2024 Presidential Election

[ProfX]

Ugh, RFK Jr. He's seriously replaying all Alex Jones' greatest hits. Not just an anti-vaxxer. He thinks his dad and uncle were killed in a deep state assassination. At least he doesn't think his cousin JFK Jr. is still alive after his plane accident.

He always had a voice "problem". I found him hard to listen to on the radio, though there was a time where I thought he was great on environmental issues. To be clear, I don't think disabilities like that are a reason not to vote for anyone. But it will cost him votes. I wonder how many "supporters" have ever actually heard him speak. As opposed to seeing his name.

RFK Jr. claims chemicals in the water are turning boys transgender
Democratic presidential candidate known for pushing conspiracy theories
https://www.washingtonblade.com/2023/06 ... ansgender/

Yeah, trans people exist because chemicals in the water are turning them that way. (Main problem I have with this theory is trans people have been around for centuries, long before these chemicals existed. Alex Jones' famous "it's making frogs gay!") He of course said this - where else? - on Jordan Peterson's show.

He also thinks HIV is not the cause of AIDs, seems to imply gay people got sick because they used "poppers" instead of the virus.

Oh, and Prozac is the cause of all the school shootings. And Russia acted in "good faith" in invading Ukraine. (Not all this stuff is in the above story, but they are headlines I've seen this week.)

And now Joe Rogan and Elon Musk are saying Peter Hotez, the vaccine expert, should debate RFK Jr. Hotez refuses because he doesn't want to lend his anti vax views legitimacy. RFK Jr. told Rogan that WiFi may "open the blood brain barrier" and make you vulnerable to brain cancer. Sheesh.

[ProfX]

RFK Jr. Backed by Group Connected to Top MAGA Republicans
https://www.newsweek.com/rfk-jr-backed- ... ns-1808780

[snip]

Creators of the Super PAC, however, appear to be connected to conservative Republican Representatives Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia and George Santos of New York as well as former Georgia GOP Senate candidate Herschel Walker, Rolling Stone reported on Friday, citing data compiled by OpenSecrets, a nonprofit that tracks campaign financing and lobbying.

[snip]

The Democratic presidential candidate has been praised by several MAGA conservatives, including Steve Bannon, who served as the White House strategist during the Trump administration. In April, Bannon said that Kennedy Jr. would be "an excellent choice" as former President Donald Trump's vice presidential candidate in 2024.

"Someone asked about Robert F. Kennedy and the great speech at Hillsdale (a college in Michigan where Kennedy spoke last month during a seminar attacking 'Big Pharma') and what did I think about his prospects," Bannon said during his War Room podcast at the time about why Kennedy Jr. would be a good match.

Other conservatives backing Kennedy Jr. include right-wing group Moms For Liberty that announced on Wednesday that he would be invited as a guest speaker at the group's 2023 Joyful Warriors National Summit later this month. He is expected to appear alongside Republican presidential candidates Ron DeSantis, Nikki Haley, Vivek Ramaswamy and Trump.

Kennedy Jr. has also been invited to share his views on conservative platforms such as Joe Rogan's podcast and spoke with conservative author Jordan Peterson. Twitter owner Elon Musk also hosted a town hall with Kennedy Jr. on the social media platform earlier this year.

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[gounion]

RFK Jr. Backed by Group Connected to Top MAGA Republicans
https://www.newsweek.com/rfk-jr-backed- ... ns-1808780

[snip]

Creators of the Super PAC, however, appear to be connected to conservative Republican Representatives Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia and George Santos of New York as well as former Georgia GOP Senate candidate Herschel Walker, Rolling Stone reported on Friday, citing data compiled by OpenSecrets, a nonprofit that tracks campaign financing and lobbying.

[snip]

The Democratic presidential candidate has been praised by several MAGA conservatives, including Steve Bannon, who served as the White House strategist during the Trump administration. In April, Bannon said that Kennedy Jr. would be "an excellent choice" as former President Donald Trump's vice presidential candidate in 2024.

"Someone asked about Robert F. Kennedy and the great speech at Hillsdale (a college in Michigan where Kennedy spoke last month during a seminar attacking 'Big Pharma') and what did I think about his prospects," Bannon said during his War Room podcast at the time about why Kennedy Jr. would be a good match.

Other conservatives backing Kennedy Jr. include right-wing group Moms For Liberty that announced on Wednesday that he would be invited as a guest speaker at the group's 2023 Joyful Warriors National Summit later this month. He is expected to appear alongside Republican presidential candidates Ron DeSantis, Nikki Haley, Vivek Ramaswamy and Trump.

Kennedy Jr. has also been invited to share his views on conservative platforms such as Joe Rogan's podcast and spoke with conservative author Jordan Peterson. Twitter owner Elon Musk also hosted a town hall with Kennedy Jr. on the social media platform earlier this year.

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This is what’s known as a ratfuck.

[gounion]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... publicans/

Sean Hannity had a full agenda for his show on Monday night. He had to explain away the recording of Donald Trump discussing a classified document. He needed to cast evidence-light allegations against President Biden. And, in keeping with a theme, he wanted to present Democratic presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as an increasingly dire threat to the sitting president’s renomination.

“With RFK Jr. … surging in the Democratic primary, is Biden in trouble?” Hannity asked at the top of his show, teasing what was to come for his audience. “We have details tonight.”

He never actually got to those details, perhaps because he had to devote more time to that recording than he’d intended. But The Washington Post can report categorically that the details are as follows: Kennedy is not surging in the polls — except when we’re talking about people like Sean Hannity.

*snip*

YouGov has asked Democratic primary voters how they plan to vote at least three times since then. And, each time, the results have been about the same. Biden gets between 62 percent and 67 percent of the vote. Kennedy gets 8 to 12 percent. Marianne Williamson, who also ran in 2020, gets 4 to 6 percent.

*snip*

This isn’t to say that YouGov hasn’t measured any change in Kennedy’s numbers, mind you. The pollster also asked respondents in April and in June whether they viewed him favorably. Between those two polls, the percentage of respondents who said they viewed him favorably ticked up slightly.

But that was solely a function of improvement among non-Democrats. In April, Kennedy’s net favorability (the percent who view him favorably minus those who don’t) was at plus-20 overall and slightly lower among both Democrats and Republicans. By June, though, net favorability among Republicans had jumped to plus-29, while it had fallen to plus-7 among Democrats.


That’s in part because the percentage of Democrats with strong opinions about Kennedy had shifted. The percentage of Democrats saying they had strongly favorable opinions of him fell from 20 percent to 14 percent over this period; the percentage with strongly unfavorable opinions jumped from 15 percent to 22 percent.

Kennedy gets more support against Biden from independents than he does from Democrats. In the most recent YouGov poll, Biden leads him by 63 points with members of the Democratic Party but by only 42 points with independents. Unfortunately for Kennedy, most Democratic primary voters are Democrats.

Frustratingly for Hannity, there is no Kennedy surge, and, at this point at least, there is no strong threat to Biden. It is true that, at this point in the 2016 nominating fight, Hillary Clinton had a similarly robust lead over Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.). But she was not the incumbent president, facing a potential general election challenge from one of the figures most hated by the political left. Nor was Sanders embracing right-wing platforms, media and rhetoric as he sought to build his support. Kennedy very much is — which is in part why his favorability numbers have increased among Republicans.

But, then, Hannity is not in the business of presenting reality to his audience.

For the GOP, it's all about the ratfuck. They have plenty of money laying around to do such things.

[Motor City]

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[Motor City]

Student debt, reparations and the environment: Marianne Williamson campaigns to end 'status quo'

Williamson has spent decades on stages talking to crowds and holding seminars as a spiritual leader with a “love conquers all" approach.

She told USA TODAY during a May interview she’s always been involved in charitable work and nonprofit activism during her 40-year career. She has described her work as helping people, individuals and organizations “endure and transform times of chaos.”

“But I began to see that no amount of private charity can compensate for basic lack of social justice,” she said......

....She told USA TODAY she has a long list of actions she would take on her first day in office: Cancel the Willow project, an oil drilling project in Alaska; audit the Pentagon; reschedule marijuana; lower pharmaceutical drug prices; cancel government contracts with union-busting companies and form a council of experts on everything related to childhood.

Her long-term goal centers around children and making every public school a “palace of learning and culture and the arts.”

“I want to be the children’s president,” she said.......

[Libertas]

s i g h

[bradman]

i get it. No sigh needed. He more than likely has a better heart than anyone here. It's just harder to understand.

[ap215]

Ocasio-Cortez endorses Biden’s reelection campaign, sending a strong signal of Democratic unity

NEW YORK (AP) — Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has endorsed President Joe Biden’s reelection campaign, sending a strong sign of Democratic unity from one of the party’s most liberal members.

“I think he’s done quite well, given the limitations that we have,” Ocasio-Cortez said on the “Pod Save America” podcast Thursday. “I do think that there are ebbs and flows.”

https://apnews.com/article/aoc-endorses ... 2d4fe4e2b7

[Glennfs]

Ocasio-Cortez endorses Biden’s reelection campaign, sending a strong signal of Democratic unity

NEW YORK (AP) — Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has endorsed President Joe Biden’s reelection campaign, sending a strong sign of Democratic unity from one of the party’s most liberal members.

“I think he’s done quite well, given the limitations that we have,” Ocasio-Cortez said on the “Pod Save America” podcast Thursday. “I do think that there are ebbs and flows.”

https://apnews.com/article/aoc-endorses ... 2d4fe4e2b7

But the democratic party doesn't have loyalty oaths. Fact is the democratic party is just a lot smarter than the gop on such issues.

[bird]

But the democratic party doesn't have loyalty oaths. Fact is the democratic party is just a lot smarter than the gop on such issues.

Endorsements aren’t loyalty oaths.

[Glennfs]

Endorsements aren’t loyalty oaths.

True, but we all know thar every democrat is going to endorse Biden.

[gounion]

True, but we all know thar every democrat is going to endorse Biden.

That’s what happens when you have an incumbent.

NOT the same as forcing all candidates to sign a loyalty oath to whomever wins the primary - even if they are a convicted felon.

But keep defending that.

[Glennfs]

That’s what happens when you have an incumbent.

NOT the same as forcing all candidates to sign a loyalty oath to whomever wins the primary - even if they are a convicted felon.

But keep defending that.

I believe they are trying to get Trump to endorse the candidate if it is not him.

[gounion]

I believe they are trying to get Trump to endorse the candidate if it is not him.

Why? In 2016 he signed the letter, but on stage he refused to raise his hand when asked, and later said he would only support himself.

They want to tie down Chris Christie. But let's be clear: The GOP should NOT be demanding loyalty oaths, especially since they don't mean shit to Donald Trump. The head of the RNC, Ronna McDaniel, is in Trump's pocket.

[Motor City]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU_1zuYMdJY

Firelight Chats: A MINDFUL INDEPENDENCE DAY

Marianne Williamson speaks with historian Harvey Kaye about the founding of this country and its meaning for today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TokNRLfrfqk
July 4th in Merrimack, New Hampshire

[bird]

True, but we all know thar every democrat is going to endorse Biden.

Are you capable of understanding that YOUR party is demanding support for whoever the nominee is including the pile of excrement known as Trump? Your party is gutless.

[JoeMemphis]

Are you capable of understanding that YOUR party is demanding support for whoever the nominee is including the pile of excrement known as Trump? Your party is gutless.

The loyalty oath, which I think is stupid, is aimed at getting Trump to commit to supporting the nominee. It wouldn’t be an issue if not for Trump. If Trump were defeated in the primaries, they are worried that he will not go quietly and would split the party. Trump already shown that he cares nothing for the GOP or for the USA. He cares first and foremost about DJT.

Those people who don’t like Trump, never Trumpers, won’t vote for him no matter who gets the nomination from the GOP. They may not vote for Biden, but they will not vote for Trump.

[gounion]

The loyalty oath, which I think is stupid, is aimed at getting Trump to commit to supporting the nominee. It wouldn’t be an issue if not for Trump. If Trump were defeated in the primaries, they are worried that he will not go quietly and would split the party. Trump already shown that he cares nothing for the GOP or for the USA. He cares first and foremost about DJT.

Those people who don’t like Trump, never Trumpers, won’t vote for him no matter who gets the nomination from the GOP. They may not vote for Biden, but they will not vote for Trump.

This is what’s funny. It’s one definition of insanity - doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. In 2016 Trump signed an oath, but when asked on stage, he refused to raise his hand and later said he wouldn’t support anyone else.

And Asa Hutchinson asked that the oath be amended to no have to support someone that is a convicted felon - the RNC refused.

This is the party you are voting for.

[bird]

The loyalty oath, which I think is stupid, is aimed at getting Trump to commit to supporting the nominee. It wouldn’t be an issue if not for Trump. If Trump were defeated in the primaries, they are worried that he will not go quietly and would split the party. Trump already shown that he cares nothing for the GOP or for the USA. He cares first and foremost about DJT.

Those people who don’t like Trump, never Trumpers, won’t vote for him no matter who gets the nomination from the GOP. They may not vote for Biden, but they will not vote for Trump.

It wouldn’t be an issue if not for Trump…well, yeah. Except it is an issue because of Trump. Nobody gets to know what would have happened.

[JoeMemphis]

It wouldn’t be an issue if not for Trump…well, yeah. Except it is an issue because of Trump. Nobody gets to know what would have happened.

True. It’s all opinion. You have yours. I have mine.

[gounion]

True. It’s all opinion. You have yours. I have mine.

Some opinions, like Bird's, are based upon facts and reason.

Others, like yours, are just based upon talking points and far-right ideology fed to you.

[Glennfs]

This is what’s funny. It’s one definition of insanity - doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. In 2016 Trump signed an oath, but when asked on stage, he refused to raise his hand and later said he wouldn’t support anyone else.

And Asa Hutchinson asked that the oath be amended to no have to support someone that is a convicted felon - the RNC refused.

This is the party you are voting for.

The party you are voting for wrote a Bill written by an organization wants to end private home ownership.
The Bill has 85 or more sponsors.

https://jayapal.house.gov/2021/04/29/th ... ntroduced/

[gounion]

The party you are voting for wrote a Bill written by an organization wants to end private home ownership.
The Bill has 85 or more sponsors.

https://jayapal.house.gov/2021/04/29/th ... ntroduced/

First, that's a lie, second, here you are deflecting for Trump yet again.

[Glennfs]

First, that's a lie, second, here you are deflecting for Trump yet again.

It is not a lie and the fact that you bkeated Trump Trump Trump proves it.
While collective hone ownership is not part of the bill. It is a tenant of the Thrive Agenda who take credit for writing the bill

Here is the Thrive Agenda tell me it isn't socialist and the bill doesn't mirror it.

https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/the-thrive-agenda/