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Hunter Biden Charged

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Hunter Biden charged with gun felony and tax misdemeanors
https://www.axios.com/2023/06/20/hunter ... -plea-deal

Hunter Biden, the 53-year-old son of President Biden, was charged Tuesday with illegally possessing a handgun in 2018 and failure to timely file and pay taxes in 2017 and 2018.

Driving the news: Hunter has agreed to plead guilty to the two tax misdemeanors. He will also enter a probation agreement on the gun charge that, if violated, would mean prosecution for illegally possessing the firearm while being a drug user.

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I wonder if the GOP and NRA will come to Hunter's defense since, as they see it, Hunter's 2nd Amendment rights are being violated?
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He probably received what anyone else would have received which is fair. Now maybe the democratic party won't obstruct or oppose these investigations.

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Glennfs wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 8:58 am He probably received what anyone else would have received which is fair. Now maybe the democratic party won't obstruct or oppose these investigations.

https://www.axios.com/2023/05/10/house- ... den-family
From your link:
The memo presented Wednesday by House Oversight chair James Comer (R-Ky.) included no evidence that President Biden acted improperly or took any official action because of his family's business affairs.
You guys keep making this shit up. NO EVIDENCE.

This is what you guys do - just make shit up then accuse the left of covering up. Just like you did when Donald Trump said Barack Obama wasn't born in the United States, then accused the left of a coverup.
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ProfX wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 8:36 am Hunter Biden charged with gun felony and tax misdemeanors
https://www.axios.com/2023/06/20/hunter ... -plea-deal

Hunter Biden, the 53-year-old son of President Biden, was charged Tuesday with illegally possessing a handgun in 2018 and failure to timely file and pay taxes in 2017 and 2018.

Driving the news: Hunter has agreed to plead guilty to the two tax misdemeanors. He will also enter a probation agreement on the gun charge that, if violated, would mean prosecution for illegally possessing the firearm while being a drug user.

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Nobody is above the law, as it should be.
This agreement should not preclude or prevent the DOJ from continuing to investigate other allegations in Hunter or James Biden. If it does then this reeks or a coverup. Nobody is above the law as you say. So pleading to misdemeanors shouldn’t get anyone off the hook for allegations of felonies. They should continue to fully investigate those or turn them over to special counsel.

The question is why would it take 5 years to investigate a gun charge and tax evasion? Haven’t heard a good answer for that one.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 9:02 am This agreement should not preclude or prevent the DOJ from continuing to investigate other allegations in Hunter or James Biden. If it does then this reeks or a coverup. Nobody is above the law as you say. So pleading to misdemeanors shouldn’t get anyone off the hook for allegations of felonies. They should continue to fully investigate those or turn them over to special counsel.

The question is why would it take 5 years to investigate a gun charge and tax evasion? Haven’t heard a good answer for that one.
What makes you think the agreement precludes anything? Just making shit up again?

The big thing that makes it hard to "investigate" Joe Biden is that there is NO EVIDENCE. Just as there is no evidence that Barack Obama wasn't born in the USA, yet there are millions of Republicans that still believe it.
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gounion wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 9:05 am What makes you think the agreement precludes anything? Just making shit up again?

The big thing that makes it hard to "investigate" Joe Biden is that there is NO EVIDENCE. Just as there is no evidence that Barack Obama wasn't born in the USA, yet there are millions of Republicans that still believe it.
His son was paid millions from foreign countries for jobs he wasn't qualified for and for no show jobs. At times when Joe Biden had positions of power and influence.

Should that be investigated
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Glennfs wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 9:08 am His son was paid millions from foreign countries for jobs he wasn't qualified for and for no show jobs. At times when Joe Biden had positions of power and influence.

Should that be investigated
It has been. Hunter Biden may well have broken the law. There is absolutely no evidence the Joe Biden did anything wrong.

Funny how you aren't as concerned about Jared Kushner getting 2 BILLION dollars from Saudi Arabia. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Glennfs wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 9:08 am His son was paid millions from foreign countries for jobs he wasn't qualified for and for no show jobs. At times when Joe Biden had positions of power and influence.

Should that be investigated



Should we also investigate the two billion Jared Kushner received from the butchers of Saudi Arabia? Or while your god FORMER PRESIDENT 666 was supposedly "getting tough" with China by imposing tariffs they don't pay, that Ivanka managed to get a shitload of sweetheart exemptions from those tariffs?
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bengal59 wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 9:17 am Should we also investigate the two billion Jared Kushner received from the butchers of Saudi Arabia? Or while your god FORMER PRESIDENT 666 was supposedly "getting tough" with China by imposing tariffs they don't pay, that Ivanka managed to get a shitload of sweetheart exemptions from those tariffs?
I guess WE'RE on the same page!

Hey, Glenn, Bengal's right - shouldn't it be investigated what military secrets Donald Trump gave China to get them to give trademarks to him and his daughter? https://apnews.com/article/north-americ ... 3c6dd01727
The Chinese government granted 18 trademarks to companies linked to President Donald Trump and his daughter Ivanka Trump over the last two months, Chinese public records show, raising concerns about conflicts of interest in the White House.

In October, China’s Trademark Office granted provisional approval for 16 trademarks to Ivanka Trump Marks LLC, bringing to 34 the total number of marks China has greenlighted this year, according to the office’s online database. The new approvals cover Ivanka-branded fashion gear including sunglasses, handbags, shoes and jewelry, as well as beauty services and voting machines.
Why does this not concern you, Glenn?
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gounion wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 9:05 am What makes you think the agreement precludes anything? Just making shit up again?

The big thing that makes it hard to "investigate" Joe Biden is that there is NO EVIDENCE. Just as there is no evidence that Barack Obama wasn't born in the USA, yet there are millions of Republicans that still believe it.
There is evidence in the form of wire transactions from foreign entities thru multiple shell LLC’s to multiple Biden family members well over 100 which were flagged by Treasury as suspicious. Those need to be fully investigated impartially by professional investigators. Nothing in this plea deal should delay full such investigations by the DOJ nor should it preclude the DOJ or Treasury from full cooperation with legal subpoenas from Congressional oversight committees. After all, as the Prof says, no one is above the law. I agree.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 9:44 am There is evidence in the form of wire transactions from foreign entities thru multiple shell LLC’s to multiple Biden family members well over 100 which were flagged by Treasury as suspicious. Those need to be fully investigated impartially by professional investigators. Nothing in this plea deal should delay full such investigations by the DOJ nor should it preclude the DOJ or Treasury from full cooperation with legal subpoenas from Congressional oversight committees. After all, as the Prof says, no one is above the law. I agree.
Again, NO EVIDENCE AT ALL against Joe Biden.

Look, one of the most American things around is relatives using the name of their famous relative to make money. It's shameful, I'll admit. But it's LEGAL. There are NO wire transactions to Joe Biden. These ARE being investigated. And, just as the article said, there's no evidence against Joe Biden.

Too bad you weren't this concerned about family members making money off their relatives when Ivanka Trump was getting trademarks from the Chinese government while on official business for our federal government, or son-in-law Jared Kushner getting nearly 2 BILLION dollars from the Saudi government WHILE BOTH WERE IN THE EMPLOY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!

You were QUITE silent about all of that. That sounds to me like you are just interested in a partisan witch hunt, and not REALLY interested in justice or good government.
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bengal59 wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 9:17 am Should we also investigate the two billion Jared Kushner received from the butchers of Saudi Arabia? Or while your god FORMER PRESIDENT 666 was supposedly "getting tough" with China by imposing tariffs they don't pay, that Ivanka managed to get a shitload of sweetheart exemptions from those tariffs?
Yes both should be investigated. Why do believe hunter getting millions is any different from Jarod getting a billion dollar deal.
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gounion wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 9:53 am Again, NO EVIDENCE AT ALL against Joe Biden.

Look, one of the most American things around is relatives using the name of their famous relative to make money. It's shameful, I'll admit. But it's LEGAL. There are NO wire transactions to Joe Biden. These ARE being investigated. And, just as the article said, there's no evidence against Joe Biden.

Too bad you weren't this concerned about family members making money off their relatives when Ivanka Trump was getting trademarks from the Chinese government while on official business for our federal government, or son-in-law Jared Kushner getting nearly 2 BILLION dollars from the Saudi government WHILE BOTH WERE IN THE EMPLOY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!

You were QUITE silent about all of that. That sounds to me like you are just interested in a partisan witch hunt, and not REALLY interested in justice or good government.

How can you say mo evidence.
We have a powerful politician's son getting paid millions for no show jobs.
We have that same politician bragging that he caused the prosecutor investigating his son to get fired.
John Heintz son left the company when all that was going on. So we do have evidence of corruption. Without an investigation how do you determine if anything shady was happening.
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Glennfs wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:19 am How can you say mo evidence.
We have a powerful politician's son getting paid millions for no show jobs.
We have that same politician bragging that he caused the prosecutor investigating his son to get fired.
John Heintz son left the company when all that was going on. So we do have evidence of corruption. Without an investigation how do you determine if anything shady was happening.
I'll REPEAT what YOUR article said:
The memo presented Wednesday by House Oversight chair James Comer (R-Ky.) included no evidence that President Biden acted improperly or took any official action because of his family's business affairs.
That's how I can say no evidence.

This is just like Obama not being born in the USA - a idiot premise that YOU bought into!
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gounion wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:30 am I'll REPEAT what YOUR article said:



That's how I can say no evidence.

This is just like Obama not being born in the USA - a idiot premise that YOU bought into!
I did not buy into it I simply asked one question.
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Glennfs wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:46 am I did not buy into it I simply asked one question.
It was a STUPID question, wasn’t it?

Because it proved nothing. Except that you’ll buy whatever Donald Trump wants to sell you.

And you didn’t just ask the question - you put it in your signature! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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gounion wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:28 am It was a STUPID question, wasn’t it?

Because it proved nothing. Except that you’ll buy whatever Donald Trump wants to sell you.

And you didn’t just ask the question - you put it in your signature! :lol: :lol: :lol:
No it was legit. I did not know why a person from Hawaii would have a SSI number from Connecticut.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 9:02 am This agreement should not preclude or prevent the DOJ from continuing to investigate other allegations in Hunter or James Biden.
AFAIK, James Biden has made no plea agreement with any entity, so ... nothing is preventing any further investigation of him.
The question is why would it take 5 years to investigate a gun charge and tax evasion? Haven’t heard a good answer for that one.
The Pittsburgh synagogue shooter committed mass murder in 2018. He's finally being sentenced five years later. "The wheels of justice grind slow".

Seems like straw purchasing and gun fraud by consumers and sellers (who sell to people they know can't qualify or pass the background check) is pretty widespread in this country, hope they investigate people beyond just Hunter.
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Glennfs wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:31 pm No it was legit. I did not know why a person from Hawaii would have a SSI number from Connecticut.
You didn't ask a question - you made a statement, basically, that it was all fake.

But hey, you got new marching orders. All your favorite candidates say the Hunter Biden news today was a sweetheart deal, not a fair deal. So you'll be attacking it in the future.
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Glennfs wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:31 pm No it was legit. I did not know why a person from Hawaii would have a SSI number from Connecticut.
Oh an ol' chestnut.

The answer is, he didn't. :lol: :roll:

Fact Check: Obama's SSN not the same as dead man
https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news ... 875369007/
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ProfX wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:50 pm AFAIK, James Biden has made no plea agreement with any entity, so ... nothing is preventing any further investigation of him.



The Pittsburgh synagogue shooter committed mass murder in 2018. He's finally being sentenced five years later. "The wheels of justice grind slow".

Seems like straw purchasing and gun fraud by consumers and sellers (who sell to people they know can't qualify or pass the background check) is pretty widespread in this country, hope they investigate people beyond just Hunter.
Correct, Prof. This was a Trump-appointed prosecutor that was, basically operating independently from the DoJ, assigned by the Trump administration. Unlike what Trump would do, Biden and his Attorney General let all these investigations move forward.

And Joe, this prosecutor wasn't assigned to look specifically into gun and tax charges. He was investigating HUNTER BIDEN. He did his due diligence, and looked everywhere, and found what he found, and nothing more. Let's remember all the things that Kenneth Starr investigated President Clinton for, all the rabbit holes he went down, and all he found at the end of the day was a lie about a blow job.

That's really the same thing here. Joe, we KNOW that you THINK Hunter Biden is guilty of all kinds of things, but Joe, that doesn't mean he IS. Here's the deal - at the end of the day, this is all that prosecutor could find on Biden, and they made a plea deal in which Hunter plead guilty.

It's over, Joe. They didn't find anything, because there was no evidence of anything more than what they got him on. Deal in facts, not in your crazy fantasies.
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Glennfs wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 9:08 am His son was paid millions from foreign countries for jobs he wasn't qualified for and for no show jobs. At times when Joe Biden had positions of power and influence.

Should that be investigated
Jared Kushner, Ivanka Kushner were in the WH.

Hunter Biden has no part in his father’s administration.

And let us not forget requiring the Secret Service to use overpriced Trump properties when the Velveeta Vulgarian was in the UK.

Trading on a family name is meaningless. Trading on a family name while an advisor to the idiot who was in the WH is light years beyond anything done by Hunter Biden.

Demand that all the Trump’s be investigated.
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gounion wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 9:53 am Again, NO EVIDENCE AT ALL against Joe Biden.

Look, one of the most American things around is relatives using the name of their famous relative to make money. It's shameful, I'll admit. But it's LEGAL. There are NO wire transactions to Joe Biden. These ARE being investigated. And, just as the article said, there's no evidence against Joe Biden.

Too bad you weren't this concerned about family members making money off their relatives when Ivanka Trump was getting trademarks from the Chinese government while on official business for our federal government, or son-in-law Jared Kushner getting nearly 2 BILLION dollars from the Saudi government WHILE BOTH WERE IN THE EMPLOY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!

You were QUITE silent about all of that. That sounds to me like you are just interested in a partisan witch hunt, and not REALLY interested in justice or good government.
So what? There is absolutely NO reason not to investigate these suspicious transactions. None whatsoever. I makes no difference if Joe Biden is or is not involved. The transactions coming from foreign entities laundered thru multiple shell LLC’s ending up in bank accounts of Biden family members is reason enough to investigate. The actual transactions are reason enough to investigate. IMO the is sufficient question as to whether the DOJ is capable of investigating such things. After all it took 5 years to indict Hunter of two misdemeanor tax charges and 1 gun charge. So obviously somebody somewhere is dragging their feet.
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ProfX wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:50 pm AFAIK, James Biden has made no plea agreement with any entity, so ... nothing is preventing any further investigation of him.



The Pittsburgh synagogue shooter committed mass murder in 2018. He's finally being sentenced five years later. "The wheels of justice grind slow".

Seems like straw purchasing and gun fraud by consumers and sellers (who sell to people they know can't qualify or pass the background check) is pretty widespread in this country, hope they investigate people beyond just Hunter.
Funny how fast the wheels of Justice grind when the DOJ is motivated. I admit, when they want to bring slownthey can find multiple excuses to do so. In Hunters case, it’s ridiculous that it took that long.

The Pittsburg synagogue shooter was indicted, tried and sentenced in less time. Is that the standard we strive for?
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