These businesses say they NEED immigrant workers

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These businesses say they NEED immigrant workers

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https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/21/business ... index.html
Eddie Martin can’t build as many homes as he’d like in Texas because his contractors don’t have enough workers, particularly skilled tradespeople such as electricians, carpenters and plumbers.

This labor shortage, exacerbated by an aging workforce and growing number of retirements, means it’s more crucial than ever for the US to allow more legal immigrants into the country to bolster the ranks of the construction industry, said Martin, CEO of Tilson Custom Home Builders in Austin.

“We’re losing business. There’s no doubt,” said Martin, whose wife’s family started the company in 1932. “So many of those skilled workers are aging out. There’s nobody replacing them.”

Martin works with 300 contractors to build homes for teachers, police officers, firefighters and others in the middle class, with 500 units currently in the pipeline. But he now has to tell would-be clients that it will likely take 14 months to complete the job, instead of nine months, which prompts some of them to walk away. If the contractors could boost their workforces by a third, Tilson says he could probably build another 175 homes a year.

Martin, along with many others in the residential and commercial construction industries, have been pushing Congress for years to create a new work visa program or expand existing ones, such as the H-2B program, to enable them to hire more immigrants. Some would also like to accelerate work authorizations of asylum seekers so they can start training sooner instead of having to wait 180 days, as required by federal law.

The need is growing as the demand for housing increases and as federal infrastructure funding is injected into communities across the country — at a time when fewer young Americans are choosing construction as a career. President Joe Biden has recently pushed several initiatives to lower housing costs and increase supply, including at a campaign stop in Nevada on Tuesday.

But the toxic politics surrounding the border is currently seizing up the passage of new immigration legislation in Congress, quashing any hope of allowing more documented immigrants to build homes, apartment buildings, retail developments and infrastructure projects anytime soon.
What do you say to this, Glenn and Joe? It IS obvious that we don’t have enough workers, just look at the unemployment rate. Skilled workers are an especially sector that is problematical.

Yet you guys want to KEEP everyone from coming in.

I say the problem is two-fold, and building a wall doesn’t cut it.

First, we need training for American kids. Decades ago, our politicians decided against vocational training vs. college. When I went to school, scads of my classmates went to Vo-Tech. Now it’s not really available.

First, bring it back. Second, raise the wages for skilled workers.

Third, we need workers, period, so we need to reform our immigration to allow easier legal immigration and guest worker programs, especially for skilled workers. And stop demonizing people that want to come here to work.

They right doesn’t like this idea, because they WANT the workers - after all, nearly a tenth of Texas employees are undocumented, and the Governor and legislature of the state seems to be fine with it, as they aren’t cracking down on employers at all. They just like to keep them illegal, so that the workers can’t demand rights or even a minimum wage. Doing it this way drives ALL worker wages down, and that’s the point, isn’t it?

We need to look at the problems of our nation realistically, to solve them. We don’t need racism and demonization of people just to score political points.
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Yeah, I KNEW Joe and Glenn would run away from this thread! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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I think LA Trade-Tech College still exists. It was a community college that had vocational programs. I shot a scene in their auto shop once. The building was the size of an airplane hangar. Made lighting go a lot faster.
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We need a HUGE increase in the Building Trade Unions apprenticeship programs - these are the best way to train workers for the long term, where the companies can always have plenty of skilled workers for any project that comes down the road.
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They do not need illegal workers. They want illegal workers because they work their asses off and don't question orders.

You should see how quickly they unload a 63 foot trailer. I don't know how they do it.
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Glennfs wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 3:32 pm They do not need illegal workers. They want illegal workers because they work their asses off and don't question orders.

You should see how quickly they unload a 63 foot trailer. I don't know how they do it.
Yeah, because if they don’t, the company will turn them over to Immigration. That’s how they keep the power over them.

But there aren’t enough workers right now for the companies. That’s simply a fact.
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gounion wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 3:33 pm Yeah, because if they don’t, the company will turn them over to Immigration. That’s how they keep the power over them.

But there aren’t enough workers right now for the companies. That’s simply a fact.
Either that or we are lazy by comparison
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Glennfs wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 3:45 pm Either that or we are lazy by comparison
I told you that you hold American workers in contempt.
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gounion wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 3:47 pm I told you that you hold American workers in contempt.
I just see how much harder Hispanic people work on loading docks or replacing a roof. Those guys are absolutely machines when it comes to production.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2024 4:59 am I just see how much harder Hispanic people work on loading docks or replacing a roof. Those guys are absolutely machines when it comes to production.
So you're making the case for illegal labor. Got it.
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Why do you think the dead workers on the bridge were all from the Global South? Who the hell else is going to work all night filling potholes for shitty wages?

Give me your tired, your poor, we need the cheap labor.
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ZoWie wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:47 am Why do you think the dead workers on the bridge were all from the Global South? Who the hell else is going to work all night filling potholes for shitty wages?

Give me your tired, your poor, we need the cheap labor.
I think the contractor was charging the government prevailing wages and cheating the workers out of 65pct on it.
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