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Just a general thread for Climate issues

https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/ ... 2216510471
‘The Pentagon is a larger polluter than 140 countries combined’ — Speaker Pelosi and U.S. delegates at COP26 responded to a question on how the military contributes to the climate crisis
Biggest polluter is exempt
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https://twitter.com/sarahlazare/status/ ... 9161261060
In the late 90s, the US ensured military emissions were excluded from UN climate talks. That was a few years after the US won WTO patent rules that favor pharma monopolies. Now there's a climate crisis and pandemic and we are seeing the horrible consequences of these global norms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYWC6EHotL4

War Helps Fuel the Climate Crisis as U.S. Military Carbon Emissions Exceed 140+ Nations
Climate activists protested outside the U.N. climate summit in Glasgow Monday spotlighting the role of the U.S. military in fueling the climate crisis. The Costs of War project estimates the military produced around 1.2 billion metric tons of carbon emissions between 2001 and 2017, with nearly a third coming from U.S. wars overseas. But military carbon emissions have largely been exempted from international climate treaties dating back to the 1997 Kyoto Protocol after lobbying from the United States.

We go to Glasgow to speak with Ramón Mejía, anti-militarism national organizer of Grassroots Global Justice Alliance and Iraq War veteran; Erik Edstrom, Afghanistan War veteran turned climate activist; and Neta Crawford, director of the Costs of War project. “The United States military has been a mechanism of environmental destruction,” says Crawford.
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What toddler parenting taught me about global climate policy
......But here’s the problem: While these climate events are astounding, they haven’t touched the vast majority of people on this globe in discernible ways. That motivated a perverse complacency. If climate change is already here, I guess it's not that bad, too many wrongly conclude.

What’s worse, most of the folks hit hardest by climate change aren’t the ones making decisions that could halt it. Global inequality has allowed those with the means to insulate themselves from the insecurity of climate change. Those best positioned to solve it have the least incentive to do so......
I think the answer to this is found in Marianne Williamsons latest article

When the Decision to Change is the Only Survivable Option
.......The problem is more fundamental than any one individual issue. People realize that the demands of the market have replaced democracy as the guiding principles of our society. And that means, in essence, that we have chosen against democracy. Only when we face the depth of the problem, will we be able to rise to the heights from which it can truly be addressed.
but even more simple than that
Whether we’re talking about the defense industry, fossil fuel companies, Big Pharma, or any other corporate giant running roughshod over our democracy, there is a corporate matrix that regulates the government and not the other way around...........
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Motor City wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:11 pm What toddler parenting taught me about global climate policy



I think the answer to this is found in Marianne Williamsons latest article

When the Decision to Change is the Only Survivable Option



but even more simple than that
Well, yeah. It's safe to say that corporations replaced empires, but the central idea is the same. It's all about access to resources and the chasing of wealth as counted by whatever metric is the latest one developed. Really, 80% of that fabled "lesson of history" is just the realization that unchecked greed creates chaos, while those benefiting the most try to make it look good. Rinse, repeat. Round and round the wheel goes, and some times it falls off the axle.
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ZoWie wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 1:11 pm

Well, yeah. It's safe to say that corporations replaced empires, but the central idea is the same. It's all about access to resources and the chasing of wealth as counted by whatever metric is the latest one developed. Really, 80% of that fabled "lesson of history" is just the realization that unchecked greed creates chaos, while those benefiting the most try to make it look good. Rinse, repeat. Round and round the wheel goes, and some times it falls off the axle.
Yea thats even what Arnold is saying and for middle of the roaders and conservative democrats they keep with the capitulating and backing off based on their shame of displeasing those aggressive folks


https://twitter.com/Schwarzenegger/stat ... 2505336833
I can tell you from our experience in California that you can have the best environmental plans, but if you don’t have the courage to stand up to the special interests when they threaten you, sue you, and spend a fortune against you, you have nothing.
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Der Gubbernator speaks truth here. California is indeed a monument to what happens when special interests backed up by big investors throw money at the political process. We clean the result off our beaches, or scrape it off our car paint, or choke on it, or die from it.

The whole "Late, Great State of California" should be a lesson to other people tempted to give in to the great god Development. Extraction and exploitation don't create wealth, though the temporary labor opportunities can make that appearance. In the long run, they just convert resources into more money for the rich, while destroying the long term prospects for a functioning civilization.
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ZoWie wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:17 pm Der Gubbernator speaks truth here. California is indeed a monument to what happens when special interests backed up by big investors throw money at the political process. We clean the result off our beaches, or scrape it off our car paint, or choke on it, or die from it.

The whole "Late, Great State of California" should be a lesson to other people tempted to give in to the great god Development. Extraction and exploitation don't create wealth, though the temporary labor opportunities can make that appearance. In the long run, they just convert resources into more money for the rich, while destroying the long term prospects for a functioning civilization.
And for a fraction of the wealth of the richest Americans we could finance college for everybody who wants it, which would certainly result in the end of pandemics and cancer much sooner, but we cant because cons stand in the way.

They really are killing the human race. Finally when I say that I dont get screamed at, but it has been true for decades.
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Yea shes right on this, empowers companies to move the bulk of the pollution into minority and poor areas

https://twitter.com/RepRashida/status/1 ... 1442010112

As an extremely disappointing #COP26 ends without any meaningful commitments from rich countries & corporate polluters, we must reject their false solutions & "net zero" smokescreens. Frontline communities need real zero, emissions reductions & a just transition. @StopCorpAbuse
State regulators turn up heat on Stellantis over nauseating odor at Jeep plant
Michigan environmental regulators are taking “escalated enforcement” action against Stellantis for failing to adequately address a months-long nauseating odor wafting from its year-old Jeep assembly plant in Detroit.

The Michigan Department of Environment, Great Lakes and Energy (EGLE) said Thursday that it will fine Stellantis and establish a compliance plan to eliminate the stench in the area surrounding the Mack Assembly Plant on St. Jean on the city’s east side.



The state also is asking the Environmental Protection Agency to conduct air monitoring with its mobile lab.

“Escalating enforcement in a case where pollution control equipment was not installed properly, causing odors and health concerns from the community, is vital,” Chris Ethridge, field operations supervisor for EGLE’s Air Quality Division, said in a statement. “The requirements in an air permit are necessary to protect the community. If the permit is not followed, companies must be held accountable.”

The announcement comes three days after residents living near the plant filed a federal civil rights complaint against EGLE, alleging racial discrimination for allowing the automaker to increase air emissions in a predominately Black city.
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