The Donald Trump is Batcrap Crazy and The Leader of the GOP Thread

[Bludogdem]

I get it. Believe me, nothing can be more boring than an NPR cooking show and that sketch skewers them. The key to it is Baldwin talking about his Schweddy Balls in such a deadpan way. Now it's a Ben & Jerry's flavor.

All I'm saying is, if you're wondering about news programs that pursue ratings and profits, it might have something to do with a culture that increasingly pursues news that is exciting or entertaining, or as they sometimes call it in the lit, "infotainment". They are giving the people what they want. I'm not saying there isn't a feedback loop. They also are being "trained" to want what they want.

I’m a big fan of the PBS Newshour

Also enjoy the cooking and foodie shows on PBS. But I like to cook and in particular like unique and creative restaurants. Also a big fan of the classic Chop Houses.

[carmenjonze]

https://bombas.com/

[carmenjonze]

Today in Apples and Oranges...

So what you are saying is that when a progressive or a news outlet refers to a conservative as a nazi or fascist it is different than when a conservstive news outlet refers to a progressive as a socialist or communist
Sigh

Yes, it's quite different, because the history is different.

Two brief examples:

1- mainstream news outlets hyped up and stoked anti-Black hatred among whites and are responsible for instigating lynchings and you guys burning down entire parts of town on some salacious rumor of rape.

See: 'Printing Hate' project explores U.S. newspapers' role in promoting lynchings, and viewtopic.php?p=345#p345

2- you guys set up two entire houses of Congress bent on commiebaiting, called HUAC and the Senate version, the US Senate Subcommittee on Internal Security. This is not to mention all the state versions. My grandparents paid for this and other white-conservative legal/legislative atrocities, as did Asian-American grandparents, Latino grandparents, Native American grandparents, all to prop up you guys' fake sense of superiority über Alles.

2a- if you think no. 2 is not related to no. 1, think again, because your own personal version of commiebaiting around here comes from white conservatives commiebaiting anyone having to do with civil rights and the dismantling of the white-supremacist domestic terrorism machine. See the current rightwing moral panic over CRT and the 1619 project, trans girls on the sports team, and antivaxx/antimasking. It follows the exact same pattern.

Hm, now that I think about it, no wonder you guys scapegoated Black men for the rapes (such as of 15 year olds) you criminals committed, got away with, and ran around boasting about marrying her. Anyway. Different topic.

[carmenjonze]

You defend Democrats no matter what.

Well no, you're confusing GoU with Sam Lefthand, who is so unthinkingly absolutist about a word ("Democrat") he can barely think rationally at all. It's like his brain shorts out whenever it pops up on his screen.

OGOH, there are plenty of people around here, self included, who don't have a problem critiquing aspects of the party we vote for. You're not one of them, because you're not even honest about what you vote for.

You do nothing but attack Republicans and conservatives.

Republicans and conservatives are destroying this country. You guys' literal attack on the capitol of the nation, for example.

Cry me a river about having your dirty lifestyle choice criticized on an anonymous message board.

[carmenjonze]

Biden won the popular vote by about 8 million with around 82 million votes to 74 million. Doing this from memory in case my numbers are slightly off.
Of that 82 million many were people like me who just couldn't stomach trump. Now Biden in his political career has always been somewhat of a center left Democrat.

You have it backwards. He's been center-right. If you're in doubt, check his record on segregation/busing, Anita Hill, and the Crime Bill, which was flat-out rightwing.

He gets to the WH and goes hard left supporting and passing pretty close to what a president Sanders would be able to pass.

:problem:

Sanders is not "hard left." You're even gullible and manipulated enough to think there are people on RFL that are "hard left".

The Chinese govt is "hard left." The Cuban govt is hard left. The USSR was hard left -- the country head today was head of the KGB, and the WNs of that country are now in league with WNs in the USA - Harvard International Review.

Incidentally, the PRC govt happens to be the best capitalists in the world.

If just 4 million less than 4pct of his total and less than 3pct of all voters are turned off by his turn to the left he is done if he decides to run for re-election. Which I don't see him doing do to age.
But if the democratic party nominee is or campaigns to the left of Biden the democratic party is in trouble.
Ours is a centrist nation ...

If this is a centrist nation, it's only that way because of people like RFLers who balance out the economic and social ravages of centuries of white conservatism.

Your current little resurgence or whatever won't work, either. Your CRT/1619 bans are going the way of you guys' Ethnic Studies bans in Arizona.

...that will elect a person who is slightly left or slightly right. We will not elect a person who is hard left or hard right if we have a choice.

Nobody is deterred by these dumb threats. Nobody is dumb enough to take political advice from criminal confederate rapists, either.

[carmenjonze]

I’ve read way too much history ...

[ProfX]

I’m a big fan of the PBS Newshour

As I said, me too. Now I'm also a fan of Democracy Now. Here we may differ. They definitely have an ideological slant.

However, it's refreshing. They'll discuss - say - problems affecting migrant farmworkers in America - and they'll bring on people from that group and what they're suffering, as well as actual academic experts on the problem. No mighty morphing graphics walls, Amy Goodman and other hosts don't do rap songs for the audience, ... I find it kinda refreshing to watch, either through podcast or Freespeech TV. They will sit down and discuss a social issue or problem in America for 15 minutes. I know, people are not used to that, there is a Bieber "breaking" sighting to chase. They definitely are not chasing ratings and we have a whole thread on how dare programs or networks get low ratings, how can they stay in business.

Look, I don't mind the other approach. Randi Rhodes does comedy sketches and Steffie Miller lots of fart jokes. A little bit of entertainment is good. People slam Randi, but she too tells people to watch/listen to PBS NewsHour. She is no journalist, but she tells people to go to real journalism like the NYT in her "homework", and I really like that she does.

[ProfX]

We're in agreement. What the news became is infotainment; a combination of information (news) and entertainment (personalities). The anchors or hosts of the programs have to have the personality or be entertaining to draw viewers. The news becomes less important and longs as the anchors or hosts are entertaining.

Anchors have to be entertaining, yes. I guess it's why even Rachel Maddow will put on an astronaut suit or mix cocktails. She even has a voice part on "Batwoman," I kid you not. Ari Melber will do rap lyrics for his audience. You need a gimmick. Shame, as I said, Walter Cronkite had no gimmick.

But it's also in the choice of what to cover. Who really cares where Justin Bieber last took a whiz? I ask that rhetorically because obviously enough people do because tabloids like the NatEq are hardly going out of business. Clearly lots of people do. Hey, shock, ratings-driven "news" often chases celebrities, and covers things that are sensationalistic. Nothing rivets your attention like the latest bloody murder in your city so "if it bleeds it leads". They could bring on a sociologist who points out murder in going down in your town and had been for years. BOOOOORING.

As Neil Postman points out, the worst part of "infotainment" is there is a sliding away from interest in truth as people become addicted to excitement and adrenaline. People wonder why now there are people waiting for JFK Sr. to rise out of the grave in Dallas or chugging horse paste to treat COVID-19 ... well this phenomenon did NOT start with Trump. As lots of folks noted, he was just a culmination. What a shock, his best pals were the NatEq publisher (for a while, anyway) and Alex Jones.

Jones, too, knows what his people want, and gives it to them. Nothing is coincidence, "they" are leaving clues to their secret workings like you are Scooby-Doo ready to uncover "their" nefarious plots. A logo on a pizzeria in DC is really them revealing the Satanic rituals they've been doing to kids, all hidden in plain sight. Along with his man-powered bone broth and magic neutriceuticals.

[gounion]

NAZI Fascist and other terms have been used so often to describe public officials that they now have zero meaning

So it's perfectly fine for Fox News to use it. Got it.

[Drak]

The Traitor Admits to Obstruction of Justice.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-j ... ia-1656264.

The Traitor has suggested that he wouldn't have been president for four years if he didn't fire former FBI Director James Comey amid Special Counsel Robert Mueller's Russia investigation.

Speaking on Fox News' Life, Liberty & Levin to promote his new book, Our Journey Together, Trump suggested that he may not have survived his presidency if Comey was not relieved of his position in May 2017.

Trump also used the interview to describe the Muller investigation into Russian interference during the 2016 election as a "hoax" while condemning Hillary Clinton and late Republican Senator John McCain for helping to push the allegations.

Trump and the GOP have normalized their criminal behavior. The local Republicans don’t seem to care.

[Drak]

Gaslighting batshit propaganda.


Trump called American soldiers “suckers and losers.” Trump refused to act on Putin for placing a bounty on American soldiers. Trump blamed Academy Students for a Covid superspreader event when he was to blame. Trump held a superspreader event for gold star families when he knew he was infected. Trump handed American military bases over to Russia. Trump signed a surrender deal with the Taliban.

[carmenjonze]

Go start your own fking thread.

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[carmenjonze]

NAZI Fascist and other terms have been used so often to describe public officials that they now have zero meaning

Well no, the opposite is true. Words mean things. Your party has actual neonazis and neo-Confederates in it. Your party standard is a white nationalist. Since you're a classic mark for these racist opportinists, you dutifully vote GOP.
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@BerniceKing

My father wrote this in 1967 (after ‘I Have A Dream’). And we are seeing it today. If we don’t deal with it, his dream won’t happen. It was never about not talking about racism. White supremacists are more than talking about it; they’re doing it and using it toward THEIR dream.



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[gounion]

You defend Democrats no matter what. You do nothing but attack Republicans and conservatives.

Nope. Not true. I don't like corruption. I see a corrupt Dem, I say get him the hell out of there. And we have had them.

But corruption is now ALL the GOP is. And you'll happily vote for them all the time.

You have Donald Trump, who you say you don't support. But you vote for all his toadies, who support him 100%. That's the reality.

[gounion]

Well no, the opposite is true. Words mean things. Your party has actual neonazis and neo-Confederates in it. Your party standard is a white nationalist. Since you're a classic mark for these racist opportinists, you dutifully vote GOP.

Glenn will do or say anything the defend the right. That's what happens when you have no moral compass of your own.

[Drak]

Nope. Not true. I don't like corruption. I see a corrupt Dem, I say get him the hell out of there. And we have had them.

But corruption is now ALL the GOP is. And you'll happily vote for them all the time.

You have Donald Trump, who you say you don't support. But you vote for all his toadies, who support him 100%. That's the reality.

This is absolutely true, and it's been pointed out over and over. When Dems are unethical or commit crimes, we call them out. When the same happens with the GOP, we hardly hear a peep out of the locals. And the fact is, Donald Trump is the most vile, corrupt and unfit person ever to sit in the WH, and he's the leader of the Republican Party. Anyone with a smidgen of decency would not support this party, because they walk lock and step with him.

[Drak]

"I miss Donald Trump " - Lindsey Graham

[Drak]

Link to video of Matt Gaetz from today, discussing that they'd like to see Trump made Speaker of the House. Speaker of the House is 3rd in line to the Presidency if something happens to the President and VP.

They already attempted a coup. The coup is ongoing. They hunted down Pence and Pelosi, trying to wipe out the line. So why wouldn't they try again by impeaching both the President and VP if they have a huge majority to do so? And if they don't have the numbers to do so (Senate removal post impeachment), who's to say they wouldn't attempt violence, since they did carry out violence the first time?

They've already said that if they win back the House, they will immediately impeach Joe Biden.

Trump keeps talking about being reinstalled. So do his toadies. This isn't a joke.

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1468296845889662978

Acyn
@Acyn
Reporter: Do you want ex-President Trump to be speaker?
Gaetz: I would
Reporter: Have you talked to him about it?
Gaetz: I have

[carmenjonze]

Link to video of Matt Gaetz from today, discussing that they'd like to see Trump made Speaker of the House. Speaker of the House is 3rd in line to the Presidency if something happens to the President and VP.

They already attempted a coup. The coup is ongoing. They hunted down Pence and Pelosi, trying to wipe out the line. So why wouldn't they try again by impeaching both the President and VP if they have a huge majority to do so? And if they don't have the numbers to do so (Senate removal post impeachment), who's to say they wouldn't attempt violence, since they did carry out violence the first time?

They've already said that if they win back the House, they will immediately impeach Joe Biden.

Trump keeps talking about being reinstalled. So do his toadies. This isn't a joke.

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1468296845889662978

Acyn
@Acyn
Reporter: Do you want ex-President Trump to be speaker?
Gaetz: I would
Reporter: Have you talked to him about it?
Gaetz: I have

This came up on the old board a bit before it went down. The usual subjects laughed it off, and no it's not a joke.

These WSs are serious as a heart attack. The duped cons around here and their sycophants should take note -- it's not us they come for, first. Ask Ernst Röhm.

[marindem01]

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But then Glenn won't be able to attempt the thread.

[JoeMemphis]

Nope. Not true. I don't like corruption. I see a corrupt Dem, I say get him the hell out of there. And we have had them.

But corruption is now ALL the GOP is. And you'll happily vote for them all the time.

You have Donald Trump, who you say you don't support. But you vote for all his toadies, who support him 100%. That's the reality.

And you vote for Democrat toadies. No matter what.
You and I both know you aren’t going to vote for a conservative Republican under any circumstances. Yet you seem to think that I should vote for Democrats who will tow the line on the Biden/Pelosi/Schumer agenda. I didn’t vote for Trump. That doesn’t mean I am going to vote for people who support an agenda I think is wrong for the country.

[gounion]

And you vote for Democrat toadies. No matter what.

When Donald Trump owns the party lock, stock and barrel, voting for a Republican is not an option.

You and I both know you aren’t going to vote for a conservative Republican under any circumstances.

You know, there HAVE been decent GOP Presidents, well, G.H.W. Bush was a good and decent man.

Yet you seem to think that I should vote for Democrats who will tow the line on the Biden/Pelosi/Schumer agenda. I didn’t vote for Trump. That doesn’t mean I am going to vote for people who support an agenda I think is wrong for the country.

Bullshit. We've lived quite happily for years under Democratic Presidents and our country has done well under them. The last two Republican Presidents have been complete disasters. G.W. Bush gave us two insane wars and a economic disaster.

Now we have a party that, if they take control of the House, want to make Trump the Speaker of the House and will try to impeach Biden AND Harris to make Trump President again.

And you'll vote for people that will vote to do just that, won't you?

[JoeMemphis]

When Donald Trump owns the party lock, stock and barrel, voting for a Republican is not an option.

You know, there HAVE been decent GOP Presidents, well, G.H.W. Bush was a good and decent man.
Bullshit. We've lived quite happily for years under Democratic Presidents and our country has done well under them. The last two Republican Presidents have been complete disasters. G.W. Bush gave us two insane wars and a economic disaster.

Now we have a party that, if they take control of the House, want to make Trump the Speaker of the House and will try to impeach Biden AND Harris to make Trump President again.

And you'll vote for people that will vote to do just that, won't you?

Do you believe every conspiracy theory you read on the internet? Bottomline, I am not about to support the Biden/Pelosi/Schumer agenda. I don’t think it’s good for this country. I don’t care who you vote for nor do I care what calculus you do to arrive at that decision. It is your vote to spend and how you spend it is up to you. I don’t recall ever asking anyone on this board who they voted for. I don’t care.

This is a discussion board. I prefer to talk policy.

[Drak]

Well no, the opposite is true. Words mean things. Your party has actual neonazis and neo-Confederates in it. Your party standard is a white nationalist. Since you're a classic mark for these racist opportinists, you dutifully vote GOP.

Trump's dangerous, insane, unhinged, delusional and totally disproven non stop barrage of election fraud lies are also straight out of the Nazi playbook. That's a fact. And the GOP goes along with him pushing those dangerous, unhinged lies - a constant attack on democracy. And Donald Trump is the leader of the Republican Party.

[Drak]

Do you believe every conspiracy theory you read on the internet? Bottomline, I am not about to support the Biden/Pelosi/Schumer agenda. I don’t think it’s good for this country. I don’t care who you vote for nor do I care what calculus you do to arrive at that decision. It is your vote to spend and how you spend it is up to you. I don’t recall ever asking anyone on this board who they voted for. I don’t care.

This is a discussion board. I prefer to talk policy.

It's not a conspiracy theory made up on the Internet. They just spoke about it again today. There's a link to video. There's was a plan for it brought to CPAC. Trump and his sycophants are making these claims. It's coming directly from them. It's not made up.