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ProfX wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 7:42 am The Biden administration ended an inhumane immigration policy that also violated international human rights (family separation). They also ended pandemic era restrictions because, well, the pandemic is over.

Yeah, the number of migrants increased as economic conditions in the U.S. improved and the pandemic receded. I could have predicted that.

Whatever they are or aren't doing, doesn't excuse the choices the Abbott administration is making, and its consequences on human lives.
Murdering children seems to make the conservatives very happy.
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ProfX wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 7:42 am The Biden administration ended an inhumane immigration policy that also violated international human rights (family separation). They also ended pandemic era restrictions because, well, the pandemic is over.

Yeah, the number of migrants increased as economic conditions in the U.S. improved and the pandemic receded. I could have predicted that.

Whatever they are or aren't doing, doesn't excuse the choices the Abbott administration is making, and its consequences on human lives.
Oh that’s a load of bullshit. What excuses the administrations lack of attention to the border? What excuses the people living in our streets? What excuses the thousands of unaccompanied minors they have turned over to people they do. It know a damn thing about and can no longer locate of monitor. This shit should have stopped at the border. There aren’t any excuses for just throwing open the doors and throwing up your hands and blaming Reagan or Bush or Trump for this shit. Nobody is buying that horseshit anymore.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 8:31 am Oh that’s a load of bullshit. What excuses the administrations lack of attention to the border? What excuses the people living in our streets? What excuses the thousands of unaccompanied minors they have turned over to people they do. It know a damn thing about and can no longer locate of monitor. This shit should have stopped at the border. There aren’t any excuses for just throwing open the doors and throwing up your hands and blaming Reagan or Bush or Trump for this shit. Nobody is buying that horseshit anymore.
We’ve shown there’s no lack of attention from the Biden Administration.

Push the children into the razor wire. Let them die on buses.

Fuck’em, right? Blame it on Biden, that’ll wash the blood off your hands.
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gounion wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 9:18 am We’ve shown there’s no lack of attention from the Biden Administration.

Push the children into the razor wire. Let them die on buses.

Fuck’em, right? Blame it on Biden, that’ll wash the blood off your hands.
Well if that’s the Biden administrations way of paying attention to a problem it’s no wonder polls show most Americans believe the country is on the wrong track. People aren’t buying the horseshit. They know the border is a problem. Now some democrats are starting to speak out about the administrations lack of attention. So by all means run on your border policy. Run on it.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 9:30 am Well if that’s the Biden administrations way of paying attention to a problem it’s no wonder polls show most Americans believe the country is on the wrong track. People aren’t buying the horseshit. They know the border is a problem. Now some democrats are starting to speak out about the administrations lack of attention. So by all means run on your border policy. Run on it.
Joe Biden didn’t order children killed. Abbott did.

But you don’t care about dead children, do you? You fucking bloody hypocrite.

You can’t even shed crocodile tears for them, you just don’t care.
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gounion wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 9:32 am Joe Biden didn’t order children killed. Abbott did.

But you don’t care about dead children, do you? You fucking bloody hypocrite.

You can’t even shed crocodile tears for them, you just don’t care.
Abbott didn’t order it. Show me the order. He erected a barrier because the sitting POTUS refuses to do his fucking job. Those death are on the back of a POTUS who has surrendered our border to the cartels. You got a problem with that then you need to go see the man in charge. He is sitting in a lounge chair on the beach. He’s wearing aviators.
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The parents of that child should be arrested. There child died during the commission of a crime
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i was once told by a law enforcement officer that i could install a fence and alarm system to protect my house. He did question whether or not setting bear traps would hold up in a court of law though. He didn't question my suggestion of electrifying the fence though. Apparently that was a big no. Even my suggestion of covering the fence in warning signs didn't fly.

Right now i really don't give a shit who's fault it is. i do give a shit about the razor wire and buoys. It's cruel and inhumane. This isn't war.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 10:43 am The parents of that child should be arrested. There child died during the commission of a crime
So you weren't talking about the parents having prior criminal records. Unreal.
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bradman wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 10:46 am i was once told by a law enforcement officer that i could install a fence and alarm system to protect my house. He did question whether or not setting bear traps would hold up in a court of law though. He didn't question my suggestion of electrifying the fence though. Apparently that was a big no. Even my suggestion of covering the fence in warning signs didn't fly.

Right now i really don't give a shit who's fault it is. i do give a shit about the razor wire and buoys. It's cruel and inhumane.
I have a lot of questions about the border Brad. The first one is why the fuck doesn’t POTUS get off his ass and do the job he signed up to do. It’s cruel and inhumane??? Who is in charge of this clusterfuck of a policy?? He refuses to do his job and then criticizes other people who dare to stand up and do what he refuses to do. The govs in those border states didn’t ask for this. It was foisted on them by the idiot in the WH. There is no excuse for him or his policy. None.

Those kids are dead because he allows it to happen and continue to allow it to happen while he sits his ass on the beach in Delaware.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 10:56 am I have a lot of questions about the border Brad. The first one is why the fuck doesn’t POTUS get off his ass and do the job he signed up to do. It’s cruel and inhumane??? Who is in charge of this clusterfuck of a policy?? He refuses to do his job and then criticizes other people who dare to stand up and do what he refuses to do. The govs in those border states didn’t ask for this. It was foisted on them by the idiot in the WH. There is no excuse for him or his policy. None.

Those kids are dead because he allows it to happen and continue to allow it to happen while he sits his ass on the beach in Delaware.
What part of, "Right now i really don't give a shit who's fault it is," wasn't understandable. :mrgreen:

There is no excuse for the razor wire and buoys. Period.
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bradman wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 11:01 am What part of, "Right now i really don't give a shit who's fault it is," wasn't understandable.

There is no excuse for the razor wire and buoys. Period.
There is no excuse for surrendering the border to the cartels. Period.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 11:03 am There is no excuse for surrendering the border to the cartels. Period.
The problem is decades old and growing worse.

All because we don't address the root of the problem. Make that go away, and they will quit coming. Want to talk about that count me in.

Besides the razor wire, the rest i don't give a shit about. :mrgreen:
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bradman wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 11:16 am The problem is decades old and growing worse.

All because we don't address the root of the problem. Make that go away, and they will quit coming. Want to talk about that count me in.

Besides the razor wire, the rest i don't give a shit about. :mrgreen:
With all due respect Brad. This POTUS took something that wasn’t perfect but was working to a degree. But because he didn’t like the man behind the idea, he thre it out without a fucking clue what to do in its place. All you need to do is look at the numbers to know it’s true. Prepandemic numbers.

Border states have been complaining for years. All they have gotten were piss poor excuses. Now blue city Dems running sanctuary cities and states are complaining about this incompetent border policy. I get you don’t give a shit. But they do. They’ve been living with the consequences for the last two years. They’ve been living with the piss poor policy and piss poor excuses. The kid on the razor wire isn’t the only victim. There are others. The main stream news media doesn’t seem it newsworthy to mention. The trafficked kids among others.

So I really am not interested in hearing outrage against a Gov in a border state trying to do the job POTUS refuses to do. If that incompetent idiot did his job in the first place, we wouldn’t be where we are. If you are outraged then you are just now feeling the outrage these border states have been dealing with for two years.
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Elect drumpf again and he'll resume construction of his worthless wall. That won't help a bit.

In California, they tunnel under it. Rooms in Tijuana fill up with dirt, and people appear from nowhere in San Ysidro. Often they come bearing drugs, the better to pay for it all. The best tunnels have lighting, air, and often even small rails for faster movement.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 10:56 am I have a lot of questions about the border Brad. The first one is why the fuck doesn’t POTUS get off his ass and do the job he signed up to do. It’s cruel and inhumane??? Who is in charge of this clusterfuck of a policy?? He refuses to do his job and then criticizes other people who dare to stand up and do what he refuses to do. The govs in those border states didn’t ask for this. It was foisted on them by the idiot in the WH. There is no excuse for him or his policy. None.

Those kids are dead because he allows it to happen and continue to allow it to happen while he sits his ass on the beach in Delaware.
Wow, now every murderer can say “it’s the President’s fault!”

You conservatives are crazy.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 11:26 am With all due respect Brad. This POTUS took something that wasn’t perfect but was working to a degree. But because he didn’t like the man behind the idea, he thre it out without a fucking clue what to do in its place. All you need to do is look at the numbers to know it’s true. Prepandemic numbers.

Border states have been complaining for years. All they have gotten were piss poor excuses. Now blue city Dems running sanctuary cities and states are complaining about this incompetent border policy. I get you don’t give a shit. But they do. They’ve been living with the consequences for the last two years. They’ve been living with the piss poor policy and piss poor excuses. The kid on the razor wire isn’t the only victim. There are others. The main stream news media doesn’t seem it newsworthy to mention. The trafficked kids among others.

So I really am not interested in hearing outrage against a Gov in a border state trying to do the job POTUS refuses to do. If that incompetent idiot did his job in the first place, we wouldn’t be where we are. If you are outraged then you are just now feeling the outrage these border states have been dealing with for two years.
The same to you Joe.

With all due respect, Razor wire, electric fence, or bear traps will not fix the problem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRn7RxU9boc :mrgreen:
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gounion wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 11:33 am Wow, now every murderer can say “it’s the President’s fault!”

You conservatives are crazy.
Keep making excuses for the incompetent border policy of this administration. By all means. Make sure Biden runs on this success just like the successful surrender and evacuation of Afghanistan. Run on that. While you are at it, run on his approach to law enforcement. His record as it regards national security on the border and domestic security is an absolute joke. So by all means have him runs on all his successes. You are soooo proud of them, run on them. Nobody will but it but go ahead and give it a shot.
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bradman wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 11:38 am The same to you Joe.

With all due respect, Razor wire, electric fence, or bear traps will not fix the problem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRn7RxU9boc :mrgreen:
With all due respect, surrendering the border to criminal cartels and ignoring the problem hasn’t solved the problem and won’t solve the problem and will only result in more needless deaths. Biden wanted the job. How about waking him up and asking him to do his fucking job instead of making excuses for him.

People are tired of this utter stupidity.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 11:41 am With all due respect, surrendering the border to criminal cartels and ignoring the problem hasn’t solved the problem and won’t solve the problem and will only result in more needless deaths. Biden wanted the job. How about waking him up and asking him to do his fucking job instead of making excuses for him.

People are tired of this utter stupidity.
i dunno Joe. To me utter stupidity is believing walls work. Keeping people in or out, they always fail.
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Drumpf lost the war in Afghanistan. Of course, even this is an oversimplification. That war was lost from the beginning. It was misbegotten, and never done even competently, let alone right, and the blame remains on Goober's people. They got Americans killed for a cause even they did not believe in.

The plan to cut and run, as Republicans like to call it, was put in place well before Biden was in office.

You know, I hate all this arguing about the past when the future is looking more grim by the day.
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bradman wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 11:49 am i dunno Joe. To me utter stupidity is believing walls work. Keeping people in or out, they always fail.
Trump wanted to shoot them at the border, Abbot listened to him. Just a different way to kill children.
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bradman wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 11:49 am i dunno Joe. To me utter stupidity is believing walls work. Keeping people in or out, they always fail.
Well Brad, walls were part of it. Not all of it but part of it. Wasn’t perfect but it was a damn sight better than doing absolutely nothing. Better than assigning an incompetent VP and Director of HS who do nothing. Better than throwing open the doors and handing out court dates three or four years out.

It’s been in the news for two years. It’s not like it just popped up like fires in HI. We just have a POTUS who doesn’t give a fuck about the problem or it’s effects on those migrants or the stress that it puts on infrastructure in the border states. He doesn’t give a shit for the people living on the streets or the crime in the inner city. He’s got no plan for any of it. He’s an empty suit.

The border problem and the resulting deaths are squarely his responsibility. He is incompetent and reckless. These sanctuary city and state governors and mayors are just waking up to the fact after two years and they are acting surprised. Where the hell have they been?
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JoeMemphis wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 12:07 pm Well Brad, walls were part of it. Not all of it but part of it. Wasn’t perfect but it was a damn sight better than doing absolutely nothing. Better than assigning an incompetent VP and Director of HS who do nothing. Better than throwing open the doors and handing out court dates three or four years out.

It’s been in the news for two years. It’s not like it just popped up like fires in HI. We just have a POTUS who doesn’t give a fuck about the problem or it’s effects on those migrants or the stress that it puts on infrastructure in the border states. He doesn’t give a shit for the people living on the streets or the crime in the inner city. He’s got no plan for any of it. He’s an empty suit.

The border problem and the resulting deaths are squarely his responsibility. He is incompetent and reckless. These sanctuary city and state governors and mayors are just waking up to the fact after two years and they are acting surprised. Where the hell have they been?
The question is, how do we make the Mexican border into something like we have on Canadian border?

Any ideas?
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