What’s going to happen to Trump Mon Mar 25 2024?

[Glennfs]

Did the Hunter deal happen in this country?

If Hunter should be pursued, why isn’t Jared’s MUCH LARGER deal being pursued?

You have quite the double standard.

Yea right, I can imagine what you would be saying if the Biden family were republican.
You do know the guy who paid 100s of thousands for Hunter's so called art is also the guy who paid his IRS fines.

[gounion]

Yea right, I can imagine what you would be saying if the Biden family were republican.
You do know the guy who paid 100s of thousands for Hunter's so called art is also the guy who paid his IRS fines.

Again, a country wanting to curry favor and can give Trump’s kid $2 billion and nothing to see here.

But somehow Hunter selling a painting means that Joe Biden is on the take.

[Toonces]

Art is subjective as is, often, it's value.

Much of the time people will buy art based on the name, because that's more of a status thing.

A painting by Adolf Hitler would fetch a higher price because of who painted it, not because of how good the painting is, which in his case would be "not good". Same with GW Bush.

It would also be the same for the child of any celebrity or other well know figure.

There is plenty of art out there that gets sold for a lot that is just (in my opinion) utter crap. There is plenty of art that is fantastic, but sells for barely more than the cost of materials.

That Hunter's art may be selling for well over what seems normal may have a completely reasonable explanation in the art world, that being that sometimes that people pay way more than you might think it is worth because of who painted it.

"That there is a Hunter Biden" instead of "That's a painting of a Golden doodle"

If someone offers you an absurd amount for one of your paintings, you'd probably take it.

The art I buy is because I just happen to like it. I have quite a bit from the same artist because I like his work. I don't really but things based on the name alone, though some names do represent a better quality.

TL;DR

Some people buy art based on name and status. The price may seem unreasonable to some, but it will be reasonable to others

This is merely perspective, and is not intended to say that this is exactly what happened. Maybe something shady did happen, but maybe it's simply another example of how the art world continues to be incomprehensible. I've not actually seen any of the art in question. Chances are it would be something I would not buy unless it was really cheap. After all, I do have limited wall space.

[Glennfs]

Art is subjective as is, often, it's value.

Much of the time people will buy art based on the name, because that's more of a status thing.

A painting by Adolf Hitler would fetch a higher price because of who painted it, not because of how good the painting is, which in his case would be "not good". Same with GW Bush.

It would also be the same for the child of any celebrity or other well know figure.

There is plenty of art out there that gets sold for a lot that is just (in my opinion) utter crap. There is plenty of art that is fantastic, but sells for barely more than the cost of materials.

That Hunter's art may be selling for well over what seems normal may have a completely reasonable explanation in the art world, that being that sometimes that people pay way more than you might think it is worth because of who painted it.

"That there is a Hunter Biden" instead of "That's a painting of a Golden doodle"

If someone offers you an absurd amount for one of your paintings, you'd probably take it.

The art I buy is because I just happen to like it. I have quite a bit from the same artist because I like his work. I don't really but things based on the name alone, though some names do represent a better quality.

TL;DR

Some people buy art based on name and status. The price may seem unreasonable to some, but it will be reasonable to others

This is merely perspective, and is not intended to say that this is exactly what happened. Maybe something shady did happen, but maybe it's simply another example of how the art world continues to be incomprehensible. I've not actually seen any of the art in question. Chances are it would be something I would not buy unless it was really cheap. After all, I do have limited wall space.

Or it could be a way of buying influence. The same guy who paid his IRS debt also bought some of his paintings for over 6 figures

[Glennfs]

Did the Hunter deal happen in this country?

If Hunter should be pursued, why isn’t Jared’s MUCH LARGER deal being pursued?

You have quite the double standard.

You are correct both the Trump family and the Biden family are in the business of selling influence. The Trump family just happens to be more successful.

[gounion]

You are correct both the Trump family and the Biden family are in the business of selling influence. The Trump family just happens to be more successful.

First, untrue. Second, always normalizing Trump, aren't you?

[Glennfs]

First, untrue. Second, always normalizing Trump, aren't you?

So it's only a crime when a republican family sells influence.

If two banks get robbed one of 1000 and the other of 100,000 aren't the perps of both robberies still bank robbers.

[gounion]

So it's only a crime when a republican family sells influence.

If two banks get robbed one of 1000 and the other of 100,000 aren't the perps of both robberies still bank robbers.

There is ZERO evidence that Joe Biden sold influence. NONE.

We have all kinds of evidence that Trump did. Constantly. As well as myriad other crimes.

[Glennfs]

There is ZERO evidence that Joe Biden sold influence. NONE.

We have all kinds of evidence that Trump did. Constantly. As well as myriad other crimes.

So those foreign entities hired James and Hunter out of kindness.

Just like our foreign enemies donated to the Clinton charity because they wanted to see world peace.

Neither ever expecting anything in return.

[gounion]

So those foreign entities hired James and Hunter out of kindness.

Just like our foreign enemies donated to the Clinton charity because they wanted to see world peace.

Neither ever expecting anything in return.

Just because Trump is nothing but transactional, you think everyone is.

You're projecting again.

[ap215]

Trump trial jury begins to take shape

Former President Donald Trump was back in court for the second day of his Manhattan criminal trial as he's accused of covering up a hush money payment to a porn star to help his 2016 presidential campaign.

Some selections made: Six jurors have been selected, and all were sworn in late Tuesday afternoon. Twelve jurors, plus several alternates, are needed before the trial can begin.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/202 ... 345493007/

[ap215]

Man lights himself on fire outside courthouse during Trump trial: reports

A man appeared to light himself on fire outside a New York City courthouse on Friday where a jury was being chosen for the criminal trial of former President Donald Trump, according to multiple reports.

The incident happened as reporters were gathered outside of the courthouse to cover Trump’s trial, CNN reported. On-air, reporter Laura Coates said it appeared that a man had set himself on fire.

https://www.wsoctv.com/news/trending/ma ... UD7LIFVDU/

[ZoWie]

Yep. Guy just self-immolated in the crowd scene outside the drumpf trial. Never a dull moment this year.

I would imagine the Nooz can't believe their luck.

In its own quiet way, this country is even scarier than the Middle East.

[Number6]

What are the odds TFG will fall asleep again in his trial. I can hear the judge asking "Will someone please wake-up Sir-Snores-a-Lot!"

[Toonces]

A man setting himself on fire should be bigger news. It's a symptom of a much larger issue.

And, no, it's not entirely because of mental health issues. When we say it's a cult, we mean that it's got all the checkboxes, including people willing to take their own life "for the cause". It's going to be like this until certain individuals no longer have influence.

[ap215]

Man Dies After Setting Himself on Fire Outside Trump Trial

Aman who set himself on fire on Friday outside the courthouse where Donald Trump's hush money trial is taking place has died, police said.

The New York City Police Department (NYPD) said the man, who was identified as Maxwell Azzarello from Florida, was declared dead by staff at a hospital in the area, according to NBC News.

https://www.newsweek.com/maxwell-azzare ... rk-1892464

[ZoWie]

The self-immolation was completely the result of conspiracy theories and their ascendancy in American politics since the coming of social media. This guy threw a whole bag of leaflets into the air before he lit himself up, and they were full of the usual racist Internet-driven ravings about those folks of color and all the bad stuff they're up to. This seems to be the major social change wrought by information and communication technology, and I don't like it.

Hell of a way to go... too much social media followed by becoming the all time burn case by your own hand.

[Number6]

So, TFG's trial begin on Monday and it's projected to last six weeks. He's tried delaying the trial, to no avail, on a couple of occasions so he needs to do something to delay the trial. I'm thinking he's going to fake an illness to disrupt the trial and then he'll use his social media account to post campaign videos and messages.

What do you think he'll try?

[gounion]

So, TFG's trial begin on Monday and it's projected to last six weeks. He's tried delaying the trial, to no avail, on a couple of occasions so he needs to do something to delay the trial. I'm thinking he's going to fake an illness to disrupt the trial and then he'll use his social media account to post campaign videos and messages.

What do you think he'll try?

Seems to me he’s pissing in the wind. He’s tried to get thousands of followers to converge on the Court like he did the Capitol on January 6th, but there was only a handful the first day, and only two or three a day since.

[Glennfs]

When Trump gets found guilty he will probably get some form of home confinement. Which will be basically meaningless as hevwill still be able to campaign and perform the duties of a former president.

The penalty will be symbolic only. I except between thr guilty verdict and sentencing the LW social media fueled by LW talk shows will be going wild with expectations of him going to prison.

I wonder what the response will be when he doesn't.

[gounion]

When Trump gets found guilty he will probably get some form of home confinement. Which will be basically meaningless as hevwill still be able to campaign and perform the duties of a former president.

The penalty will be symbolic only. I except between thr guilty verdict and sentencing the LW social media fueled by LW talk shows will be going wild with expectations of him going to prison.

I wonder what the response will be when he doesn't.

He’ll pretend to be Nelson Mandela. And you guys will tell us how mistreated Dear Leader is, won’t you?

[Glennfs]

He’ll pretend to be Nelson Mandela. And you guys will tell us how mistreated Dear Leader is, won’t you?

Again proving you aren't here for an honest discussion.

[gounion]

Again proving you aren't here for an honest discussion.

I'm not the one that says that nothing should be done to Donald Trump, no matter how horrendous his crimes.

[Glennfs]

I'm not the one that says that nothing should be done to Donald Trump, no matter how horrendous his crimes.

Once again living in the real world putting Trump in prison would just not be a wise thing to do.
Had you read the link I posted you would know that.
However in the fictional novel world you live in locking up Trump would have no unintended consequences.

Again the disruption and logistics to the prison would put an undo strain on the facility. While causing a financial burden to the state prison system.

In other words it just doesn't make sense to lick him up on any level.
He would have armed guards

He would have his meals specially prepared for him.
How would that alone be done? The kitchen would have to be closed while Trump's armed guards supervised the preparation of his meals.

His laundry would have to be done under the supervision of armed guards.

As much as you desire to see him behind bars a reasonable person would realize it just isn't feasible. Not whether or not he deserves to be locked up.
There is a big difference between believing he deserves prison and the realization that it simply won't work.

[gounion]

Once again living in the real world putting Trump in prison would just not be a wise thing to do.
Had you read the link I posted you would know that.
However in the fictional novel world you live in locking up Trump would have no unintended consequences.

Again the disruption and logistics to the prison would put an undo strain on the facility. While causing a financial burden to the state prison system.

In other words it just doesn't make sense to lick him up on any level.
He would have armed guards

He would have his meals specially prepared for him.
How would that alone be done? The kitchen would have to be closed while Trump's armed guards supervised the preparation of his meals.

His laundry would have to be done under the supervision of armed guards.

As much as you desire to see him behind bars a reasonable person would realize it just isn't feasible. Not whether or not he deserves to be locked up.
There is a big difference between believing he deserves prison and the realization that ir simply won't work.

Wow, always making excuses for Dear Leader.

Sorry that you don't believe our justice system should be blind, and everyone should be subject to it. Me? I believe it's a bedrock of our nation.

We disagree.