Okay, let’s get this straight - the House Committee fishing to find evidence against Joe Biden’s supposed corruption subpoenas Hunter Biden. Fine, sez Hunter, but I want my testimony to be public and televised.
Hunter Biden offered Tuesday to testify publicly before Congress, striking a defiant note in response to a subpoena from Republicans and setting up a potential high-stakes face-off even as a separate special-counsel probe unfolds and his father, President Joe Biden, campaigns for re-election.
The Democratic president’s son slammed the subpoena’s request for closed-door testimony, saying it could be manipulated. But Rep. James Comer of Kentucky, the chairman of the House Oversight Committee, stood firm, saying Republicans expect “full cooperation” with their original demand for a deposition.
Hunter Biden’s lawyer called the inquiry a “fishing expedition,” in a response in line with the more aggressive legal approach he’s taken in recent months as congressional Republicans pursue an impeachment inquiry seeking to tie his father to his business dealings.
The early November subpoenas to Hunter Biden and others from Comer were the inquiry’s most aggressive step yet, testing the reach of congressional oversight powers.
gounion wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 11:26 am
Okay, let’s get this straight - the House Committee fishing to find evidence against Joe Biden’s supposed corruption subpoenas Hunter Biden. Fine, sez Hunter, but I want my testimony to be public and televised.
First they do not want Hunter Biden to testify in open session because they are chickenshit cowards! The one open session that the people actually got to see they were shown to be brainless fools! If Hunter testifies behind closed doors they can make up anything they want to claim he admitted to and the zombies who follow in their cult will believe it!
gounion wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 11:26 am
Okay, let’s get this straight - the House Committee fishing to find evidence against Joe Biden’s supposed corruption subpoenas Hunter Biden. Fine, sez Hunter, but I want my testimony to be public and televised.
Most initial questioning of a person of interest is done behind closed doors. Dunno why Hunter would object. I’m sure his lawyer will be there. If he has nothing to hide, he should go there with his lawyer and testify under oath.
JoeMemphis wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 1:43 pm
Most initial questioning of a person of interest is done behind closed doors. Dunno why Hunter would object. I’m sure his lawyer will be there. If he has nothing to hide, he should go there with his lawyer and testify under oath.
No, nice try. They subpoenaed him to testify before a committee. He's asking for it to be public, so they can't just release the things they want to. They don't want a public hearing.
gounion wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 2:33 pm
No, nice try. They subpoenaed him to testify before a committee. He's asking for it to be public, so they can't just release the things they want to. They don't want a public hearing.
It shows they know they don't have anything.
It is routine for these types of hearings to be closed door. But if they “don’t have anything” as you say then it matters not whether the hearing is closed or open.
Hunter has rights and he can assert those rights if he so chooses. He can choose to fight the subpoena. He can choose to assert his fifth amendment rights. He can choose to testify. But he doesn’t have the right to choose the venue of the hearing. The House Republicans aren’t going to allow Hunter to control the narrative.
If he has nothing to hide, he can go to the hearing with his attorney and answer questions under oath. If he is worried that he might incriminate himself or get tricked by committee members and fall into a perjury trap, he can take the 5th. Congressional hearings don’t have the same bite as DOJ investigations.
,Closed-door sessions are usually when there is information that is sensitive, classified, or would be embarrassing to the nation. I doubt hearings on Hunter Biden would meet any of these categories.
The truth is the GOP wants to control the narrative by having a closed-door session so "leaks" will paint Hunter Biden as a criminal. In closed-door sessions, IIRC, the person testifying isn't permitted to say what they told the committee so Hunter Biden wouldn't be able to publicly defend himself against "leaks."
JoeMemphis wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 4:09 pm
It is routine for these types of hearings to be closed door. But if they “don’t have anything” as you say then it matters not whether the hearing is closed or open.
Hunter has rights and he can assert those rights if he so chooses. He can choose to fight the subpoena. He can choose to assert his fifth amendment rights. He can choose to testify. But he doesn’t have the right to choose the venue of the hearing. The House Republicans aren’t going to allow Hunter to control the narrative.
If he has nothing to hide, he can go to the hearing with his attorney and answer questions under oath. If he is worried that he might incriminate himself or get tricked by committee members and fall into a perjury trap, he can take the 5th. Congressional hearings don’t have the same bite as DOJ investigations.
Wow, what a lousy excuse. You either don't know how Congressional hearings work, OR you're just trying to excuse the inexcusable. If they thought they had evidence on Joe Biden, they would want it put out in public hearings. The fact they DON'T want to have public hearings shows it's just all bullshit and they don't have anything.
gounion wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 5:02 pm
Wow, what a lousy excuse. You either don't know how Congressional hearings work, OR you're just trying to excuse the inexcusable. If they thought they had evidence on Joe Biden, they would want it put out in public hearings. The fact they DON'T want to have public hearings shows it's just all bullshit and they don't have anything.
I realize you believe you are an expert in all things so it’s a waste of time to point out that closed door hearings are a regular occurrence in both the house and the senate. But think what you choose. It doesn’t matter. There are going to be closed door hearings and Hunter can decide what he wants to do with his attorney. You don’t get a vote. I don’t get a vote.
JoeMemphis wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 5:53 pm
I realize you believe you are an expert in all things so it’s a waste of time to point out that closed door hearings are a regular occurrence in both the house and the senate. But think what you choose. It doesn’t matter. There are going to be closed door hearings and Hunter can decide what he wants to do with his attorney. You don’t get a vote. I don’t get a vote.
As #6 pointed out, they are only closed when there are national security concerns, or government secrets. Since Hunter Biden has NEVER been a government official or had a security clearance, that doesn’t apply.
It’s just another Republican scam, and you’re on board with it. It’s hilarious.
gounion wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 6:39 pm
As #6 pointed out, they are only closed when there are national security concerns, or government secrets. Since Hunter Biden has NEVER been a government official or had a security clearance, that doesn’t apply.
It’s just another Republican scam, and you’re on board with it. It’s hilarious.
I’m good with congressional oversight hearings. Yep. Open or closed. It’s a scam when things are done and swept under the rug without question. That’s why oversight hearings are necessary. To keep people from just dismissing them claiming there’s nothing to see so don’t bother looking. That’s how scams work.
Don’t worry. If there is nothing there then your boy Hunter will be just fine.
JoeMemphis wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 7:27 pm
I’m good with congressional oversight hearings. Yep. Open or closed. It’s a scam when things are done and swept under the rug without question. That’s why oversight hearings are necessary. To keep people from just dismissing them claiming there’s nothing to see so don’t bother looking. That’s how scams work.
Don’t worry. If there is nothing there then your boy Hunter will be just fine.
Give me ONE good reason that they shouldn't be open to everyone. You want the truth to come out about Joe Biden, don't you?
And he's not my boy. He's a jerk and an addict. But his father has done nothing wrong, except to care about his son. He has broken no laws.
gounion wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 8:58 am
Give me ONE good reason that they shouldn't be open to everyone. You want the truth to come out about Joe Biden, don't you?
And he's not my boy. He's a jerk and an addict. But his father has done nothing wrong, except to care about his son. He has broken no laws.
One good reason.
This is a deposition being handled by counsel for the minority and counsel for the majority. Based upon what I have heard reported, they will be reviewing or questioning a number of details they have gathered from the evidence they have collected such as bank records, emails, text messages etc. Doing this in open session with 5 minutes per member is not productive. These types of depositions are routinely handled in closed session.
I haven’t mentioned Joe Biden. He isn’t testifying. Hunter is.
JoeMemphis wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 9:19 am
One good reason.
This is a deposition being handled by counsel for the minority and counsel for the majority. Based upon what I have heard reported, they will be reviewing or questioning a number of details they have gathered from the evidence they have collected such as bank records, emails, text messages etc. Doing this in open session with 5 minutes per member is not productive. These types of depositions are routinely handled in closed session.
I haven’t mentioned Joe Biden. He isn’t testifying. Hunter is.
But it's not Hunter you're concerned about. It's Joe. He's the one that you are sure is a crook, and has done all kinds of things that should get him impeached.
Again, there's ZERO reason that Hunter should not testify publicly. The GOP is scared of it, because they'll have to show that they have nothing whatsoever in the way of actual proof against Joe Biden.
Comer and Jordan got absolutely obliterated the last time they attempted a public hearing. If they had something here they would make it public. But they know they’ll get destroyed again so they want to create their own narrative by making it closed door. Only an idiot would buy what they’re selling and defend it. Absolute clowns and cowards. They have nothing. It’s all BS that originates from Rudy and his Kremlin pals. The GOP has done absolutely nothing aside from this circus garbage for nearly a year.
"Some of those that work forces,
Are the same that burn crosses"
gounion wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 9:34 am
But it's not Hunter you're concerned about. It's Joe. He's the one that you are sure is a crook, and has done all kinds of things that should get him impeached.
Again, there's ZERO reason that Hunter should not testify publicly. The GOP is scared of it, because they'll have to show that they have nothing whatsoever in the way of actual proof against Joe Biden.
Hunter is in the witness chair. I haven’t accused his daddy of a crime. I’m perfectly happy to see where the evidence leads us. If as you claim, there is no evidence then neither Biden has anything to fear.
gounion wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 9:34 am
But it's not Hunter you're concerned about. It's Joe. He's the one that you are sure is a crook, and has done all kinds of things that should get him impeached.
Again, there's ZERO reason that Hunter should not testify publicly. The GOP is scared of it, because they'll have to show that they have nothing whatsoever in the way of actual proof against Joe Biden.
Another day another lie. Memphis has never called Biden a crook or said he should be removed from office.
JoeMemphis wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 11:29 am
Hunter is in the witness chair. I haven’t accused his daddy of a crime. I’m perfectly happy to see where the evidence leads us. If as you claim, there is no evidence then neither Biden has anything to fear.
gounion wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 12:19 pm
So it’s Biden you’re after - not Hunter. Got it.
I’m just looking for the truth. You should want the same. I said earlier that I am perfectly comfortable seeing where the facts take us. Are you? You seem an overly protective with people asking questions or investigating. Why is that?
Why can’t you make your point without putting words in the mouth of another poster? You said the other day that if you can’t make your argument without lying then you don’t have an argument. Do you really believe that? You certainly don’t live by those words.
The truth would be via a public hearing. That has been offered. That's transparency. Now the House is running scared and refuses because the last times they've done this they were obliterated. Sad that Republicans are so easily manipulated. But I'm going to suggest even the board cons here know better and they're lying. They don't want the truth, because nobody should be this stupid, that they are buying this crap.
Nothing but constant sham investigations and distractions for Donald Trump. Marg is out there filing articles of impeachment again today, too. The House GOP has done absolutely NOTHING for the American people. Who votes for this?
"Some of those that work forces,
Are the same that burn crosses"
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Other than continuing Nancy Pelosi’s budget, introducing censure motions, holding press conferences, issuing subpoenas, filing articles of impeachment, doing interviews, and selling books and tshirts, it’s unclear to me exactly what House Republicans do.
"Some of those that work forces,
Are the same that burn crosses"
Drak wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 1:32 pm
The truth would be via a public hearing. That has been offered. That's transparency. Now the House is running scared and refuses because the last times they've done this they were obliterated. Sad that Republicans are so easily manipulated. But I'm going to suggest even the board cons here know better and they're lying. They don't want the truth, because nobody should be this stupid, that they are buying this crap.
Nothing but constant sham investigations and distractions for Donald Trump. Marg is out there filing articles of impeachment again today, too. The House GOP has done absolutely NOTHING for the American people. Who votes for this?
The truth rarely comes out in a public congressional hearing where you go back and forth 5 minutes at a time. Rarely. Not to mention that most of the time is spent, not on facts but rather making speeches. No. Closed door depositions conducted by counsel for the majority and the minority with time evenly divided and where the witness is accompanied by counsel cuts through all the political bullshit done by politicians in front of cameras. It comes closer to how depositions are conducted every single day across this country. It’s a tried and true method used to gather evidence and information.
No, sorry. A closed door meeting means the GOP gets to spin away, lie and push their own narrative. A public hearing is more transparent. Funny how the local cons will just buy anything the GOP sells them. If the GOP wanted a public hearing the local cons would say the opposite of what they're saying in here. Were there ever any honest conservatives on this site?
"Some of those that work forces,
Are the same that burn crosses"
JoeMemphis wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 2:07 pm
The truth rarely comes out in a public congressional hearing where you go back and forth 5 minutes at a time. Rarely. Not to mention that most of the time is spent, not on facts but rather making speeches. No. Closed door depositions conducted by counsel for the majority and the minority with time evenly divided and where the witness is accompanied by counsel cuts through all the political bullshit done by politicians in front of cameras. It comes closer to how depositions are conducted every single day across this country. It’s a tried and true method used to gather evidence and information.
A public hearing is for show.
EVERYTHING the GOP does is for show. The Jan 6th hearings weren’t for show.
The GOP did a closed-door hearing on Devon Archer, Hunter Biden’s partner. Then James Comey went on Fox News and lied about what he testified to. The Dems forced them to release the transcript, which showed Joe Biden’s innocence. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hunter- ... =103569117
Again, it’s all lies from the GOP. And you’re good with that, aren’t you?
Drak wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 2:17 pm
No, sorry. A closed door meeting means the GOP gets to spin away, lie and push their own narrative. A public hearing is more transparent. Funny how the local cons will just buy anything the GOP sells them. If the GOP wanted a public hearing the local cons would say the opposite of what they're saying in here. Were there ever any honest conservatives on this site?
I’m not buying anything. I just watched enough public hearings to know it’s 90 percent speech and 10 percent actual fact finding. There will be public hearings at some point I am sure. But I have absolutely no problem with closed door depositions especially when the transcripts will be made available thereafter. Hunter will have his attorney and I’m sure his rights will be well protected. As I said closed door hearings are common in DC and closed door depositions happen everyday in lawyers offices and courthouses across this country. The sun will still come up in the morning. You will survive.
Yes, you seem to buy everything they sell you. Most of the time you’re repeating GOP talking points. If they wanted a public hearing, you’d be for it. The fact is, they get destroyed by transparency like last time so they don’t want that. These people are liars. They haven’t proven one thing about Hunter Biden or Joe Biden. They keep saying they have all this evidence, like personal loan checks, which isn’t a crime, but haven’t proven one thing. This is a circus for suckers. Bring it out in the open if you’re confident. This isn’t a national security issue.
"Some of those that work forces,
Are the same that burn crosses"
