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This is the legacy of the board cons, GOP in general. Are they spending their time:

Improving healthcare?
Jobs?
Foreign relations?


No...

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3886 ... am-sports/


Federal legislation to ban transgender women and girls from competing on sports teams for women and girls will be heard for the first time Wednesday morning, the House Committee on Education and the Workforce announced Monday.
Disgusting pigs, every last one of you. Attacking people with the LEAST amount of power.
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Of course they do their dirty work for themselves & their corrupt corporate donors that's their party in a nutshell.
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Just like they kept blacks from team sports not that long ago. The GOP just keeps repeating their greatest hits, just on some new minority to hate.
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gounion wrote: Mon Mar 06, 2023 3:34 pm Just like they kept blacks from team sports not that long ago. The GOP just keeps repeating their greatest hits, just on some new minority to hate.
Nothing like that at all and it was the democratic party keeping blacks from team sports.
This is another one of those topics where liberals have to cast out common sense. Of course a person born male and transitioned in most cases would have a decided advantage.
Which is why the NCAA has changed the rules making it virtually impossible for a transgender athlete to compete.
Let me add I completely agree it is a ridiculous thing for congress to get involved in.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Mar 06, 2023 6:21 pm Nothing like that at all and it was the democratic party keeping blacks from team sports.
This is another one of those topics where liberals have to cast out common sense. Of course a person born male and transitioned in most cases would have a decided advantage.
Which is why the NCAA has changed the rules making it virtually impossible for a transgender athlete to compete.
Let me add I completely agree it is a ridiculous thing for congress to get involved in.
Let's be clear: A speaker at CPAC basically said to kill all the transgenders - and not only did they not throw his ass out, they cheered him.

This is what you are defending. And you say you support LGBTQ+
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gounion wrote: Mon Mar 06, 2023 6:35 pm Let's be clear: A speaker at CPAC basically said to kill all the transgenders - and not only did they not throw his ass out, they cheered him.

This is what you are defending. And you say you support LGBTQ+
Link please and this thread is about transgender participants in sports
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Mar 06, 2023 6:40 pm Link please and this thread is about transgender participants in sports
https://mobile.twitter.com/ErinInTheMor ... 9930702850

I'm sure you'll defend this.
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gounion wrote: Mon Mar 06, 2023 6:43 pm https://mobile.twitter.com/ErinInTheMor ... 9930702850

I'm sure you'll defend this.
. I see you are lying once again nowhere in that statement did he say anything about killing trans people.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:30 pm . I see you are lying once again nowhere in that statement did he say anything about killing trans people.
What does the word "eradicate" mean to YOU?

I told you that you'd defend him.
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gounion wrote: Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:33 pm What does the word "eradicate" mean to YOU?

I told you that you'd defend him.
It means deport or execute.
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gounion wrote: Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:33 pm What does the word "eradicate" mean to YOU?

I told you that you'd defend him.
He was talking about eradicating them from team sports. Which is the topic of this thread.
He was not talking about killing anyone.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:23 pm He was talking about eradicating them from team sports. Which is the topic of this thread.
He was not talking about killing anyone.
No, he was talking about eradicating them from our nation. But go ahead, keep defending him.
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gounion wrote: Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:25 pm No, he was talking about eradicating them from our nation. But go ahead, keep defending him.

No he was not.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Mar 06, 2023 6:21 pm Nothing like that at all and it was the democratic party keeping blacks from team sports.
No, it was largely the owners and managers of professional sports that did that - refused to let Jackie Robinson play for the Dodgers, etc.
This is another one of those topics where liberals have to cast out common sense. Of course a person born male and transitioned in most cases would have a decided advantage.
Depends on the sport.

I'll repeat my position - if the sports leagues are willing to admit trans players, I don't think legislators should get involved, it's a decision for the league and the teams.

I believe below you are saying the same thing. This is a decision for sports leagues to make, not politicians.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Mar 06, 2023 6:21 pm Nothing like that at all and it was the democratic party keeping blacks from team sports.
This is another one of those topics where liberals have to cast out common sense. Of course a person born male and transitioned in most cases would have a decided advantage.
Which is why the NCAA has changed the rules making it virtually impossible for a transgender athlete to compete.
Let me add I completely agree it is a ridiculous thing for congress to get involved in.
It was JFK that forced the owner of the Washington Redskins to hire black players.

Let’s be clear: The Dems in the forties and fifties that were racists were driven out of the Democratic Party in the sixties, and the GOP opened their arms to them.
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gounion wrote: Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:31 pm It was JFK that forced the owner of the Washington Redskins to hire black players.

Let’s be clear: The Dems in the forties and fifties that were racists were driven out of the Democratic Party in the sixties, and the GOP opened their arms to them.
That is something I have never heard before.
I know they first had black players in 1962. I doubt JFK had anything ti do with it. Seems to me he had more important things on his plate than the roster of the Redskins.

You are correct the owner was a devout racist. I suspect he was tired of losing to Cleveland.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:35 pm That is something I have never heard before.
I know they first had black players in 1962. I doubt JFK had anything ti do with it. Seems to me he had more important things on his plate than the roster of the Redskins.

You are correct the owner was a devout racist. I suspect he was tired of losing to Cleveland.
You need to get your facts straight. https://www.bigblueview.com/2016/12/31/ ... n-marshall
The Redskins were considered “the team of the South” as it was the NFL’s southernmost franchise. Marshall actually “claimed” the southern states as his territorial rights. Before every game the club’s marching band would play “Dixie” as well as the team’s fight song, “Hail to the Redskins” which also had lyrics that stated “Fight for Dixie!”

Marshall was steadfast about his team’s policy on not hiring black players. He didn’t draft any nor did he make any attempts to trade for any. And he didn’t back down from the subject, either. The Washington Post wrote several articles on these facts and that the team was the only one in professional sports devoid of black athletes. This was the time that civil rights was on everyone’s tongue and changes regarding race issues were eminent. One reporter wrote that the Redskins were “the whitest and worst team in professional football.” The team colors were noted as burgundy, gold and Caucasian.

By autumn of the 1960 season Marshall’s stance had become humiliation for the nation’s capital not only with segregation but also on the field. The last winning season for the Redskins was 1955 and the club went 1-9-2 during the 1960 campaign. And soon, the Skins would be playing in a brand new stadium – a stadium built on land owned by the Department of the Interior (DOI). Something had to be done, and someone had to be the one to start the process.

That someone was Stewart Udall, President John F. Kennedy’s newly-appointed Secretary of the Interior.

The Redskins had just signed a 30-year lease to begin play at the new stadium slated for completion in October of 1961. Not only was the $24 million ballpark completely financed with public funds, but was built at Anacosta Flats; which was a part of the National Capital Parks system. Because the DOI was basically the landlord and also a government entity, they could renounce usage from any entity that practiced discrimination and unfair hiring practices.

All government buildings had defined rules that did not allow discrimination in regards to hiring employees. D.C. Stadium wasn’t any different than any other federal structure. Udall contacted President Kennedy about the quandary to address the issue to which Kennedy told him to proceed with vigor and accomplish the task. Udall was instructed to force Marshall’s hand and then he fired off a letter with the advice that his team would be in violation of the government’s new regulations.
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gounion wrote: Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:46 pm You need to get your facts straight. https://www.bigblueview.com/2016/12/31/ ... n-marshall
Interesting history
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Glennfs wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:23 am Interesting history
Yep. Different than what the right tells you.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Mar 06, 2023 6:21 pm Nothing like that at all and it was the democratic party keeping blacks from team sports.
This is another one of those topics where liberals have to cast out common sense. Of course a person born male and transitioned in most cases would have a decided advantage.
Which is why the NCAA has changed the rules making it virtually impossible for a transgender athlete to compete.
Let me add I completely agree it is a ridiculous thing for congress to get involved in.
Sigh. Glen, you should know better. That wasn’t the Democratic Party of today. That was conservatives who sided with slave owners. Why were there Republicans who supported the Civil Rights act besides, iirc, Goldwater, and fewer Democrats? It wasn’t Democrat vs Republican. It was liberal vs conservative.

Then Nixon latched onto the Southern strategy to pick up conservatives in the South pissed off due to the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act. Conservatives in the South moved into the Republican Party because the racism of Nixon et al welcomed them with open arms.

So, the so-called Party of Lincoln which is used to stake a claim which no longer exists abandoned the Black man as Reconstruction collapsed. Monied Republican interests in the North wanted to resume economic relations with Conservative Democratic wealth and property owners in the South. Jim Crow might never have existed had conservatives not been allowed to dictate policy due to a series of weak presidents and shoddy congresspeople.

I would suggest reading Jeremi Suri’s Civil War by Other Means but I know you won’t bother.

Finally, what, exactly, is the process for transgender? What hormonal treatments are involved? What impact do those treatment have on muscle mass? What is the percentage of transgender people involved in NCAA athletics?
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bird wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:39 am Sigh. Glen, you should know better. That wasn’t the Democratic Party of today. That was conservatives who sided with slave owners. Why were there Republicans who supported the Civil Rights act besides, iirc, Goldwater, and fewer Democrats? It wasn’t Democrat vs Republican. It was liberal vs conservative.

Then Nixon latched onto the Southern strategy to pick up conservatives in the South pissed off due to the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act. Conservatives in the South moved into the Republican Party because the racism of Nixon et al welcomed them with open arms.

So, the so-called Party of Lincoln which is used to stake a claim which no longer exists abandoned the Black man as Reconstruction collapsed. Monied Republican interests in the North wanted to resume economic relations with Conservative Democratic wealth and property owners in the South. Jim Crow might never have existed had conservatives not been allowed to dictate policy due to a series of weak presidents and shoddy congresspeople.

I would suggest reading Jeremi Suri’s Civil War by Other Means but I know you won’t bother.

Finally, what, exactly, is the process for transgender? What hormonal treatments are involved? What impact do those treatment have on muscle mass? What is the percentage of transgender people involved in NCAA athletics?
I wonder how many here families voted for democrats prior to say 1960. If so were they devout racist.
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Mar 08, 2023 6:05 pm I wonder how many here families voted for democrats prior to say 1960. If so were they devout racist.
Only in the south.
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Mar 08, 2023 6:05 pm I wonder how many here families voted for democrats prior to say 1960. If so were they devout racist.
Nope. Wrong again. But you are consistent.

Yes, there were racists in the Democratic Party prior to the Southern strategy which drove them to your party. They were also the Dixiecrats. They. Were. Conservatives. They were in the Democratic Party because the Democratic Party at the time of the civil war supported slaveowners and slavery because they were conservative. The makeup of the Democratic Party started to change in the early 1900’s and really changed when FDR got elected. The racist conservatives reside in the Republican Party and have since 1968. The Republican Party abandoned any pretense of actually being the party of Lincoln.

C’mon Glen. At least make an attempt at actually understanding history.
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