Tennessee should thank Massachusetts

[JoeMemphis]

I've been in Mississippi. It makes Louisiana look good, and that takes some doing.

I’ve been in Mississippi quite often. It has its issues but it is a nice place to live and raise a family. The cost of living isn’t thru the roof. You can still buy a house. Honestly, I would much rather live there than California or NYC. I like NYC but it’s expensive and it has a crime problem and a homeless problem that they cannot or will not control. So who would want to pay what those folks pay in taxes to live like that? You might. Thats a choice. I might choose differently.

[gounion]

I’ve been in Mississippi quite often. It has its issues but it is a nice place to live and raise a family. The cost of living isn’t thru the roof. You can still buy a house. Honestly, I would much rather live there than California or NYC. I like NYC but it’s expensive and it has a crime problem and a homeless problem that they cannot or will not control. So who would want to pay what those folks pay in taxes to live like that? You might. Thats a choice. I might choose differently.

Overpopulation is certainly a problem where people want to live. Mississippi obviously doesn’t have that problem. Real Estate prices are cheap when no one wants to live there. If you have children you want to educate, Mississippi is a place I sure wouldn’t want to live. It’s miserable, and they don’t have hardly any infrastructure. But it’s been a poor state ran by Republicans for years, and they sure haven’t turned things around.

[JoeMemphis]

Overpopulation is certainly a problem where people want to live. Mississippi obviously doesn’t have that problem. Real Estate prices are cheap when no one wants to live there. If you have children you want to educate, Mississippi is a place I sure wouldn’t want to live. It’s miserable, and they don’t have hardly any infrastructure. But it’s been a poor state ran by Republicans for years, and they sure haven’t turned things around.

Well you live where you choose and I will do the same. Where is it you live again? Who runs that state?

[gounion]

Well you live where you choose and I will do the same. Where is it you live again? Who runs that state?

And you know what? If I were a minority, LGBTQ or a woman of child-bearing years, I never would have moved here. The GOP won’t even let Democrats speak on the floor of the state House. Do you think that’s right? I live near a blue city, in a college town where the Republicans are sane and you can talk to them, and they treat the people here, Republican or Democrat, with respect, unlike what’s happening on the state level.

I moved here not because it’s a red state. I moved here for the culture and the outdoors. I have not been disappointed in that sense.

[JoeMemphis]

And you know what? If I were a minority, LGBTQ or a woman of child-bearing years, I never would have moved here. The GOP won’t even let Democrats speak on the floor of the state House. Do you think that’s right? I live near a blue city, in a college town where the Republicans are sane and you can talk to them, and they treat the people here, Republican or Democrat, with respect, unlike what’s happening on the state level.

I moved here not because it’s a red state. I moved here for the culture and the outdoors. I have not been disappointed in that sense.

And yet a number of minorities choose to move to Tennessee. A number of minorities choose to remain in Tennessee. Go figure.

[gounion]

And yet a number of minorities choose to move to Tennessee. A number of minorities choose to remain in Tennessee. Go figure.

You’re finding less are, especially since the State House ejected minority members for trying to have a voice on the House Floor.

Don’t you think ALL elected officials should be able to speak on the floor of a governing body? Or are you good with this?

[JoeMemphis]

You’re finding less are, especially since the State House ejected minority members for trying to have a voice on the House Floor.

Don’t you think ALL elected officials should be able to speak on the floor of a governing body? Or are you good with this?

Well sure I think elected officials have a right to speak. I don’t think they have a right to obstruct the proceedings and I do think they should follow the established rules of the legislative body. If you want to have a protest you should do so outside your place of work. I don’t get to do whatever I choose at work. There are rules. If I violate those rules then I should be prepared for the consequences.

[gounion]

Well sure I think elected officials have a right to speak. I don’t think they have a right to obstruct the proceedings and I do think they should follow the established rules of the legislative body. If you want to have a protest you should do so outside your place of work. I don’t get to do whatever I choose at work. There are rules. If I violate those rules then I should be prepared for the consequences.

The rules are the Dems don’t have a right to speak at all on the State House Floor. They are all gagged. That’s why the representatives - all duly elected - did what they did.

So much for the right to free speech you talk about.

And work and government are two different things, and you’re just trying to muddy the waters, and we both know it.

Isn’t it funny how you support expulsion of Democrats for protesting, but you’re in favor of Jim Jordan, who was instrumental in trying to take down our government on Jan 6th? Seems like a double standard to me.

[JoeMemphis]

The rules are the Dems don’t have a right to speak at all on the State House Floor. They are all gagged. That’s why the representatives - all duly elected - did what they did.

So much for the right to free speech you talk about.

And work and government are two different things, and you’re just trying to muddy the waters, and we both know it.

Isn’t it funny how you support expulsion of Democrats for protesting, but you’re in favor of Jim Jordan, who was instrumental in trying to take down our government on Jan 6th? Seems like a double standard to me.

I support folks following rules of order. That’s how things get done. If you don’t like those rules, then get more folks who think like you elected and change the rules or go to court and make a legal case.

I haven’t posted on Jordan. At all.

[gounion]

I support folks following rules of order. That’s how things get done. If you don’t like those rules, then get more folks who think like you elected and change the rules or go to court and make a legal case.

I haven’t posted on Jordan. At all.

Well, you sure were silent when those on January sixth didn’t do so.

Well, you vote for those who support him. Are you in favor of his plans as Speaker, to defund the DoJ and FBI, to end Social Security and Medicare, and to shut down the government?

[JoeMemphis]

Well, you sure were silent when those on January sixth didn’t do so.

Well, you vote for those who support him. Are you in favor of his plans as Speaker, to defund the DoJ and FBI, to end Social Security and Medicare, and to shut down the government?

I stated my opinion on Jan 6.

I live in Florida. Not Ohio. My rep is a Democrat.

[gounion]

I stated my opinion on Jan 6.

I live in Florida. Not Ohio. My rep is a Democrat.

You’ve never said before, that I know of, what area you are in, or what party your rep is in. Did you vote for the Democrat? You voted GOP for Senate as well as Governor, am I correct?

[JoeMemphis]

You’ve never said before, that I know of, what area you are in, or what party your rep is in. Did you vote for the Democrat? You voted GOP for Senate as well as Governor, am I correct?

What does that have to do with the living conditions in TN or MS? Very little. Have I ever in 10 years told anyone on this board who to vote for? No. Never. I don’t think I have ever asked anyone who they vote for.

I support the policies and positions I support. I speak for me. If you want to question Jim Jordan or Kevin McCarthy or Trump. Go talk to them. I don’t speak for them and I don’t agree with everything they do or say. The same can be said for Democrats. Have I ever asked you to explain some asinine statement made by Bernie Sanders or any member of the squad. Do they speak for you or are you capable of speaking for yourself?

[gounion]

What does that have to do with the living conditions in TN or MS? Very little. Have I ever in 10 years told anyone on this board who to vote for? No. Never. I don’t think I have ever asked anyone who they vote for.

I support the policies and positions I support. I speak for me. If you want to question Jim Jordan or Kevin McCarthy or Trump. Go talk to them. I don’t speak for them and I don’t agree with everything they do or say. The same can be said for Democrats. Have I ever asked you to explain some asinine statement made by Bernie Sanders or any member of the squad. Do they speak for you or are you capable of speaking for yourself?

Yeah, I didn't think you'd say if you voted for a Dem or not. You never do.

You say you support certain policies, yet you vote AGAINST those policies. You say you support abortion rights, and gay rights, yet you always vote for those who would destroy those rights. I mean, what are they doing for those policies you support? Do you think destroying the ability of regulatory agencies to regulate things will make you richer? Do you think that's pro-business?

Yet you DO seem to support what they are doing. You've said over and over that you vote your best interests. Do you think what they are doing now is in your best interests?

It's funny how you run away from reasonable questions.

[JoeMemphis]

Yeah, I didn't think you'd say if you voted for a Dem or not. You never do.

You say you support certain policies, yet you vote AGAINST those policies. You say you support abortion rights, and gay rights, yet you always vote for those who would destroy those rights. I mean, what are they doing for those policies you support? Do you think destroying the ability of regulatory agencies to regulate things will make you richer? Do you think that's pro-business?

Yet you DO seem to support what they are doing. You've said over and over that you vote your best interests. Do you think what they are doing now is in your best interests?

It's funny how you run away from reasonable questions.

I’m happy to discuss my views on certain policies. I don’t owe you an explanation for anything else. I don’t ask that of you. Now if you don’t like that you will just have to deal with it. We aren’t going to agree. Thats okay with me. Hopefully it’s okay with you. If it isn’t then that is something else you will just have to live with.

I’ve never cared who anyone on this board votes for. I have never asked them to explain that decision to me. Voting calculus involves many considerations both local and national. You clearly don’t understand how that works. If you want to make it the centerpiece of every discussion then we aren’t going to have much to talk about. It just distracts from the topic at hand.

This is a thread about Tennessee Miss and Mass and you want to turn it into a personal argument about how I vote. We’ve had this discussion. Many times.

[Glennfs]

Yeah, I didn't think you'd say if you voted for a Dem or not. You never do.

You say you support certain policies, yet you vote AGAINST those policies. You say you support abortion rights, and gay rights, yet you always vote for those who would destroy those rights. I mean, what are they doing for those policies you support? Do you think destroying the ability of regulatory agencies to regulate things will make you richer? Do you think that's pro-business?

Yet you DO seem to support what they are doing. You've said over and over that you vote your best interests. Do you think what they are doing now is in your best interests?

It's funny how you run away from reasonable questions.

You voted against the Maryland governor who was ranked perhaps the best in the nation.
Who had an approval rating of around 65pct in a state with 65 percent democrats.

Finally a person like you who never answers a question should not be asking any.
Unless that person's name is GutlessU.

[Glennfs]

And yet a number of minorities choose to move to Tennessee. A number of minorities choose to remain in Tennessee. Go figure.

Not to mention retired union executives.

[Glennfs]

You’re finding less are, especially since the State House ejected minority members for trying to have a voice on the House Floor.

Don’t you think ALL elected officials should be able to speak on the floor of a governing body? Or are you good with this?

So it is ok to bring a bullhorn to the floor and disrupt proceedings.

[ZoWie]

New York has the same problems as LA, and it's very expensive. LA though is twice is bad in daily experience of living there, and I have seen it recently in both cases and I speak from experience. New York is New York, and you get caught up in the flow. LA is just depressing. The only thing flowing is the sewage into the ocean.

In New York you don't see naked people in tents on most busy shopping streets, and they aren't shooting up some drug right in front of you (they do it elsewhere). They watch something on prime time TV besides police pursuing the kid du jour grabbing their brief TV moment.

[gounion]

So it is ok to bring a bullhorn to the floor and disrupt proceedings.

So, Democrats should just sit down and keep the gag on, right?

But it's okay for Republicans to disrupt the Congress.

[gounion]

You voted against the Maryland governor who was ranked perhaps the best in the nation.
Who had an approval rating of around 65pct in a state with 65 percent democrats.

Finally a person like you who never answers a question should not be asking any.
Unless that person's name is GutlessU.

I'm happy to state who I vote for - if you're looking at gutless, you should look to JoeMemphis. He's the one that hides his votes.

[JoeMemphis]

I'm happy to state who I vote for - if you're looking at gutless, you should look to JoeMemphis. He's the one that hides his votes.

Awwww. I don’t hide it. I just think it’s not the topic of the discussion. You want to turn every policy discussion into a Trump rant or a flame war about who someone votes for. Thats not the topic.

[ZoWie]

I really don't think about voting much, because the underlying problems are about why people vote, not who they vote for. I like to go at the problem at its roots. I DO vote, however, haven't missed an election since I was in college.

[JoeMemphis]

I really don't think about voting much, because the underlying problems are about why people vote, not who they vote for. I like to go at the problem at its roots. I DO vote, however, haven't missed an election since I was in college.

I’ve voted in every election since I turned 18 but I haven’t cast a ballot for President in the last two cycles. I voted down ballot races. I’m not into voting for the lesser of two evils.

[ZoWie]

I punted on Bush vs Gore, the Billionaire Boys' Club derby, and picked a third party candidate with a less annoying background. That in retrospect was a mistake.