Trump trial set for March 25

[gounion]

In the hush money election coverup trial in New York.

It’s hilarious how silent the right is. Can you see how outraged they’d be if a Dem had done such a thing?

And Joe and Glenn will try to pretend this trail isn’t even happening.

[Glennfs]

In the hush money election coverup trial in New York.

It’s hilarious how silent the right is. Can you see how outraged they’d be if a Dem had done such a thing?

And Joe and Glenn will try to pretend this trail isn’t even happening.

Fulton County hearing is on CNN been listening to it and it shows you are truly gutless.
As they are simply trying to squash any and all testimony that will hurt them through legal loopholes.
If they succeed the judge will have to choice but to rule I Willis favor.
Which of course you will claim is proof of innocence
As for this thread once again you have a personal opinion while not having the guts to have one when it's a democrat on the hot seat

[gounion]

Fulton County hearing is on CNN been listening to it and it shows you are truly gutless.
As they are simply trying to squash any and all testimony that will hurt them through legal loopholes.
If they succeed the judge will have to choice but to rule I Willis favor.
Which of course you will claim is proof of innocence
As for this thread once again you have a personal opinion while not having the guts to have one when it's a democrat on the hot seat

Wow I just said that on another thread, that you won’t accept the judge’s ruling if Willis is cleared to continue.

I note that you didn’t want to say a WORD about the Trump trial - just as I predicted.

[Glennfs]

Wow I just said that on another thread, that you won’t accept the judge’s ruling if Willis is cleared to continue.

I note that you didn’t want to say a WORD about the Trump trial - just as I predicted.

I never said that and once again you are doing exactly what Memphis said you do which is lie and put words on people's mouths which they didn't say.

So exactly why don't you have the ball to give a personal opinion about the Willis deal?

If Willis is cleared to continue or if she isn't cleared it will not be based or proof of guilt or innocence.

[gounion]

I never said that and once again you are doing exactly what Memphis said you do which is lie and put words on people's mouths which they didn't say.

So exactly why don't you have the ball to give a personal opinion about the Willis deal?

If Willis is cleared to continue or if she isn't cleared it will not be based or proof of guilt or innocence.

My personal opinion is that I don’t see what laws she broke. However, the judge will find facts, decide what should be submitted (remember that Trump throws all kinds of lies up against the wall, hoping something sticks), and I’ll accept the judge’s ruling. But you’re setting up to reject the judge’s ruling if he rules Willis can continue.

But yet again, this thread is about the Trump trial. Why are you deflecting?

[Glennfs]

My personal opinion is that I don’t see what laws she broke. However, the judge will find facts, decide what should be submitted (remember that Trump throws all kinds of lies up against the wall, hoping something sticks), and I’ll accept the judge’s ruling. But you’re setting up to reject the judge’s ruling if he rules Willis can continue.

But yet again, this thread is about the Trump trial. Why are you deflecting?

So what laws did Thomas break as you have no problem giving a personal opinion on that

[Glennfs]

In the hush money election coverup trial in New York.

It’s hilarious how silent the right is. Can you see how outraged they’d be if a Dem had done such a thing?

And Joe and Glenn will try to pretend this trail isn’t even happening.

It's not the hush money that is illegal it is the manner in which he paid her off. Personally I will be surprised if he isn't found guilty.
( that is a personal opinion the type you don't have the balls to give)

[gounion]

So what laws did Thomas break as you have no problem giving a personal opinion on that

Taking payoffs from political operatives. If he was a judge at a lower level, he wouldn’t be a judge and would probably be in prison.

[Glennfs]

Taking payoffs from political operatives. If he was a judge at a lower level, he wouldn’t be a judge and would probably be in prison.

His friend is not a political operative

[gounion]

His friend is not a political operative

Yes he is. Big dollar donor to the Federalist Society.

[ZoWie]

Ahhh yes, the Federalist Society. Republicans let them decide who gets nominated for SCOTUS. Your Supreme Court was essentially appointed by the fattest fat cat pressure group of them all.

Of the rich, by the rich, for the rich. Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?

[Glennfs]

Yes he is. Big dollar donor to the Federalist Society.

So what, are you claiming that Justice Thomas views of the constitution aren't very similar to the Federalist society and that he is only a for right conservative because someone gave him a camper.

[gounion]

So what, are you claiming that Justice Thomas views of the constitution aren't very similar to the Federalist society and that he is only a for right conservative because someone gave him a camper.

Two and the operative wants to keep Thomas in and voting as he wants.

[JoeMemphis]

So what, are you claiming that Justice Thomas views of the constitution aren't very similar to the Federalist society and that he is only a for right conservative because someone gave him a camper.

While it may not be a crime, it is certainly an ethical concern. The standard is not actual independence but the appearance of independence. So accepting large gifts from anyone but certainly non family members raises an ethical question. It would in any business. So Thomas’s acceptance of a gift from someone with strong political views may not be illegal but it certainly would cause reasonable people to question his independence.

Fanni Willis has the same ethical issue in GA. She may also have some legal issues if she profited directly or indirectly from giving a no bid contract to someone with whom she has a personal relationship.

[Glennfs]

While it may not be a crime, it is certainly an ethical concern. The standard is not actual independence but the appearance of independence. So accepting large gifts from anyone but certainly non family members raises an ethical question. It would in any business. So Thomas’s acceptance of a gift from someone with strong political views may not be illegal but it certainly would cause reasonable people to question his independence.

Fanni Willis has the same ethical issue in GA. She may also have some legal issues if she profited directly or indirectly from giving a no bid contract to someone with whom she has a personal relationship.

I heard part of the Willis hearing today. They are trying everything they can to squelch the supenas which would probably kill the case.
Because it is looking highly probable that Willis lied in her statement about when the relationship started.
Basically they are using the same legal maneuvers as Trump. But of course when he did it, it was unethical and because he is trying to get away with his crimes.
But Willis legal team is doing it because she is a victim of a race based political witch hunt and she is trying to defend the constitution and rule of law.

[JoeMemphis]

I heard part of the Willis hearing today. They are trying everything they can to squelch the supenas which would probably kill the case.
Because it is looking highly probable that Willis lied in her statement about when the relationship started.
Basically they are using the same legal maneuvers as Trump. But of course when he did it, it was unethical and because he is trying to get away with his crimes.
But Willis legal team is doing it because she is a victim of a race based political witch hunt and she is trying to defend the constitution and rule of law.

Well as a stand alone matter, Willis has the same problem that Thomas has. The judge in the Willis matter has stated that he is not only concerned with actual conflict of interest but the “appearance” of conflicts of interest. That is how it should be judged. Race has nothing to do with it.

[Toonces]

I'm not sure how they're the same, but OK.

Unless. Wait. Was Willis' actions meant to have Wade LOSE the case? Yeah, that would be a conflict of interest. But if they have the same interest, it's not a conflict.

[JoeMemphis]

I'm not sure how they're the same, but OK.

Unless. Wait. Was Willis' actions meant to have Wade LOSE the case? Yeah, that would be a conflict of interest. But if they have the same interest, it's not a conflict.

She has the same ethical responsibility to avoid conflicts of interest as Justice Thomas. And it’s a standard that extends not just to actual conflict but also the appearance of a conflict. Thomas has an issue with Harlan Crowe and Willis has an issue with a vendor/contractor with whom she has a personal relationship. Such a conflict in many private companies would get you terminated.

[Glennfs]

I'm not sure how they're the same, but OK.

Unless. Wait. Was Willis' actions meant to have Wade LOSE the case? Yeah, that would be a conflict of interest. But if they have the same interest, it's not a conflict.

The conflict is hiring your non qualified boyfriend and paying him over 650k of taxpayers money

[gounion]

The conflict is hiring your non qualified boyfriend and paying him over 650k of taxpayers money

Thank you for the Donald Trump talking points.

[Glennfs]

Thank you for the Donald Trump talking points.

Look who just lost another argument

[Toonces]

So the real concern here is for the taxpayers of Georgia and the defendant potentially getting a break. OK. It seems suspect, but OK.

[Glennfs]

So the real concern here is for the taxpayers of Georgia and the defendant potentially getting a break. OK. It seems suspect, but OK.

Miss using taxpayer money is illegal. But this is what happens when a county prosecutor steps out of their lane for personal and professional profit.

With the federal government going after Trump there was no reason for a county prosecutor to piss away over a million in taxpayer funds. Especially if there is misappropriation involved.

Now if the feds were looking the other way it would be a different story. If that were the case Willis would be a national hero.

[gounion]

Miss using taxpayer money is illegal. But this is what happens when a county prosecutor steps out of their lane for personal and professional profit.

With the federal government going after Trump there was no reason for a county prosecutor to piss away over a million in taxpayer funds. Especially if there is misappropriation involved.

Now if the feds were looking the other way it would be a different story. If that were the case Willis would be a national hero.

I didn’t watch the proceedings today. Was out and about for most of the day, getting an eye checkup (looks like it’s time for cataract surgery), and took a nap this afternoon.

But there has to be PROOF of misuse of funds. It’s NOT where you make wild accusations, like Donald Trump ALWAYS does, and then you have to prove the negative. I have seen NO proof that she misused funds. According to news accounts, there was no proof offered in court today that she misused funds.

Just more Trump smoke and mirrors, and you always lap all that up.

[Glennfs]

I didn’t watch the proceedings today. Was out and about for most of the day, getting an eye checkup (looks like it’s time for cataract surgery), and took a nap this afternoon.

But there has to be PROOF of misuse of funds. It’s NOT where you make wild accusations, like Donald Trump ALWAYS does, and then you have to prove the negative. I have seen NO proof that she misused funds. According to news accounts, there was no proof offered in court today that she misused funds.

Just more Trump smoke and mirrors, and you always lap all that up.

She hired her unqualified boyfriend and paid him over 650k.
While the other two special prosecutors made under 100k each.
She took trips with him on that money
She might have lied about when they started seeing each other
We will learn the truth after there is an investigation which you will denounce beforehand and claim to be bias if it doesn't have the results you want.

All this current hearing is doing is determining whether or not she can continue