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You ain't kidding! Love Love Love it! :) Watching the beginning of Ed's show tonight almost brought me to tears. Finally someone is speaking our language. Wouldn't it be something (a miracle perhaps) if Bernie is today's Barack and ends up kicking Clinton to the curb again?


:arrow: I wouldn't be at all surprised if it happened that Bernie gets the nomination at all. I don't think that Hillary is as inevitable as everyone thinks she is. I didn't in 2007-08 and I don't now. I don't feel like she is "wowing" a whole lot of people, and I can almost guarantee that she is sending out her supporters like Claire McCaskill and Lanny Davis to either slam Bernie Sanders or slamming the questions the media has about her private server and emails. Bernie won't directly slam her or any other opponent because as he says, it's not about him or the other candidates, it's about the people who only want a fair shake. He speaks to the people, not at them or down to them. People feel like Bernie is one of them and he speaks about their problems and has a plan of how to fix it. You don't feel like he is just saying what he thinks people want to hear, he is just genuine, not pandering. I got a kick out of msnbc last night, Lawrence O'Donnell actually who posed the question "who would Sen. Elizabeth Warren support" then quoted what she said, that she "agrees with everything Bernie is saying...." as if Bernie had to go out and 'beg" for her support, he's already got it basically...lol.

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:arrow: I wouldn't be at all surprised if it happened that Bernie gets the nomination at all. I don't think that Hillary is as inevitable as everyone thinks she is. I didn't in 2007-08 and I don't now. I don't feel like she is "wowing" a whole lot of people, and I can almost guarantee that she is sending out her supporters like Claire McCaskill and Lanny Davis to either slam Bernie Sanders or slamming the questions the media has about her private server and emails. Bernie won't directly slam her or any other opponent because as he says, it's not about him or the other candidates, it's about the people who only want a fair shake. He speaks to the people, not at them or down to them. People feel like Bernie is one of them and he speaks about their problems and has a plan of how to fix it. You don't feel like he is just saying what he thinks people want to hear, he is just genuine, not pandering. I got a kick out of msnbc last night, Lawrence O'Donnell actually who posed the question "who would Sen. Elizabeth Warren support" then quoted what she said, that she "agrees with everything Bernie is saying...." as if Bernie had to go out and 'beg" for her support, he's already got it basically...lol.


Bernie says what I want to hear, so does O'Malley, mostly so does Hillary.

Bernie said "If TPP was such a good deal for America, the administration should have the courage to show the American people exactly what is in this deal, instead of keeping the content of the TPP a secret."

I call that a cheap shot slamming Obama and his entire current administration unfairly as cowards. Obama nor his administration imposed that secrecy clause in the TPP negotiation agreement.

Bernie has no fighting a clean fight accolades in my book.


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:arrow: I wouldn't be at all surprised if it happened that Bernie gets the nomination at all.


I would, sadly, because there's just too much big money involved and the establishment, including the media, are going to go out of their way to spread fear and propaganda against him and the people will bite.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:50 pm 
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Bernie draws another huge crowd. This time up to 10,000 or more in Madison, WI.

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/07/01/ ... nders.html

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Bernie draws another huge crowd. This time up to 10,000 or more in Madison, WI.

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/07/01/ ... nders.html

Come to Spokane Bernie! Pretty please with ice cream and sprinkles on top!

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:24 am 
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Last night Lawrence O'Donnell said Sanders is now running 3rd in the Democratic polls behind Joe Biden, who hasn't even announced his candidacy. :?

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CNN reports on and mocks Bernie crowds. He goes to "liberal bastions" and "going where liberalism is." Bernie is just "a guilt free snack" but don't worry, he won't be the nominee.

Now let's talk about Hillary...She has to be careful not to stump "Uncle Fluffy" to death.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/01/politics/ ... index.html

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Perhaps one of the greatest things of a Sanders victory (though improbable) would be the on air meltdown of Sean Hannity.

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CNN reports on and mocks Bernie crowds. He goes to "liberal bastions" and "going where liberalism is." Bernie is just "a guilt free snack" but don't worry, he won't be the nominee.

Now let's talk about Hillary...She has to be careful not to stump "Uncle Fluffy" to death.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/01/politics/ ... index.html


:arrow: So much for the corporate media. Time Warner who is the parent company of CNN donated to Hillary Clinton. Hillary's been going to fundraisers to lobby for money from her Wall Street buddies, then she hand-picks her audiences afterward. Bernie's audiences just naturally flock to him. I heard this morning he had a crowd of 5,000 in MN. The great-granddaughter of Herbert Hoover that gave us the Great Depression and her hubby next to her came off as being a bit childish in their assessment of Bernie and more than a bit scared of Bernie. You could almost feel her grit her teeth and shake with every applause Bernie was getting!

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Bernie Sanders Raises $15 Million In Just Two Months

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Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), whose bid for the Democratic nomination for president has drawn the largest crowds on the campaign trail, is raking in major money as well.

His campaign reported on Thursday that it had raised $15 million over the last two months.

It is an impressive haul for a candidate few thought would be more than a socialist-minded megaphone. But Sanders has taken off, becoming the closest thing to a challenger to former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in the primaries.

Clinton continues to be a juggernaut, reportedly raising $45 million in the last three months and enjoying wide leads in public opinion polls.


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That despicable CNN panel discussion inspired me to make this. Bernie is juxtaposed with CNN

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Even in conservative Iowa he draws them in.

Bernie Sanders urges Iowa crowd of 2,500 to 'think big'

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"Our job is not to think small. It is to think big!" Sanders said, his voice booming, during a 74-minute speech in a cavernous room at the Mid-America Center in Council Bluffs. "We are the wealthiest country in the history of the world. There is nothing that we cannot accomplish if we stand together!"

One audience member, 59-year-old Council Bluffs Democrat Richard Grondek, said he didn't think Sanders had a realistic chance of winning the Iowa caucuses "until he started drawing crowds like this."

"This feels like the Obama synergy the first time he ran," Grondek said. "The crowds just kept getting bigger and bigger."

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Going forward I've decided not to contribute to the various iterations of the "Bernie can't/won't win" narrative. I had figured that he probably would not carry the nomination when he started his campaign, and I recognize that is still the probable outcome; but, at the same time, his campaign is picking up much more steam than I thought it would. Hillary is still a big mountain to climb, and in many ways she's "more presidential," but Bernie's campaign is off to a helluva start.

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I would, sadly, because there's just too much big money involved and the establishment, including the media, are going to go out of their way to spread fear and propaganda against him and the people will bite.


:arrow: I guess I have a little bit better faith in the American people. Bernie speaks about exactly what they don't like about the current policies, the big money in politics being a huge problem and the status quo. He says things that people feel but never say, he gives them a voice. Bernie has huge crossover appeal, something that Hillary Clinton doesn't have. Bernie can also bring out the base of the Democratic Party to vote. I don't think Hillary Clinton can do that, especially with surrogates like Claire McCaskill slamming the Liberal base, who Hillary will need to win the nomination.

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Bernie says what I want to hear, so does O'Malley, mostly so does Hillary.

Bernie said "If TPP was such a good deal for America, the administration should have the courage to show the American people exactly what is in this deal, instead of keeping the content of the TPP a secret."

I call that a cheap shot slamming Obama and his entire current administration unfairly as cowards. Obama nor his administration imposed that secrecy clause in the TPP negotiation agreement.

Bernie has no fighting a clean fight accolades in my book.


:arrow: He's not the only one who says that. Elizabeth Warren said it, so did Sherrod Brown and other members of Congress who were a bit taken aback by the way they were being treated when it came to the TPP.

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The point is Bernie said it. Some people say Bernie does not do this, he does do this.

I produced a quotable example. I could find the GoUnion post in the TPP thread where I was arguing with him and produce a link if requested.



How much he does this is still debatable. A comparison between the candidates could still be made.



I'm not down on Bernie, I've just not latched onto a candidate yet.


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:arrow: Last time I checked Pres. Obama was not on the ballot. Bernie does not spend his time slamming opposing candidates, as he has often said the race is not about him or the other candidates it is about people. He is against the TPP as is a number of others, he makes no bones about it. Asking the Pres of the United States to be more forthcoming about the TPP, if it is as great for workers of this country as he claims it is then Pres. Obama should give the American people the details. That is not a slam, it's just pretty good advice.

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Obama is bound by agreement to not release the work in progress details. Bernie should know that if his base of knowledge sufficient to become our President.

I think his base of knowledge enough, so I do think he does know that Obama is bound by this agreement. So for him to invoke cowardice in this case was in my eyes seen as a cheap smear tactic.


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Obama is bound by agreement to not release the work in progress details. Bernie should know that if his base of knowledge sufficient to become our President.

I think his base of knowledge enough, so I do think he does know that Obama is bound by this agreement. So for him to invoke cowardice in this case was in my eyes seen as a cheap smear tactic.


:arrow: Geez, if Pres. Obama entered into such an agreement after he preached openness and transparency, even campaigned on that, then I would have to question not only his allegiance, but maybe even his competence to involve this country into such a "trade" deal? We all have a right to question this deal. If it so good, then let us know, stop pushing for fast track, like he did, if it is still a work in progress. I don't think it is " cheap smear tactic" to question the President.

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:arrow: Geez, if Pres. Obama entered into such an agreement after he preached openness and transparency, even campaigned on that, then I would have to question not only his allegiance, but maybe even his competence to involve this country into such a "trade" deal? We all have a right to question this deal. If it so good, then let us know, stop pushing for fast track, like he did, if it is still a work in progress. I don't think it is " cheap smear tactic" to question the President.

You sound good. It's July again; I hope you don't catch another cold again.

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You sound good. It's July again; I hope you don't catch another cold again.


:arrow: :rw) Thanks Fox. I hope not either. It's the pollen allergies now with the temp being so high and the air is quite heavy. I've had to invest in more albuterol medication then I would have liked for my nebulizer.

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Bernie Sanders’ populist message draws thousands to campaign event in Portland

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Yarmouth residents Jonas Allen and Beth Brewer came with their two young boys, 6-year-old Ellis and 10-year-old Levi, to hear a candidate that Allen said is putting the middle class ahead of corporate or financial interests.

“I think that’s why he is taking off because he is the only candidate on the Republican or the Democratic side who is really taking a stand on the issue,” Allen said. “When you have the political machine behind you like the Clintons do, it is going to be a challenge. But I think his populist message is getting out there whether he gets the nomination or not.”

There were plenty of older supporters in the crowd, as well.

Among those who had arrived early enough to get front-row seats in the arena were Dale and Robyn Moreau and Rose and Jack Kennealy, all of Cape Elizabeth.

“This is the first candidate to be excited about since Eugene McCarthy,” said Dale Moreau, referring to the 1968 presidential hopeful.

“He is genuine,” said Robyn Moreau.

“And he is not naive about working in Washington,” added Rose Kennealy.

Walking away from the arena afterward, Falmouth resident Jackie Curley said every single issue that Sanders highlighted on Monday is important to her.

“For the last 20 years, we have needed somebody like him,” Curley said. “We have had many good people, but nobody like this guy.”

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:arrow: NY Times Wanted to Ignore Bernie. They Couldn’t. So They Attack Him

The last time a true Progressive ran for executive office, the mainstream corporate media simply ignored him and even shut him out of the debates. The year: 2008. The candidate: Dennis Kucinich. Eight years later, we have another true Progressive in Bernie Sanders – and this time, the corporate media finds it cannot ignore him. Case in point: the New York Times. However, rather than the saying being “If You Can’t Beat Them, Join Them”, the saying is “If You Can Beat Them, Attack Them.” When Sanders announced his candidacy back in April, the NY Times managed to make it all about Clinton, continuously emphasizing that it did not believe Sanders had any chance of winning. Sanders candidacy “won’t change the fact that Hillary Rodham Clinton is poised to win the Democratic nomination without a serious contest.” Sanders is “unlikely to mount a serious challenge to Hillary Rodham Clinton.”

Now, the Times is changing its tune a bit. Yesterday, the lead of an article in the Politics section of the paper said, “Hillary Clinton’s Team Is Wary as Bernie Sanders Finds Footing in Iowa” The paper still refused to take Sanders’ campaign seriously. Only three days earlier, the Times published an article on Sanders about how his “Revolutionary Roots Were Nurtured in ’60s Vermont.” The Times painted the portrait of Bernie as a young man, full of youthful idealism, who, at age 73, “has had a steady, non-revolutionary job for quite some time now.” Note the Times’ use of that loaded term, “revolutionary.” At worst, it calls up images of long haired radicals and counterculture street protests that boiled over into violence nearly half a century ago. At best, it implies that Sanders was a well-meaning hippie who, by this stage of life, should be waking up to certain realities – mainly, that the status quo is unlikely to change much. And why should the mainstream corporate media want it otherwise? Nowadays, it’s more about selling advertising than anything else. On one hand, that means sensationalism. On the other hand, it means going with the flow. Avoid rocking the boat. Toe the party line, whether Democrat or Republican.

It seems that the Times, as well as the rest of the corporate mainstream media, is underestimating the frustration and anger of Americans across the political and cultural spectrum – and how that is translating into demands for real, immediate change. It’s about more than economic inequality. It’s about our survival as a nation – and ultimately, as a species. A generation of unbridled, unregulated, predatory capitalism has not only brought the country to its knees, it is threatening the planet. We can’t afford to wait for “incremental change.”

The collection of clowns, freaks and delusional psychotics making up the list of GOP candidates cannot be taken seriously. On the other hand, while Hillary Clinton is intelligent and calculating, the best she is able to do is give lip service to Progressive issues – and that’s only because she’s feeling the heat from Bernie Sanders. Of all the Presidential candidates, only Bernie Sanders has had the guts to stand up and speak the ugly truth – and he’s the only one offering real, workable solutions. The American People are seeing it. The New York Times and other mainstream corporate media outlets need to start acknowledging it – or they may very well wake up one morning to find themselves irrelevant, as the Progressive Digital Media continues to grow at a record-breaking pace..

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:arrow: Every time I hear Bernie speak , I agree with everything he says. I would have liked to have heard this rally in Maine last night on C-span or somewhere, but it wasn't to be the case. Every time Bernie speaks the people who were there listening to him always come away with the same thoughts about him. He speaks to the important issues that people care about, he is genuine, people can sense that in him. It really is good to see. Finally we have a candidate who isn't afraid to speak his mind about the issues. I watched Lawrence O'Donnell's show last night, and there was a very interesting conversation going on with John Nichols of the Nation mag and Howard Dean on the panel

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The collection of clowns, freaks and delusional psychotics making up the list of GOP candidates cannot be taken seriously. On the other hand, while Hillary Clinton is intelligent and calculating, the best she is able to do is give lip service to Progressive issues – and that’s only because she’s feeling the heat from Bernie Sanders. Of all the Presidential candidates, only Bernie Sanders has had the guts to stand up and speak the ugly truth – and he’s the only one offering real, workable solutions. The American People are seeing it. The New York Times and other mainstream corporate media outlets need to start acknowledging it – or they may very well wake up one morning to find themselves irrelevant, as the Progressive Digital Media continues to grow at a record-breaking pace.


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