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Aid is coming in by boat.

The main road was open for a few hours yesterday, but the police closed it again, after some kind of incident. They're not talking about what it was. The back road is too narrow for large trucks.

Most people who've been able to get a message out report the bare-bones life and safety information. Communications are still spotty at best. Ham radio groups often have emergency capability and trained communicators who can maintain life and safety traffic, in wartime conditions using emergency supplies. Organizations do hold regular drills, and there is an annual event where radio clubs take to the hills, literally, to make sure equipment still works and people still know what to do. However, there has been no reference to anything like this in the news.

Over the long haul, there is going to be an interesting logistical effort to get supplies in. Maui is, indeed, far from Waikiki, as the song goes. FEMA has experience with this kind of thing, so does the military. The planning and logistics will have to come from the top, as local resources are pretty much gone.

Current body count stands at 93, and hundreds remain unaccounted for.
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Death toll from Maui wildfire rises
.....The danger on Maui was well known. Maui County’s hazard mitigation plan updated in 2020 identified Lahaina and other West Maui communities as having frequent wildfires and several buildings at risk. The report also noted West Maui had the island’s second-highest rate of households without a vehicle and the highest rate of non-English speakers.

“This may limit the population’s ability to receive, understand and take expedient action during hazard events,” the plan stated.

Maui’s firefighting efforts may have been hampered by limited staff and equipment.

Bobby Lee, president of the Hawaii Firefighters Association, said there are a maximum of 65 county firefighters working at any given time, who are responsible for three islands: Maui, Molokai and Lanai......

Death toll from Maui wildfire reaches 93, making it the deadliest in the US in more than 100 years
Early Saturday morning, Marina Sanchez, 28, and Dustin Akiona, 31, began loading up their pickup with supplies to make another run into devastated Lahaina Town. There’s a traffic jam leading to a road block on the main road, but they’re hoping to get in “backside.”

The pair spent hundreds on batteries, flashlights, gas, first aid kits and anything else residents have asked for at Lowe’s and Home Depot.

Sanchez said community members have sent her so much money for supplies, she’s asked them to stop. She said money should be going directly to those who have lost their homes and businesses and will need the cash for rent and rebuilding.

“Because our community is so tight, there’s no hesitation,” she said. “I’m really grateful everyone is coming together.”

Sanchez and Akiona have been going house to house, trying to meet individual needs. Some of the homes still standing in Lahaina Town have been converted into makeshift donation centers.

“People know they can go there and get what they need and it’s not limited,” she said. “Such a big part of Hawaii is community.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSKpfufxrf8
Deadly Maui wildfires leave thousands of survivors homeless in Hawaii
The deadly fires on Hawaii's Maui island have destroyed or damaged hundreds of homes, leaving thousands of people having to turn to emergency shelters. CBS Los Angeles reporter Rudabeh Shahbazi spoke with some of the survivors on Maui about where they'll go next.
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2022 Point-in-Time Count shows slight increase in homelessness for Hawaii Island, Maui, Kauai
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Just saw an interview from a victim of the fire. I don’t know if this is right, but he said over a thousand people are on the missing list.
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That figure of 1000-1200 was being tossed around at the beginning. There were about a thousand who were unaccounted for in the chaos that resulted from the total failure of communication and transportation in the fires. It is still not known how many are dead. Nothing works. Politicians talk of massive emergency aid, but so far this is all talk.

Today's bad news is that the pollution from the fires has made much of the whole island's water supply undrinkable, and people shouldn't even water plants with it. Where they are going to get the bottled water is anyone's guess.

After Katrina, a lot of thought and money went into how we could better respond to a catastrophe in one place. We've gotten a lot better at it, but obviously when the disruption is as total as what happened in this remote part of a remote island, we're back to square one. FEMA has some very impressive emergency facilities in the CONUS, with all manner of supplies and trained people ready to respond, but that doesn't help much if there's no way to transport them.
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ZoWie wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 11:08 am That figure of 1000-1200 was being tossed around at the beginning. There were about a thousand who were unaccounted for in the chaos that resulted from the total failure of communication and transportation in the fires. It is still not known how many are dead. Nothing works. Politicians talk of massive emergency aid, but so far this is all talk.

Today's bad news is that the pollution from the fires has made much of the whole island's water supply undrinkable, and people shouldn't even water plants with it. Where they are going to get the bottled water is anyone's guess.

After Katrina, a lot of thought and money went into how we could better respond to a catastrophe in one place. We've gotten a lot better at it, but obviously when the disruption is as total as what happened in this remote part of a remote island, we're back to square one. FEMA has some very impressive emergency facilities in the CONUS, with all manner of supplies and trained people ready to respond, but that doesn't help much if there's no way to transport them.
I’m assuming the Gov is working with fema and other federal agencies to coordinate response. Sounds like immediate needs are going to require airlift capabilities for essentials and the rest of recovery will have to come from mainland via ship. Have you heard of that kind of planning or are they still trying to assess?
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Air will require drops, or that goods be transported from the international airport in Kahului on the other side of the island. There's no doubt that a limited local capability exists, as we see in the emergency shelters, but much of the real aid will have to brought in from other places, the same way you'd do a war. Just like in a war, we are dealing with a large number of displaced people with no resources at all. Probably the military will be involved.

Typically, in a real catastrophe like this one, you're on your own for the first week or so. This kind of thing is going to become much more common, since we'd all rather fight about politics on the Internet than get going on the situation we now find ourselves in with the climate.

I know that in the Puerto Rico hurricane response, a lot of it came by sea. They had an emergency op center on a barge that was towed into position. It helped that PR was in the coverage area of a massive emergency radio system that Collins Aerospace is building, and which FEMA has subscribed to. It uses the ionosphere along with repeater stations, so you don't lose the whole thing if part of it fails. Maui is almost certainly not as lucky as PR unless they've built out a lot more capability from bases in Honolulu than I suspect they have.

Basically I'll know things are on the right foot when there are large ships anchored off Lahaina and the skies are filled with helicopters.
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ZoWie wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 11:39 am Air will require drops, or that goods be transported from the international airport in Kahului on the other side of the island. There's no doubt that a limited local capability exists, as we see in the emergency shelters, but much of the real aid will have to brought in from other places, the same way you'd do a war. Just like in a war, we are dealing with a large number of displaced people with no resources at all. Probably the military will be involved.

Typically, in a real catastrophe like this one, you're on your own for the first week or so. This kind of thing is going to become much more common, since we'd all rather fight about politics on the Internet than get going on the situation we now find ourselves in with the climate.

I know that in the Puerto Rico hurricane response, a lot of it came by sea. They had an emergency op center on a barge that was towed into position. It helped that PR was in the coverage area of a massive emergency radio system that Collins Aerospace is building, and which FEMA has subscribed to. It uses the ionosphere along with repeater stations, so you don't lose the whole thing if part of it fails. Maui is almost certainly not as lucky as PR unless they've built out a lot more capability from bases in Honolulu than I suspect they have.

Basically I'll know things are on the right foot when there are large ships anchored off Lahaina and the skies are filled with helicopters.
I heard the military is ready willing and able. They are waiting on local and state government to give them the go signal. As I recall in Katrina, nothing really moved until that call was made by the Gov. Once that was done, resources started flowing. Has that call been made? I haven’t heard.
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'Many tragic stories': Hawaii governor says Maui fire death toll could double or triple
....In a video posted on social media late Sunday, Green said more than 2,700 structures were destroyed in Lahaina and an estimated value of $5.6 billion "has gone away." The Lahaina fire was one of multiple blazes that began burning Tuesday on Maui.....

....As search crews make their way through what Criswell called “extremely hazardous’’ conditions from the Lahaina fire, the agency is also grappling with finding accommodations for displaced survivors in a state with a longstanding housing shortage that has been exacerbated by the disaster.

In addition to paying for lodging at specified hotels and motels for a certain amount of time, the Federal Emergency Management Agency is working with Green on a plan to help provide survivors housing options beyond their immediate needs, Criswell said Monday at a news briefing from Hawaii.

“Whether that means longer term we bring in tiny houses or our transitional housing units to help him create the communities that he wants,’’ she said. “We're not taking anything off the table and we're going to be very creative in how we use our authorities to help build these communities and help people find a place to stay for the longer term.’’....
They are depending on a lot of firefighters who have become homeless


...Maui residents are banding together to help each other through the tragedy, trying to provide food, fuel and other resources to those in the worst-hit areas, including the hundreds of people who lost their homes.

They're finding the task complicated by law enforcement road closures and slow communication from a government some accuse of failing to adequately warn them about the fires, which has prompted the locals to create their own aid systems to provide shelter and other necessities....
The economic inequality and new technology surveillance, A.I. etc. seem to be combining to create barriers of suspicion and contempt sandwiching vulnerable people in between.
...Ever since her cousin came to tell her that four members of their family, including her 8-year-old nephew, burned to death in their car while trying to escape the blaze, Waring, 65, has been spending time with friends at Napili Park, which has become one of several crowdsourced aid depots in the beloved, nearly destroyed area of Lahaina. “I'm very, very emotional if I talk, I don’t know, I will cry," she said Sunday.....
..Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, who is of Samoan descent and lived in Hawaii for a part of his childhood, is "completely heartbroken" as the Maui wildfires continue to rage. Johnson said in a video posted Sunday on Instagram that he is in contact with relief organizations in Maui such as The Hawaii Community Foundation on the best ways to help.

"I know that, by now, all of you around the world have seen the complete destruction and devastation that has hit our Hawaiian islands – our island of Maui – and I'm completely heartbroken over this and I know all of you are too," Johnson said.
Somewhat of an omen like the maldistribution of wealth over many decades produces toxic concentrations of power and wealth and poverty that become a destabilizing force like this type of storm and mass fire, and even if wealth and power are applied in whole after the fact, can't fix the damage or reduce the danger at hand fast enough or effectively.
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I'm not sure that you can completely analyze the Lahaina disaster by class struggle, though of course you can't discount it either. It's always there. It pervades everything that happens in this country. It's like the weather. Everyone talks about it, no one does anything, or can do anything apparently, to help fix it.

A lot of the lousy emergency preparedness came from no one having the money. Some of the richest people you've heard of have large, heavily guarded enclaves on Maui, but obviously they never chipped in a few bucks for a true disaster preparedness. They got lucky, this time. All their heavily guarded ranches and pied-a-tierres were outside the rather limited area of the firestorm.

Of course, Lahaina always had the potential for a firestorm of historic proportions, but then LA has the potential for the world's worst earthquake and preparation is not what it could be here either.

I don't think anything could stop a firestorm like this, and by nature they come up instantly, almost as bad as earthquakes. There will be years of churning reports on what could have helped, but we'll have to wait until the immediate emergency is over before defining just what went wrong here that we could avoid next time, and there will always be a next time.

I think a more resilient cell phone network would be high up on the list, but that's a tough one due to the reliance on repeater sites and the underlying means by which they maintain service. It'll always be the first thing to go, yet people are told to listen for alerts on their phones. I'm sure they sounded the alarm in Lahaina, but it was already too late because the fire had compromised the system. No one heard anything.

I'm sure the power distribution system will come into question. It goes even before the cell phones do, when wind blows down the wires, and the only solution that anyone can afford is simply to turn off the power every time it gets hot and breezy. Yeah, right. Give me a break. It's clear that we need to find a better way to transmit power over long lines, which invariably come down and spark and start most of the wildland fires in places that don't get much lightning.

The only sure preventive measure that I can think of in Maui's case would be taking the word of specialists on how pollution affects world climate. Unfortunately, that would have to have happened 30 years ago when the problem was explained to us. It didn't. We responded by electing Republicans who told us it was all Chinese propaganda, don't worry about it, keep buying crap from our buddies and voting for neofascist elitists who are more concerned with the definitions of words.

It's a bit late now, with the entire Northern Hemisphere in the hottest and driest summer ever, and months of it to go.

It's even too late to say told you so. That just pisses people off worse.

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ZoWie wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2023 11:52 am I'm not sure that you can completely analyze the Lahaina disaster by class struggle, though of course you can't discount it either. It's always there. It pervades everything that happens in this country. It's like the weather. Everyone talks about it, no one does anything, or can do anything apparently, to help fix it.

A lot of the lousy emergency preparedness came from no one having the money. Some of the richest people you've heard of have large, heavily guarded enclaves on Maui, but obviously they never chipped in a few bucks for a true disaster preparedness. They got lucky, this time. All their heavily guarded ranches and pied-a-tierres were outside the rather limited area of the firestorm.

Of course, Lahaina always had the potential for a firestorm of historic proportions, but then LA has the potential for the world's worst earthquake and preparation is not what it could be here either.

I don't think anything could stop a firestorm like this, and by nature they come up instantly, almost as bad as earthquakes. There will be years of churning reports on what could have helped, but we'll have to wait until the immediate emergency is over before defining just what went wrong here that we could avoid next time, and there will always be a next time.

I think a more resilient cell phone network would be high up on the list, but that's a tough one due to the reliance on repeater sites and the underlying means by which they maintain service. It'll always be the first thing to go, yet people are told to listen for alerts on their phones. I'm sure they sounded the alarm in Lahaina, but it was already too late because the fire had compromised the system. No one heard anything.

I'm sure the power distribution system will come into question. It goes even before the cell phones do, when wind blows down the wires, and the only solution that anyone can afford is simply to turn off the power every time it gets hot and breezy. Yeah, right. Give me a break. It's clear that we need to find a better way to transmit power over long lines, which invariably come down and spark and start most of the wildland fires in places that don't get much lightning.

The only sure preventive measure that I can think of in Maui's case would be taking the word of specialists on how pollution affects world climate. Unfortunately, that would have to have happened 30 years ago when the problem was explained to us. It didn't. We responded by electing Republicans who told us it was all Chinese propaganda, don't worry about it, keep buying crap from our buddies and voting for neofascist elitists who are more concerned with the definitions of words.

It's a bit late now, with the entire Northern Hemisphere in the hottest and driest summer ever, and months of it to go.

It's even too late to say told you so. That just pisses people off worse.

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If you divide the dollar amount by the number of structures destroyed you come up with about 2.5 million per building.

If world leaders were serious about global cooling ooops stuck in the 70s I mean global warming oops stuck in the 90s I mean global climate change.

There would be one standard for the world to meet and a reasonable date for all countries to reach that standard.

As opposed to deals like the Paris Accords which is nothing more than screw the USA while places like China do what they want.

One standard for the entire world no exceptions. Do that and the American people will get behind it.
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There are plenty of places screwing up far worse than the USA. As always, you reduce complex problems to the simplistic solutions that the unscrupulous media have told you are the answer. I can't help you.

For example, take the rain forest in South America. It's essential to the climate, yet the only time we hear about it is when some science type reports that the native tribes have burned more of it down to make crop land. It's nothing to do with world trade, everything to do with neglect and re-education of the teach a man to fish variety.

The Paris Accord defined a target, which we have now reached, for when a small problem would become a large one. A lot of people promised to do better, but nobody really thought they would. It costs too much. Money is the only answer.

It was kind of useless, but it never was about screw the US. It was a feel-good exercise of a sort we've been doing since The Bomb made us conscious of our ability to destroy ourselves. We don't do anything about that either, but we sure talk a good game.

Your arch boogyman Biden speaks truth about climate response and the economic potential there for us, but we'd rather keep sucking oil out of the ever-depleting ground. It's a failure of imagination, basically.
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ZoWie wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2023 12:19 pm There are plenty of places screwing up far worse than the USA. As always, you reduce complex problems to the simplistic solutions that the unscrupulous media have told you are the answer. I can't help you.

For example, take the rain forest in South America. It's essential to the climate, yet the only time we hear about it is when some science type reports that the native tribes have burned more of it down to make crop land. It's nothing to do with world trade, everything to do with neglect and re-education of the teach a man to fish variety.

It never was about screw the US. Your arch boogyman Biden speaks truth about climate response and the economic potential there for us, but we'd rather keep sucking oil out of the ever-depleting ground. It's a failure of imagination, basically.
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China was, at the time.

It isn't now.

It has since emerged. We farmed out our means of production to them. We are basically in hock to China, and don't want to know that.

Now the US is the problem, because it's a dying nation.

Your arch fiend Biden had a couple of good ideas, but since there were his ideas, your gods on the Nooz told you to deny them.
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ZoWie wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2023 12:24 pm China was, at the time.

It isn't now.

It has since emerged. We farmed out our means of production to them. We are basically in hock to China, and don't want to know that.

Now the US is the problem, because it's a dying nation.

Your arch fiend Biden had a couple of good ideas, but since there were his ideas, your gods on the Nooz told you to deny them.

What we need to do according to progressives is form a task force then raise taxes on working people. While telling them the tax increases are really on the wealthy.
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That is BS.

It's not even worth arguing, because it is a figment of your fevered imagination.

Working people pay most of the taxes now. They don't have friends in Congress to keep the favors coming.

Why should our barely-functioning publicity LLC pay more Federal tax than General Motors?
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Glennfs wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2023 12:09 pm If you divide the dollar amount by the number of structures destroyed you come up with about 2.5 million per building.

If world leaders were serious about global cooling ooops stuck in the 70s I mean global warming oops stuck in the 90s I mean global climate change.

There would be one standard for the world to meet and a reasonable date for all countries to reach that standard.

As opposed to deals like the Paris Accords which is nothing more than screw the USA while places like China do what they want.

One standard for the entire world no exceptions. Do that and the American people will get behind it.
[bold]Odd that....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_p ... _Agreement
In 2016 China's percentage of green house gasses come in at 20.09%.
In close second is the U.S. at 17.89%.
Russia - 7.53%.
The E.U. weighs in somewhere around 4% and down.
From there the rest of the world comes in anywhere from 1% to damn near 0.

Seems to me the rest of the world is getting screwed by the 2 biggest super powers.
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> super powers

Actually I think Russia can still cause human extinction a few minutes faster than China, though the US still beats both. After all, we invented the damn thing.
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bradman wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2023 12:57 pm [bold]Odd that....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_p ... _Agreement
In 2016 China's percentage of green house gasses come in at 20.09%.
In close second is the U.S. at 17.89%.
Russia - 7.53%.
The E.U. weighs in somewhere around 4% and down.
From there the rest of the world comes in anywhere from 1% to damn near 0.

Seems to me the rest of the world is getting screwed by the 2 biggest super powers.
Which is why the Paris accords are anti American bullshit.
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That impressive building with the killer view of the Eiffel Tower on that hill in Paris is still available for international meetings. They could churn out a Paris Accord that better reflected current conditions, though it would be ignored just like the old one was.

I refuse to get lathered up about a show. That's what these conferences are. There's no teeth to it. Everyone agrees on a text that they are able to get through the process. They're theater.

Some gathering of old men in suits in a neat old building agreed to target 1.5 degrees C and called China an emerging nation, which it was before the US Republican Party sold our economy to it and now we're not third world but we can see it from here. Big fucking deal. I prefer to get lathered up about preventable catastrophes that keep happening because no one will spend the money.

Tell some burn patient who remembers mostly running screaming through the flames of the whole world seeming to blow up at once and then woke up in a hospital somewhere that the problem is that a conference of fat cats in Paris said China was an emerging nation.
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Glennfs wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2023 1:06 pm Which is why the Paris accords are anti American bullshit.
USA you cut yours China do what you want
Would it matter that for the first time since the agreement China's green house gasses have started coming down?
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Oh, if it were only as simple as climate change being the whole problem.

It's way worse than that.

It exposes all the bullshit that a dying society chooses to believe to justify its ignorance of the basics of human survival.
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Glennfs wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2023 1:06 pm Which is why the Paris accords are anti American bullshit.
USA you cut yours China do what you want
https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-ch ... -a-decade/
Analysis: China’s CO2 emissions see longest sustained drop in a decade
China’s carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions fell by an estimated 1.4% in the first three months of 2022, making it the third quarter in a row of falling emissions.

The new analysis for Carbon Brief, based on official figures and commercial data, shows that the three consecutive quarters, when seen together, represent the longest emissions decline in China for at least a decade.

Emissions peaked in summer 2021, as the government tightened policies on real estate to mitigate speculation and financial risk, before starting to fall in the third quarter last year. The fall in late 2021 and early 2022 was driven by the continued real estate slowdown and strong increases in clean energy. Starting from late March – at the very end of the period covered by this analysis – the main driver has become harsh Covid-19 control policies.
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BBC is doing its job, as usual:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66507019
'You're kind of raised to hate tourists': Maui fires fan tensions on Hawaiian island

After wildfires devastated parts of the Hawaiian island of Maui, one of the most popular tourist destinations in the US, officials warned visitors to stay away. But thousands remained and others continued to fly in, angering residents in the wake of the tragedy.

[...]

Still, in the days after the fire, the disparity between Maui residents - reeling from catastrophic loss - and the insulated tourist hotspots has been laid bare.

In one Hawaii, locals face an acute housing crisis. Many live in modest one-storey homes in neighbourhoods like Kahlui and Kihei, some in multi-family dwellings, with each family separated by a curtain or a thin plywood wall.

And working a number of jobs is common, locals told the BBC, to keep up with rising costs. Jen Alcantara shrugged off surprise that she worked for a Canadian airline in addition to a senior administrative position at Maui's hospital. "That's Hawaii," she said.
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They have been planning for this outcome all along with the understaffing and maldistribution of wealth, the inequality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy94eVvUl_4
How Colonialism Set the Stage for Maui's Destruction by Fire

The death toll from the Maui wildfires is now about 100 and is expected to continue to climb in what is now the deadliest U.S. wildfire in a century and the worst natural disaster in Hawaii's history. As recovery efforts continue, many residents are asking why Hawaii's early warning system, with about 80 alarms on the island of Maui alone, did not get activated to alert residents about the approaching flames.

We speak with Kaleikoa Kaeo, professor of Hawaiian studies at the University of Hawaii Maui College, who gives a history of colonialism in Maui and how the transformation of the island for mass tourism, such as changes to agriculture and water management practices, helped to turn the area into a tinderbox. "Our people who have lived there since time immemorial are suffering because of the consequences that have been imposed really from outside foreign forces," says Kaeo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b121aLzpOB8
Mick Fleetwood's restaurant is destroyed, but rock star will use music to help Maui heal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NIsLNdUqNo
Oprah Winfrey, Tony Dokoupil speak with Maui volunteers and survivors about recovery efforts
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Motor City wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2023 8:46 pm They have been planning for this outcome all along with the understaffing and maldistribution of wealth, the inequality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy94eVvUl_4
How Colonialism Set the Stage for Maui's Destruction by Fire




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b121aLzpOB8
Mick Fleetwood's restaurant is destroyed, but rock star will use music to help Maui heal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NIsLNdUqNo
Oprah Winfrey, Tony Dokoupil speak with Maui volunteers and survivors about recovery efforts
Fleetwoods was a cool place. One of my favorite things to do was go up there at sunset.
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