his lies?

And let’s be clear: You don’t agree with Glenn on his attacks on Fani Willis, correct? You agree that the charges in Georgia and reasonable and fair?